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Hannity foresees states leaving union if fed government continues ‘radicalized, abusive’ pattern
dailycaller.com ^ | Jan 12 2013 | dailycaller.com

Posted on 01/12/2013 8:19:29 PM PST by NoLibZone

On his Friday radio show, conservative talker and Fox News host Sean Hannity warned that the United States may fall apart if tax rates remain high.

“The states are now fighting and battling against their own federal government,” Hannity said. ”Same thing with individuals. If you live in a state like New York, New Jersey, California [or] one of these high-tax states [where] 60-plus cents of every dollar goes to taxes, you’ll say, ‘What the hell am I doing this for?’”

“A lot of people have told me that,” Hannity continued. “A lot of people are moving. … I noticed that Bobby Jindal moved to remove his state income tax. He’s not stupid. You know what’s going to happen in Louisiana? The same thing that is happening in Texas and Florida — their populations are soaring. They’re doing a lot better. State governments are fine. They’re surviving. They don’t have the property taxes they do in New York, which is obscene. In New York, you just pay and pay and pay and pay.”

States with lower taxes may soon decide they want to stop shouldering the burden of states with higher taxes, Hannity warned.

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To: NoLibZone

Well if Texas leaves I sure hope they allow immigration from the rest of the states. I may just move back


41 posted on 01/13/2013 2:50:26 AM PST by Joe Boucher ((FUBO))
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To: TomGuy

No need physical wall. Need to remove all welfare programs to discourage the parasites from moving in. The elites on the left won’t like these states because they are full of gun-clinging, freedom-loving people. We can create an environment that is hostile to them and they will stay out. Our states can nullify all unconstitutional ‘policies’ and our sheriffs can keep the fed ‘enforcers’ out of our counties/states.


42 posted on 01/13/2013 5:51:53 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Terry Mross

Great analogy, not just Hanity though, there are others.

I haven’t been able to listen to the moderate but kisser in years.


43 posted on 01/13/2013 6:09:49 AM PST by foundedonpurpose (It's time for a fundamental restoration, of our country's principles!)
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To: montanajoe

States can recruit volunteer doctors, nurses and medical professionals to keep public clinics going.
With blooming economy and full employment the state will have much higher revenues to run the gov;
plus with all the fed taxes eliminated, people will be much more well-off and can afford to donate more to charities and consume more to contribute to the states economy.
As for social security - states can keep on withholding soc sec taxes for a pre-determined period of time, keep them in the states’ own soc security fund to pay for the current retirees, while dismantling soc sec entirely for the younger(can pay back their contribution to fed soc sec. when states have built up a surplus.)
Possibility is unlimited. We are choked now because of all the heavy taxation, burdensome regulations, unprecedented deficits and debts. Once the states balance the budget and expand the economy, the prosperity that ensues will solve many of the problems we have now.


44 posted on 01/13/2013 6:19:36 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Deagle

‘States leaving the Union won’t be so obvious. It will start with States that won’t enforce some Federal laws and slowly progress further.’
Exactly!

It has happened already - example, states refuse to observe the REAL ID act of 5 years ago and now DHS acknowledges that they couldn’t enforce the federal law and quietly gives states yet another “temporary deferment” to some unspecified future “suitable date.”

After 17 years of states resisting federal laws on weed, the DOJ is now recognizing these efforts for what they are. Nullification.

Now 25 states refuse to establish healthcare exchange (obozocare)...and,
States nullify fed gun laws (Wyoming...)

State nullification, that is what it takes.

Check out
http://tenthamendmentcenter.com/2013/01/02/2013-the-tenther-movement-hits-its-stride/


45 posted on 01/13/2013 6:33:54 AM PST by chrisnj
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To: Windflier

“The feds don’t have the cojones to militarily attack a former state of the union over a purely political matter like secession. The political will to keep any red state from separating through the use of deadly force, just simply isn’t there.”

I sense you could be very wrong about that…

We haven’t gotten there yet. I don’t believe anyone could predict what would happen when that time arrives — as indeed it may...


46 posted on 01/13/2013 7:53:54 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: buwaya

“There will be no such thing. The military would mutiny first.”

Jes’ like they “mutiny’ed” at Waco ??


47 posted on 01/13/2013 7:55:28 AM PST by Road Glide
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To: NoLibZone
Ours is like a lot of difficult marriages, especially where one side is "high maintenance" and the other is more practical.

It may take a trial separation before we can resolve the usual differences, such as our money, raising our kids and all those other things we fight about, before we come back together and renew our vows.

Otherwise, the rule is: If you love someone, let them go...

49 posted on 01/13/2013 8:00:08 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Road Glide
..you could be very wrong about that…

I'm not wrong about it, because I'm not stating my opinion. I'm stating a conclusion, deduced through logic and reasoning, supported by known facts.

50 posted on 01/13/2013 10:14:20 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: NoLibZone

Hannity is an Ass hat


51 posted on 01/13/2013 12:36:25 PM PST by ballplayer
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To: TomGuy

Throughout history many men much wiser than me have come to the determination that it is better to die fighting a free man than live as a slave. If war is our future, then let it come quickly while we still have the chance to defeat the evil leftist cabal and 5th columnists who threaten to destroy the republic. I am freakin Spartacus!! Are you?


52 posted on 01/13/2013 12:38:37 PM PST by ohioman
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To: montanajoe

Sure they could, they do already. A new Confederacy would be very economically viable. And they would have a huge leg up when they escape from the weight of most federal regulations.


53 posted on 01/13/2013 2:49:23 PM PST by buwaya
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To: buwaya
I cant see how the math would possibly work. Even in the red states there is 30-40% of the population that depend on the feds. Their economy did not support the population 40-50 years ago at the height of the American age without Fed subsidies I can't see any possibility in today's world a few sparsely populated red states (with the exception of Texas)can be economically viable as a separate nation.
54 posted on 01/13/2013 5:31:30 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: montanajoe

A nation-state would be able to levy federal taxes. There is no reason why a new Confederacy would not be able to levy the equivalent of income and SS/medicare taxes and continue these payments. It should even be able to honor federal pensions. It should be able to do this more efficiently than the federal government does today. One big advantage of the prospective Confederate states is a higher worker/retiree ratio.


55 posted on 01/13/2013 7:20:01 PM PST by buwaya
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To: montanajoe

And these states collectively are not lightly populated. A new Confederacy could easily encompass better than 100million people. And they would get to tax businesses operating in their territory that are headquartered in New York or California or anywhere else, just like France taxes Microsoft.


56 posted on 01/13/2013 7:26:16 PM PST by buwaya
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To: Viennacon

I have stated in the past that history shows that the natural state of man is tyranny, and that the only way that I can see to be truly free of the tyranny of other men is to not be here any more.

This makes some people very angry, I’ve been told to go shoot myself and all sorts of other things, but history shows us that the time of free men is so incredibly short when compared to the time of men who are not free, and we are about to find ourselves in that same group again.

I have tried to explain that even if free men leave and go and found the free republic of antartica, those who hate freedom will come and begin their plots, because that is their nature and they cannot allow freedom to exist.

It is my belief that if a man wishes to be free, then there is only one course of action that he can take to stop those who move against his freedom, and that action has to be taken immediately. Sadly, that was not done in this country, and we have allowed the forces of tyranny to infest just about everything that they need to succeed.


57 posted on 01/13/2013 8:10:40 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: NoLibZone
It will just never happen..not even Texas.
58 posted on 01/14/2013 6:09:17 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: NoLibZone
It will just never happen..not even Texas.
59 posted on 01/14/2013 6:09:36 AM PST by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: Viennacon
The inevitable rise of tyranny in the land of the free is fueled by the people who have fallen into slavery though the worship of the culture of materialism and immorality. Today the speed that information is delivered is so relentless that reflection on the soul of a man is improbable. The application of Constitution and the Bill of Rights which is based on natural law, which is also the same as God's law, must be renewed in the people's minds, heart and souls. When the cycle tyranny and slavery begins to crush the spirit of the people, then rebellion will happen and the people will elevate a return to these self-evident natural laws.
60 posted on 01/14/2013 6:45:13 AM PST by Postnbeam (Time is not on our side.)
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