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The other big story today: BBC forced to admit global warming ‘static’
Watts Up With That? ^ | January 8, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 01/09/2013 11:48:38 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Forecast for warming revised downward.

BBC_forecast_revised

The UK Met Office has revised one of its forecasts for how much the world may warm in the next few years.

It says that the average temperature is likely to rise by 0.43 C by 2017 – as opposed to an earlier forecast that suggested a warming of 0.54C.

The explanation is that a new kind of computer model using different parameters has been used.

The Met Office stresses that the work is experimental and that it still stands by its longer-term projections.

These forecast significant warming over the course of this century.

The forecasts are all based on a comparison with the average global temperature over the period 1971-2000.

The earlier model had projected that the period 2012-16 would be 0.54C above that long-term average – within a range of uncertainty from 0.36-0.72C.

By contrast the new model, known as HadGEM3, gives a rise about one-fifth lower than that of 0.43C – within a range of 0.28-0.59.

This would be only slightly higher that the record year of 1998 – in which the Pacific Ocean’s El Nino effect was thought to have added more warming.

If the forecast is accurate, the result would be that the global average temperature would have remained relatively static for about two decades.

Blog suspicions

An apparent standstill in global temperatures is used by critics of efforts to tackle climate change as evidence that the threat has been exaggerated.

Climate scientists at the Met Office and other centres are involved in intense research to try to understand what is happening over the most recent period.

The most obvious explanation is natural variability – the cycles of changes in solar activity and the movements and temperatures of the oceans.

Infographic (Met Office) The forecasts are based on a comparison with the average global temperature over the period 1971-2000

A Met Office spokesman said “this definitely doesn’t mean any cooling – there’s still a long-term trend of warming compared to the 50s, 60s or 70s.

“Our forecast is still for temperatures that will be close to the record levels of the past few years.

“And because the natural variability is based on cycles, those factors are bound to change the other way at some point.”

The fact that the revised projection was posted on the Met Office website without any notice on December 24 last year has fuelled suspicions among bloggers.

However the Met Office says the data had been published in a spirit of transparency as soon as it became available from the computer that produced it.

 

Future forcings

It describes the decadal projections as part of an experimental effort launched in 2004 to fill the gap between daily weather forecasts and century-long estimates for climate change.

But this is an emerging and highly complex area of science because of the interplay of natural factors and manmade greenhouse gases at a time when a key set of temperatures – in the deep ocean – is still relatively unknown.

One aim of attempting to project the climate on this timescale is to be able to rapidly check the accuracy of the models being used.

A paper published last month in the journal Climate Dynamics, authored by scientists from the Met Office and 12 other international research centres, combined different models to produce a forecast for the next decade.

It said: “Decadal climate prediction is immature, and uncertainties in future forcings, model responses to forcings, or initialisation shocks could easily cause large errors in forecasts.”

However the paper concluded that, “in the absence of volcanic eruptions, global temperature is predicted to continue to rise, with each year from 2013 onwards having a 50 % chance of exceeding the current observed record”.

Scrutiny of Met Office forecasts and climate science generally is set to increase in the build-up to the publication of the next assessment by the UN’s Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) in September.

Source:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-20947224

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Re: that last paragraph, with the release of the IPCC AR5 leak #2 today, ya think?



TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 01/09/2013 11:48:48 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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To: SunkenCiv; Marine_Uncle; Fred Nerks; Carry_Okie; blam; Lorianne; Twotone; bigbob; NormsRevenge; ...

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MarkW says:

January 8, 2013 at 1:24 pm

It never ceases to amaze me the way cooler temperatures are always the results of natural variation, but warmer temperatures are always the result of CO2.
I never knew that all of natures variability went one way only.


2 posted on 01/09/2013 11:55:37 AM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

CAGW can clearly be modeled by a diode.


3 posted on 01/09/2013 11:57:35 AM PST by Paladin2
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To: All
More at WUWT:

December solar activity in a big slump

And:

NASA on the sun: ‘…tiny variations can have a significant effect on terrestrial climate.”

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And:

NOAA SOTC for December 2012

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(This post revised to show the final report)

Source: http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/national/2012/13

In 2012, the contiguous United States (CONUS) average annual temperature of 55.3°F was 3.3°F above the 20th century average, and was the warmest year in the 1895-2012 period of record for the nation. The 2012 annual temperature was 1.0°F warmer than the previous record warm year of 1998. Since 1895, the CONUS has observed a long-term temperature increase of about 0.13°F per decade. Precipitation averaged across the CONUS in 2012 was 26.57 inches, which is 2.57 inches below the 20th century average. Precipitation totals in 2012 ranked as the 15th driest year on record. Over the 118-year period of record, precipitation across the CONUS has increased at a rate of about 0.16 inch per decade.

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4 posted on 01/09/2013 12:03:15 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Excellent point.


5 posted on 01/09/2013 12:03:37 PM PST by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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and an earlier thread regarding USA Temperatures:

Does NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center (NCDC) keep two separate sets of climate books ...

The SOTC data gets reported (Heavily by media and the Government) shortly after the end of each month ....and before slower reporting.....and cooler station data gets reported.....( media and Government does NOT REPORT ....the complete data as agressively....

Suits the Global Warming Agenda that way.....donchaknow.

6 posted on 01/09/2013 12:09:24 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
It never ceases to amaze me the way cooler temperatures are always the results of natural variation, but warmer temperatures are always the result of CO2. I never knew that all of natures variability went one way only.

Oh, come on now.

Haven't you EVER heard of Pseudo Science. It is a well accepted science now.

Right up there with moral choices and ethical considerations do not define character.........

7 posted on 01/09/2013 12:17:44 PM PST by jongaltsr
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

In 1,000 years, you could have glaciers scraping the last liberals off Manhattan Island and the AGW crowd would say that the glaciers would be to Baltimore if it wasn’t for human-caused global warming.


8 posted on 01/09/2013 12:21:33 PM PST by dirtboy
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
So much for their BULLSTALIN that "the next generation of kids will grow up never even knowing what snow is".

Such utter crap. Right up their with Ted Danson's (now admitted lie) that the world's oceans will "be dead within 20 years" (so he was screaming in the 1980s). He says he had to make such statements to get policy to change.

Meanwhile students are told that the Communist threat was all a crackpot scare with no real threat to the American way (as we witness our nation slide into soulless socialism and a decline in the American standard of living and power in the world and lack of a functional space program etc).s oceans will

9 posted on 01/09/2013 1:00:33 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

of course they stand by their longer term predictions. By the time they are proven wrong, which they will be, they hope to have implemented CO2 controls (read tax based on a fabricated cost)


10 posted on 01/09/2013 1:10:37 PM PST by ScarletRed
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The BBC should send some of it’s reporters say to parts of Russia and Asia. They can kick the poor frozen stiff’s bodies and asked them how they are being effected by the global warming trends. If no sounds are uttered by the one being interviewed, just move along and kick another frozen body laying on the frozen ground. Repeat same line of questioning.


11 posted on 01/09/2013 1:18:45 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: dirtboy

LOL.....too damn true!


12 posted on 01/09/2013 1:27:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; ...

Thanks Ernest.


13 posted on 01/09/2013 6:37:47 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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