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Valve Software: Xi3 Piston Is Just One Game System, More Incoming.
Xbitlabs ^ | 01/09/2013 06:54 AM | Anton Shilov

Posted on 01/11/2013 12:44:25 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach

Valve to Enable Many Versions of Steam-Centered Game Systems

Valve Software, a major video game developer and the owner of Steam game distribution service, said that Xi3 Corp.’s Piston video game system, which is currently in development, will be only one of such “Steam Box” devices. More Steam-centered game systems are incoming from other makers; moreover, Valve will offer its own-brand gaming devices going forward.

Valve’s Own Steam Box Incoming

“We will come out with our own and we will sell it to consumers by ourselves. That will be a Linux box, [and] if you want to install Windows you can. We are not going to make it hard. This is not some locked box by any stretch of the imagination. We also think that a controller that has higher precision and lower latency is another interesting thing to have,” said Gabe Newell, a co-founder and chief executive officer of Valve, in an interview with The Verge web-site.

On Tuesday Xi3 Corp. announced a development stage system optimized for computer gameplay on large high-definition television monitors. Xi3's Piston is designed specifically to support both Steam and its Big Picture mode for residential and LAN party computer gaming on larger high-def screens. While the details about Xi3 Piston are scarce, it is widely believed that the device is a small form-factor fully-fledged personal computer powered by AMD’s A-series Fusion “Trinity” or “Richland” accelerated processing unit and can be equipped with up to 1TB hard disk drive. Since the unit is a pre-production one, eventually it may gain A-series Kaveri APU with more advanced AMD Radeon HD 7000-series graphics core and up to four AMD Steamroller x86 cores.

Valve did not disclose any details about its own Steam Box game device.

Good, Better, Best Steam Boxes Incoming

While Valve has made an investment into Xi3 and the two companies are jointly showcasing Piston at the Consumer Electronics Show this week, Valve stresses that Xi3 Piston will not be the only Steam Box available on the market. At least three types of Steam-centered gaming devices will be available: some will just stream video games from PCs (e.g., Nvidia Shield) or even servers, other will be tightly-controlled by Valve and will render games locally, the third breed will offer something more than just Steam games.

“The way we sort of think of it is sort of ‘Good’, ‘Better’, or ‘Best’. Good are like these very low-cost streaming solutions that you are going to see that are using Miracast or Grid. […] ‘Better’ [will] have a dedicated CPU and GPU and that is the one that is going to be controlled. […] It has been surprisingly difficult when we say to people ‘don’t put an optical media drive in there’ and they put an optical media drive in there and you are like ‘that makes it hotter, that makes it more expensive, and it makes the box bigger’. Go ahead. You can always sell the ‘Best’ box, and those are just whatever those guys want to manufacture,” explained Mr. Newell.

Even though “good, better, best” approach has its advantages, it is obvious that Valve’s and its hardware partners interests are pretty different. Valve is interested in a stable platform, which will likely be similar to Xi3’s Piston and will be tightly controlled (to what extent?) by the platform designer. Essentially, the firmly-controlled design will quickly become a commodity and there will be few opportunities for hardware makers to differentiate. As a result, many of Valve’s partners will focus on best-type Steam Boxes, which will quickly evolve into small form-factor video game PCs.

Mobile Steam Boxes Incoming

While initially Valve Software plans to address personal computer gaming with its Steam Boxes running Linux or Windows operating systems, the company is also working on mobile gaming devices.

“This [Steam Box] is called ‘Bigfoot’ internally, and we also have ‘Littlefoot’. […] Our approach [to Littlefoot] will be pretty similar. We also think there is a lot that needs to be done in the tablet and mobile space to improve input for games. I understand Apple's [approach]; all the way back in '83 when I met Jobs for the first time, he was so super anti-gaming. In one of the designs that we are building on the controller side, it has this touchpad and we are trying to figure out where that is useful. We do not want to waste people’s money by just throwing in a touchpad. Once we understand what the role is of multi-touch in these kind of applications then it is easy to say you can use your phone for it,” said the head of Valve.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: gamingdevices; hitech

1 posted on 01/11/2013 12:44:34 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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Large Image so you can see the detail.

2 posted on 01/11/2013 12:49:20 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

From the stories I get, if I could take a poll on the reasons freshmen and sophomores fail out of engineering classes, heavy gaming on Steam etc is probably 100% correlated.


3 posted on 01/11/2013 12:52:51 PM PST by Last Dakotan
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To: Last Dakotan

Well a person has to have their priorities straight. Somebody in Everquest needed killing.


4 posted on 01/11/2013 12:58:37 PM PST by BipolarBob (Happy Hunger Games! May the odds be ever in your favor.)
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Xi3 and Valve Software Show-Off Piston Video Game System [UPDATED].

Xi3 Debuts Steam-Centric Game System with AMD Fusion Inside

01/08/2013 06:01 PM] by Anton Shilov

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Xi3 Corp. has announced a development stage system optimized for computer gameplay on large high-definition television monitors. The device will be the corner stone of what will eventually become the so-called Steam Box, an affordable gaming PC specifically designed to run titles from Valve’s popular distribution service. Xi3 Piston will become available at a yet undisclosed date.

Housed in the uniquely shaped, grapefruit-size Xi3 Modular Computer chassis, this new development stage product is being showcased this week at the Consumer Electronics Show by Xi3 and Valve. Xi3's new development stage product is designed specifically to support both Steam and its Big Picture mode for residential and LAN party computer gaming on larger high-def screens.

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Box has some upgradable components

5 posted on 01/11/2013 1:04:16 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

And it already runs Linux! No need to hack it.


6 posted on 01/11/2013 1:09:07 PM PST by DYngbld (I have read the back of the Book and we WIN!!!!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

If they are able to pull of their concept of commoditizing the platform, it could be a game changer for Valve.

Both the PS3 and the Xbox both are closed platforms, supplied by a single vendor and are very limited in their hardware upgrades. If dozens of manufacturers are all cutting each others throats to produce the same basic hardware, hardware that is easily upgraded, they may be able to pull this off.

When the price point starts dropping below 300 bucks it will make moms and dads everywhere start looking at this rather than an Xbox or PS3. Especially since the games the kids are already playing on PC port directly over to it.

Cheers,

knewshound


7 posted on 01/11/2013 1:20:16 PM PST by knews_hound (Reading without commenting since 2001.)
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To: Last Dakotan

Inmy day it was the pool table....a study of angles.....


8 posted on 01/11/2013 1:21:55 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Last Dakotan

“From the stories I get, if I could take a poll on the reasons freshmen and sophomores fail out of engineering classes, heavy gaming on Steam etc is probably 100% correlated.”

Back in the ‘70s my dad warned it was the campus pinball machines. While I enjoy online gaming, as a parent, I can’t say I’m excited about this, especially since the bulk of my daughter’s Christmas money went towards Valve games. I might consider confiscation, but she knows how to use her gun.


9 posted on 01/11/2013 1:24:47 PM PST by pops88 (Geek chick standing with Breitbart for truth)
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To: knews_hound
Let me drop this excerpt here from the second link:

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With more than 50 million subscribers around the world, Steam is the digital distribution, digital rights management, multiplayer and communications/community platform from Valve Corp. Big Picture mode allows members to access and play games through Steam on any connected high-definition television display/monitor.

10 posted on 01/11/2013 1:25:17 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Thanks to Windows 8, it is now time to move PC gaming to something like this Steam Box. I buy my games on Steam now anyway and gaming is the only thing I use a PC for (at home) since I got an iPad.


11 posted on 01/11/2013 1:29:58 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Another link:

Valve reveals its modular, mini-PC, Xi3 Piston (Photos)

January 8, 2013 By: Phylicia Fletcher

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Valve's Gabe Newell made some vague comments late last year about having a part in the development of living-room friendly PC packages, and the rumor mill was flooded with speculation. Valve today gave more specifics to those claims at CES 2013 with a small device revealed by hardware developer, Xi3 Corporation.

Engadget got a first look at the neat design and capabilities of what is currently called the "Piston," a mini-PC with a heat-resistant, aluminum chassis and a 1TB hard drive. Backed by Valve, the tiny computer is meant to run on the Steam platform with Big Picture Mode and packs a presumably powerful punch with a quad-core AMD APU, although the spec details have mostly been kept under wraps. The Piston will reportedly work somewhat like normal PCs, with a modular motherboard that allows for components to be exchanged for the latest and greatest.

12 posted on 01/11/2013 1:34:00 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: pops88

Back in the ‘70s my dad warned it was the campus pinball machines.


Yup. I dropped out of college because during breaks I would play pinball and win so many games I’d have to walk away from a machine with four or five games on it. I couldn’t do it.

And the rest is history. Well, actually in my early 30’s (1982) I took a silly Cobol course for $2,000 and ten months which led to a comfortable six figure career. :-)

College. Meh.


13 posted on 01/11/2013 1:34:12 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: Bryanw92

What does a typical game cost ....on Steam?


14 posted on 01/11/2013 1:38:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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More detail:

CES 2013: The 12Gbps SSD Inside Xi3's "Steam Box" Prototype

By Wesley Fenlon on Jan. 9, 2013 at 6 a.m.

Modular computer maker Xi3 has developed an SSD capable of 12Gbps transfers for the X7 series releasing in 2013. That series serves as the template for Piston, a prototype built for Valve's Steam-centric hardware platform.

As the Consumer Electronics Show's press conference day wound to a close Monday afternoon, a press release from Xi3 Corporation shot the modular computer maker to the top of the CES hot list. The press release was vague, almost coy, announcing a development stage product "designed specifically to support both Steam and its Big Picture mode for residential and LAN party computer gaming on larger high-def screens." And at the bottom of the release, Xi3 tacked on this teaser: "Xi3 also announced today it has received an investment from Valve Corporation. Xi3's new development stage computer game system is also being showcased in Valve's booth (#25730) at CES 2013. No additional details about Xi3's new system or Valve's investment in Xi3 will be released at this time."

The implication was clear: Valve's Steam Box, an affordable computer designed to bring Steam and PC gaming into the living room, is finally coming, and Xi3 is behind it.

Turns out that's not the full story--Valve CEO Gabe Newell chatted with The Verge and made it clear that the company will release its own Linux-based Steam system, and that they're working with multiple partners to expand Steam's reach. But Xi3 definitely has something cooking that supports Steam. We talked with Xi3's Chief Marketing Officer David Politis to find out as much as we could about Piston, the codename for their in-development hardware.

Piston is exciting. Modular computing is cool. But out of everything we saw at Xi3's booth, one piece of technology stood out. It's called mSATAmax, and it's an SSD solution the company has been developing for its new computers, the X7 series, set to be released in 2013.

mSATAmax is fast. Really fast. 12 Gbps fast, or about twice the speed of a SATA III connector.

Here's the tantalizing bit: Politis intimated that mSATAmax SSDs won't necessarily be a premium upgrade, and these could very well show up in the Xi3 Steam Box. Yes, the miniature computer will still need competitive processors and graphics and RAM, but PC gamers can attest that an SSD enormously improves load times for games.

Here's a 3-inch long circuit board with NAND memory that's able to handle data transfers of 1536 megabytes per second.

mSATAmax is a big deal for the X7 system, but it's an exciting bit of technology in general. Forget Steam for a second--here's a 3-inch long circuit board with NAND memory that's able to handle data transfers of 1536 megabytes per second. For reference, that's triple the read/write speeds of the 2012 MacBook Air SSD, which is soldered onto the laptop's motherboard. And the 2012 Air's 350-450 MB speeds are, themselves, about twice as fast as the 2011 model's. The X7 series isn't guaranteed to deliver actual reads and writes at those speeds, but we're eager to see how close it comes.

Piston is derived from the X7 series and will resemble a $1000 build, though exact pricing for both the Piston prototype and the X7 computers are up in the air. Xi3's modular systems fit perfectly into the living room model--the X7 series measures only about 4.3 x 3.6 x 3.6 inches--but that tiny form factor inevitably raises the question of power. What kind of games can a 40 watt system play? Politis says the hardware is capable enough to run Crysis 2. That's an impressive bar, even if the game's running on lower settings. So how does the hardware compare to components we're more familiar with?

Xi3 develops specialty boards to suit different situations, and the X7A processor board will come in dual-core and quad-core AMD R-series APU variants. The CPUs clock up to 3.2 GHz speeds, which should work for most games--a CPU-intensive game like Civilization 5 could cause the processor to break a sweat. But what about that GPU? Remember that AMD's APUs combine both CPU and GPU onto one chip, just like Intel's Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge platforms.

The fastest GPU Xi3 lists for its X7 series, the HD 7660G, puts up respectable numbers on benchmarking site Notebook Check. They write the 7660G's performance is "significantly better than the Intel HD Graphics 4000 in the Ivy Bridge Quad-Core models." On medium settings, it delivered framerates in the teens or 20s for games like Far Cry 3 and Assassin's Creed 3, but it topped 30 frames per second in Borderlands 2, Sleeping Dogs, and Dishonored. In a number of cases, it could even stay about 30 fps on high settings (mostly in less graphically intensive games like Torchlight 2).

Politis hinted that Xi3 has at least one more hardware secret about the X7 series up its sleeve to reveal in the next few months.

It's hard to imagine a console competitor selling for $1000, and the fact is few PC gamers will be satisfied with what a 40 watt computer can dish out. But the X7 is at least on paper a capable little box; it offers 4 or 8 gigabytes of RAM, four USB 3.0 ports, gigabit Ethernet and a combined DisplayPort/HDMI out port. With mSATA's speed, Piston should be able to play Steam's entire library of indie games with ease. And Politis hinted that Xi3 has at least one more hardware secret about the X7 series up its sleeve to reveal in the next few months. If it's half as intriguing as mSATAmax, we say they're putting that investment from Valve to great use.

15 posted on 01/11/2013 1:47:03 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Usually, the same as it costs in the store. I like it for the convenience.


16 posted on 01/11/2013 1:47:39 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: ShadowAce; Marine_Uncle; SunkenCiv; blam; NormsRevenge; SierraWasp

If this takes off,....what happens to the Game console makers like, ...M$,Sony, ninento, nvidia......???


17 posted on 01/11/2013 1:50:05 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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Another link:

It Begins: Valve And Xi3 Team For ‘Piston’ Steam Box

By Nathan Grayson on January 8th, 2013 at 9:00 am. Tweet this

Expect EA to announce a competing Origin-branded kiwi tomorrow.

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Hey everyone, you’re never going to believe this. The Steam Box? It’s totally real. I know, right? I mean, a series of totally unsubstantiated rumors from Valve alphabeard Gabe Newell was dubious at best, and Big Picture mode spent so much time in development for no reason whatsoever. But somehow – completely unexpectedly – we’re now here, watching Valve and mini-PC maker Xi3 team up to reveal “an integrated system that exceeds the capabilities of leading game consoles, but can fit in the palm of your hand.” Xi3 also compared the device’s physical size to that of a grapefruit, meaning that this is yet another mind-blowing technological advancement I’ll have to worry about accidentally eating.

Beyond those (subject to change) physical specs and full Steam integration, details are depressingly scarce at the moment. Fortunately, an in-development version of the magical space grapefruit will be squirting its Valve-flavored juices into show-goers’ eyes at CES this week, so hopefully we’ll have more specifics soon. Until then, though, here’s Xi3 being really pleased with themselves.

“Today marks the beginning of a new era for Xi3,” said Jason A. Sullivan, founder, President and CEO of Xi3. “This new development stage product will allow users to take full-advantage of their large high-definition TV displays for an amazing computer game experience. As a result, this new system could provide access to thousands of gaming titles through an integrated system that exceeds the capabilities of leading game consoles, but can fit in the palm of your hand.”

It’s also worth noting that Valve’s also made a full-blown investment in Xi3, so this isn’t just some throwaway third-party project. Or at least, it certainly doesn’t seem that way. Meanwhile, a Linux-powered Steam box was allegedly revealed in Germany yesterday, but there’s no telling if the two are one in the same.

So then, the plot thickens, and CES continues to be a treasure trove of interesting (if not necessarily glamorous) windows into the future of PC gaming. The most obvious message here? There are a lot of powerful people attempting to push PC gaming into the living room. Will it work? Will it become the new standard? And, if so, how will the change of scenery affect the focus of the games people choose to develop for our most marvellous of mother platforms? Seems like we’ll get answers to these questions sooner rather than later. Personally, so long as I get to keep my thriving mod and indie scenes, I’m fine with playing anywhere – office, bedroom, living room, in a box, with a fox, whatever.

Actually, that brings us to the rather interesting question of what defines PC gaming as a whole and whether or not this type of thing presents a threat to that essence. So I’m curious: what specific thing(s) makes PC gaming for you, and are you worried that wading into “enemy” (read: console) territory could extinguish that?

18 posted on 01/11/2013 1:58:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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From the comments....post #18:

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Shockeh says:

Sorry to say, but this is just nonsense. A PC is a Personal Computer. That’s all it ever was. You have an attachment to a vision created by AMD, Intel, Nvidia and the rest who had a vested interest in a gated, elite community that saw themselves as ‘above’ the console gaming masses (even RPS at times have slipped into this, although usually with enough good humour to recognise it.)

This, whether it succeeds or fails, is a fantastic thing because it blurs those boundaries that we didn’t want or need – The sooner we see these gated communities created by console platforms (PSN, XBL, all the rest) die a death, the better, and the only way it’ll happen in reality is if one of those environments adopts the possibility of being ‘open’ – If I had to pick one of the existing ones, Steam and Valve are our best bet, and even they might screw it up yet.

Is the Gaming Singularity here? No. But this is potentially a great step toward it, if handled well.

19 posted on 01/11/2013 2:14:56 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Wait for Steam's Holiday sales. Games are marked down 50-90% which is why Steam is so popular. For instance, the last Christmas sale had most of THQ’s collection for $24; which would of cost regularly close to $400 (And that is just one example).

Steam also has daily deals as well as Bi-weekly deals so be patient for games you want.

20 posted on 01/11/2013 2:18:36 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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lcy says:

An Xbox? It’s personal – no doubt. It’s a computer, again, no problem.

It’s not ‘yours’ though. It will only ever compute what someone other than you (in this case, Microsoft) has allowed it to compute. Just like an iPad.

Admittedly, if you don’t care, that might seem a pointless distinction, but to those of us who use computers as tools in this way, it makes all the difference in the world. The ability to type in a unique program and then just run the damn thing, in the full knowledge that it will do whatever you tell it to, really is quite amazing.

21 posted on 01/11/2013 2:18:45 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The nice thing about Steam is that if you have a catastrophic crash and have to get a new hard drive or PC, ALL of your games can be re-downloaded for free, with the latest patches and DLC, and all of your personal settings are restored to your new unit.


22 posted on 01/11/2013 2:29:12 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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To: RandallFlagg

So we have “Gaming via the Cloud”?


23 posted on 01/11/2013 2:33:44 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I have the Linux Steam Beta... but only 1 choice for Free to Play so far, and I’m not interested in “Portal 2” ... :p

I am hoping that this does ‘pick up steam’, pun intended ;)

(BTW, I have been able to get World of Warcraft to work almost flawlessly.. the only setback is the water.. have to set it on fair or lower to be able to see it (lack of Shader 3 tech)). After ‘fixing’ the wow.exe, it is fully utilizing all 6 cores (AMD) and 16 gig of ram, plus my 2 gig of vid ram)... getting a nice FPS of 100 ;)


24 posted on 01/11/2013 2:36:37 PM PST by Bikkuri (Hope for Conservative push in the next 2-4 years..........)
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http://thessdreview.com/tag/msatamax/

Browsing all articles tagged with mSATAmax - The SSD Review.

25 posted on 01/11/2013 2:39:30 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Not exactly.
It just saves all gaming data so you won’t have to re-buy what you lost.
I have so many Steam games that after I built this massive gaming PC, it took about three days to re-acquire all of my games back from Steam. But I did get them all back for free.
Also, no CDs to get all scratched up.
You also are limited to (I think -unless they’ve changed it) using two PCs for the same account. Security reasons.


26 posted on 01/11/2013 2:41:29 PM PST by RandallFlagg ("Liberalism is about as progressive as CANCER" -Alfonzo Rachel)
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More from link at #25:

Xi3 Introduces mSATAmax 12Gb/s SSD With 1TB/s Performance Into Xi3 Modular Systems

Friday, January 11, 2013

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xi3 FeaturedAn interesting find at CES was a new SSD created by Xi3 for use in their modular computer systems, these systems being just over 4″ x 3″ 3″ in size.

 Their new SSD contains the designation of mSATAmax and, considering that it will be available in capacities up to 1TB and have performance of 1TB/s read and write, this just may be the most powerful SSD we see in such a small computer package.

Xi3 mSATAMAX SSD Front

The Xi3 mSATAmax SSD product sheet lists it as having a 12Gb/s transfer rate, however, we believe its 1TB/s transfer speeds are achieved much as we recently saw with the Acer S7 Ultrabook where 2 x SATA 3 SSDs are present on one PCB and RAIDED to reach the listed perfomance.

Xi3 mSATAMAX SSD Back

Specifications list 1TB/s read and write with up to 160,000 IOPS at low 4k random aligned write disk access.  Capacities range from 120GB to 1TB 128-bit AES compliant data encryption. The physical size of this SSD is 46mmx85mmx5mm and it is ONLY compatible with systems that contain a Xi3 mSATAmax interface.  Release dates and pricing have not been set.

27 posted on 01/11/2013 2:44:53 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
“So we have “Gaming via the Cloud”?”

Depends on the specific game. Skyrim and Farcry 3 have cloud saves which come in handy when switching between desktop and laptop coupled with Steam of course.

28 posted on 01/11/2013 3:25:54 PM PST by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I love my steam, I am a game dork so it is awesome.


29 posted on 01/11/2013 3:47:16 PM PST by crazydad (Obamamohamed is a traitor)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
RE: "If this takes off,....what happens to the Game console makers like, ...M$,Sony, ninento, nvidia......???"

They go under, or perhaps move into drug running enterprises, that seems to always be a current need in this country.
30 posted on 01/11/2013 4:23:27 PM PST by Marine_Uncle (I'm going John Galt.... But. Honor must be earned.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce

The only bus anything needs now is USB 3.0 and eSATA, so, kudos to ‘em. Small computing is just getting started in, uh, earnest.


31 posted on 01/11/2013 9:30:27 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: Last Dakotan

I’m a physics/cs student and I have to basically stop gaming during the semester or I’ll fail.
Team Fortress 2 is one of my most fave games and I haven’t played it in 2 years.


32 posted on 01/11/2013 9:47:08 PM PST by LifeComesFirst (http://rw-rebirth.blogspot.com/)
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