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Rand Paul: GOP must ‘evolve and adapt’
Politico ^ | MACKENZIE WEINGER

Posted on 01/20/2013 2:01:28 PM PST by JohnPDuncan

Sen. Rand Paul said on Sunday that he will make a decision on a 2016 presidential run within two years and plans to be a force in the refashioning the Republican party regardless of whether he seeks the Oval Office.

“We will continue to pursue and, you know, try to make that decision over the next two years or so,” the Kentucky Republican told WABC Radio’s Aaron Klein when asked about a potential White House bid.

In the meantime, Paul said, he will “try to be part of the national debate” and added that he hopes to play a major role in directing the future of the Republican Party.

Paul added that there are major areas of concern for the party, noting “we are not popular and we have not been competitive out in California, on the West Coast, or in New England.”

And his particular brand of conservatism could play well in those regions and with other voters who may not currently identify with the Republican Party, Paul said.

“So we think a little more of a libertarian Republican, someone who is a strict Constitutionalist, but also believes in a strong, defensive military but not necessarily in an overly aggressive or bellicose lets get involved in everybody’s civil war military, I think that has more appeal to independents and some people who have given up in the Republican Party,” Paul said.

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1 posted on 01/20/2013 2:01:47 PM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: JohnPDuncan

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2 posted on 01/20/2013 2:05:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

N00bs posting polital sources haz a distinct odor.


3 posted on 01/20/2013 2:05:58 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Adaptation is HARD.

Does the GOP really hafta?

Dying, on the other hand, is easy.

All that is necessary, is to cast overboard every principle, every moral directive, and every obligation you now have, and without the burden, plunging into the depths follows almost naturally.

Go toward the light....

Which turns out to be the yawning gates of Hades.


4 posted on 01/20/2013 2:06:24 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

PLITICO


5 posted on 01/20/2013 2:06:34 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Try again, Ron


6 posted on 01/20/2013 2:08:26 PM PST by alloysteel (Bronco Bama - the cowboy who whooped up and widened the stampede.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Yikes, I give up.


7 posted on 01/20/2013 2:08:44 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Stand against the enemy or die.

Stand for freedom and the constitution or die.

Distinguish yourself clearly or die.

Lose the RINOs or die.

Win or die.


8 posted on 01/20/2013 2:10:44 PM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: JohnPDuncan
There will probably not be a presidential run in 2016. King Obama will probably be America's first dictator by then. Don't see anything stopping him now, including the GOP. Wake up America.
9 posted on 01/20/2013 2:12:08 PM PST by Logical me
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To: alloysteel

LOL...Lord have mercy!


10 posted on 01/20/2013 2:13:37 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: JohnPDuncan
Guess How Many Illegals Can Fit In A SUV?
11 posted on 01/20/2013 2:15:13 PM PST by Berlin_Freeper (Better safe than sorry.)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Politico is a known left-wing rag

NO THANKS


12 posted on 01/20/2013 2:16:23 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A lot?


13 posted on 01/20/2013 2:19:53 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

Rand has already hinted at amnesty. No thanks. I’d rather have the slow death than the total invasion.


14 posted on 01/20/2013 2:20:14 PM PST by Theoria
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To: Berlin_Freeper

A lot?


15 posted on 01/20/2013 2:20:41 PM PST by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: JohnPDuncan

He would represent a real change. The establishment would hate him but so would the Santorum types who want to regulate vice and what goes on in people’s bedrooms. I think the libertarian leaners are an untapped voter resource.


16 posted on 01/20/2013 2:20:41 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: JohnPDuncan
You still have my boys around!

Lols!


17 posted on 01/20/2013 2:23:09 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: JohnPDuncan

I suggest:

Exploit the natural anti-Gov’t stance of the Anarchist.

Play to the self centered core of the Libertarian.

The anarchist will become the extreme right with a certain appeal to the more moderate Libertarian.

Anarchy with guardrails.

The guardrails are the moral fiber, our Constitution and the inherent virtue of man.

This pulls the progressive concepts full circle, as to turn its logic, based on uncertainty, into focus to be defined.


18 posted on 01/20/2013 2:29:17 PM PST by Zeneta (Why are so many people searching for something that has already found us ?)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Rand posted this on his facebook where I got it.

He said this with it:

“Some believe the GOP must become more liberal or moderate. I disagree. Returning to the Constitution and the Founding Fathers’ vision of liberty, in both our domestic and foreign policy, can bring more people into the party.”


19 posted on 01/20/2013 2:31:16 PM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: Logical me
King Obama will probably be America's first dictator by then. Don't see anything stopping him now, including the GOP. Wake up America.

IOW: Game over, man! Game OVER!

"Hudson, just deal with it, because we need you and I'm sick of your bullsh*t."

I swear, there are a lot of Hudsons on the right. Get a grip. For starters, keep a clear head, look around you, and begin perceiving that there's good cause to have more faith in your fellow Americans. If you think Americans are stupid pushovers and children, move to France. If you think Americans are, on the whole, good, moral, productive people who like to be self-directed and would if they could, then you're on the RIGHT side.

20 posted on 01/20/2013 2:35:13 PM PST by Finny (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. -- Psalm 119:105)
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To: JohnPDuncan
One of a dozen professional bloviators who are thinking about 2016.


Evolve or adapt into what? The GOP has been trying Dem-lite for the last 2 races. Colleague Rubio is pushing amnesty as bad as McCain did. Christie wants more hugs from Obama and money from Congress.


21 posted on 01/20/2013 2:41:36 PM PST by TomGuy
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To: Logical me
There will probably not be a presidential run in 2016. King Obama will probably be America's first dictator by then.

This is just stupid. Geeze, grow up and stop spouting this kind of ridiculous stuff that makes conservatives sound unhinged.

There will be a presidential election in 2016 and Obama won't be on the ballot. Besides, why would the left want a "dictator" when they are winning elections anyway. Soft tyranny works so much better.

22 posted on 01/20/2013 2:42:09 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Theoria

I’ll take Rand Paul any day over the current crop of GOP-E losers that the Republican Party is planning to foist on us (again) in 2016, if Obama has not abolished both that election and the 22nd Amendment by Executive Order by then.


23 posted on 01/20/2013 2:42:53 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: GunRunner
The establishment would hate him but so would the Santorum types who want to regulate vice and what goes on in people’s bedrooms. I think the libertarian leaners are an untapped voter resource.

Yes. Rand is right.

I don't like being told what to do or think by conservative authoritarians any more than I like being told what to do or think by liberal authoritarians.

Individual liberty.

24 posted on 01/20/2013 2:44:46 PM PST by BfloGuy (Workers and consumers are, of course, identical.)
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To: Longbow1969
Besides, why would the left want a "dictator" when they are winning elections anyway. Soft tyranny works so much better.

Heh...they were pretty much demanding one last week, but I guess you missed those stories.

25 posted on 01/20/2013 2:45:56 PM PST by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: JohnPDuncan
So we think a little more of a libertarian Republican

Make no mistake, what is being talked about here is conservatives dropping the social issues.

26 posted on 01/20/2013 2:46:32 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: TomGuy; Finny

I agree. That said, our biggest problem (as a political alternative to socio/communism) is that half of us WANT to go along to get along and are willing to compromise.

And I mean voters calling themselves ‘conservative’, not politicians.

Look through my post history. While you may not agree with my positions in any/all cases, it’s the people I argue with and the rationales they are using that I am talking about.

They WANT compromise. Their positions on the issues are nothing BUT compromise. Yet they bitch about the GOP compromising and support them when the chips are down. Compromise and all.

Until we define who and what we believe and get rid of the enemy within, we go nowhere. Some say that if we do that we reduce our numbers and enter obscurity. My reply to that is “We are there now”. And until we change course, IE dump the people who insist on holding us on the plantation, we will stay there.


27 posted on 01/20/2013 2:49:39 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: KC_Lion

That is actually a very powerful point you just made.

Let me repeat it:

By standing down last election and handing the nomination to Romney once he had it, there was no seek-and-destroy mission on the right. Sure there was a strong campaign but most everyone came out of it just fine.

Romney lost. Fair and square. Romney was nominated. Had the entire party lined up behind him. No Palin. No distractions at all.

And he lost.

Lost.

That is a very important lesson to have learned. Romney and the so-called moderate Republicans, do not win.

The GOP learned a number of lessons last time, but the one which has been visited the least, is what of Sarah Palin.

We shall certainly see.


28 posted on 01/20/2013 2:50:18 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Timber Rattler

Obama is acting as an imperial president, but that is not the same thing as there being no election in 2016 and Obama remaining in office past his second term.

The executive branch quite often tries to usurp the authority of the other branches of government. This isn’t a new phenomenon and doesn’t mean elections have ended and Hussein will be dictator.


29 posted on 01/20/2013 2:50:51 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: JohnPDuncan
Rand posted this on his facebook where I got it.

Hmmm, then why is your source linked to Politico, a left wing propaganda rag?

If it's on his FB page, why not link that?

30 posted on 01/20/2013 2:54:58 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Timber Rattler
I've already put him in the GOP-E category. He pushed supporting Mitt. There were other options, even if they all lost.

That said, I like his pov on somethings, but my patience with amnesty supporters is over.

31 posted on 01/20/2013 2:55:26 PM PST by Theoria
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To: JohnPDuncan
The only way to save the nation is to break the hold the Washingtonians from both factions have over our wallets and freedom.

No solutions will come from DC.

DC is the problem.

Nothing other than higher taxes and less freedom will come from Washington.

Time to stop looking to the political class in DC for solutions to the problems they have created.

If Rand Paul and the GOP and the communist faction Democrats really want to help us citizen tax payers outside the Beltway, they all ought to commit suicide.

32 posted on 01/20/2013 2:56:28 PM PST by Rome2000 (THE WASHINGTONIANS AND UNIVERSAL SUFFRAGE ARE THE ENEMY -ROTATE THE CAPITAL AMONGST THE STATES)
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To: Longbow1969
The executive branch quite often tries to usurp the authority of the other branches of government. This isn’t a new phenomenon and doesn’t mean elections have ended and Hussein will be dictator.

It does?

Power pushes, maybe, usurpation, no.

Always defending obama, curious.

33 posted on 01/20/2013 3:00:24 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Longbow1969
At the federal level, yes. Drop them and get back to the enumerated powers.

Fight for your social issue of choice at the state and local level.

34 posted on 01/20/2013 3:03:28 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
What we really need to do is run conservatives on the local levels and get them into positions of Delegates and choosing our nomiee.

That is what I mean when I say we still have Willard's and Tokyo Rove's people around.

They did not and wouldn't not except Sarah again.

It's either that or GOP loses in perpetuity and Conservatives seek another path separate from them.

35 posted on 01/20/2013 3:03:28 PM PST by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.-Sarah Palin)
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To: Theoria

Rand would have a tough time just getting renominated for the Senate in 2016, but I will vote for him if he is the presidential nominee.


36 posted on 01/20/2013 3:03:53 PM PST by Theodore R. ("Hey, the American people must all be crazy out there!")
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To: Rome2000

Bump, bump, freaking BUMP to your outstanding post!

Washington is in need of a massive, dare I say, DOUCHE!


37 posted on 01/20/2013 3:04:15 PM PST by Las Vegas Ron (Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Maybe you missed it, but she was part of the establishment ticket that lost to Obama the first time. And people don’t like her with the exception of her little cargo cult.


38 posted on 01/20/2013 3:06:43 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner

OK we seem to recall that race, somewhat differently.

:)


39 posted on 01/20/2013 3:12:07 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Longbow1969

The irony is Rand is hugely social conservative, he just thinks the Feds shouldn’t be involved.

He is against abortion with no exceptions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgCy4jyIs_s

And he said he wouldn’t vote to legalize drugs in his state but he doesn’t want it to be a federal issue.

He is socially conservative at the state level!

If he was Governor of Kentucky he would behave differently as President of the United States.

It’s kind of like having a split personality.


40 posted on 01/20/2013 3:12:18 PM PST by JohnPDuncan
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To: GunRunner

Her little cargo cult still would like to know which of her positions offends the PDSers so...

Or are we back to just parroting the MSNBC party line?


41 posted on 01/20/2013 3:13:12 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: BfloGuy

Let me guess, dope supporter, gay marriage supporter, abortion supporter.

How is support for abortion ‘libertarian?’ You’re killing people who would otherwise exist.


42 posted on 01/20/2013 3:17:09 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I have no problem with any of her positions except for foreign wars. Its not her policy, but her unelectability at the national level. She might make a great Alaska Senator one day. Nothing more.


43 posted on 01/20/2013 3:18:25 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: Longbow1969

Exactly so - the assumption is that by being full on pro-abort, pro-gay marriage and pro-dope that this will lead to the salvation of the Republican party.

Seen it. I also don’t believe that ‘libertarians’ are even interested in passing spending cuts either. If you’re willing to compromise on social issues, then what’s stopping you from compromising on spending issues too?


44 posted on 01/20/2013 3:18:44 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: GunRunner

Let me guess ‘cargo cult’, eh? Kerry/Obama/Obama?


45 posted on 01/20/2013 3:20:15 PM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: JCBreckenridge

All state and local issues. Those are all under the purview of the FedGov now. How’s that working out for ya?


46 posted on 01/20/2013 3:21:52 PM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: GunRunner

Now reduce your statement to it’s core and give this serious thought.... You largely agree with her positions. Not all, but no pol is perfect. Her included.

So why is she unelectable? The throngs of people that show up every time she makes a public appearance is a bit more than a cargo cult. In fact, she dwarfs the oh so popular Obama in people showing up to her events.

That indicates the MSM polls and spin are just that. Spin.

Is she REALLY unpopular? If people agree with/share her views/policies, are they all really so shallow as to dismiss her as a candidate?

If that’s true then we are a bunch of morons that deserve whatever the GOP throws out there.


47 posted on 01/20/2013 3:24:50 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: JohnPDuncan
I think the Libertarians and the GOPe want to drive the social conservatives and defense conservatives out of the GOP.
48 posted on 01/20/2013 3:25:06 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Las Vegas Ron
Always defending obama, curious.

No, defending sanity. Conservatives do not need to be associated with a bunch of unhinged silliness and stupid conspiracy theories (like the ones you push about Sandy Hook).

49 posted on 01/20/2013 3:26:19 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Politico aren’t completely a left-wing propaganda rag, at least not openly.

I agree they’re very left leaning but it’s not Daily Kos is it? they’re a legitimate news source.

Although I have emailed their “journalists” repeatedly because of them parroting the Democrat Party line on the debt “default”. I asked them to explain how default is possible when interest on the debt is 30bn a month and revenues are 200bn. They blocked my email lol and now when I email some of their journalists it bounces back... but they did run an article where Republicans pointed this out.

So I do find them left leaning but somewhat fair.


50 posted on 01/20/2013 3:27:38 PM PST by JohnPDuncan
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