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Lehigh University student sues over grade, seeks $1.3 million
mcall.com ^ | 02/13/2013 | Riley Yates

Posted on 02/13/2013 5:38:11 AM PST by massmike

Megan Thode isn't the first Lehigh University student who was unhappy with the grade she received in a course. But she may be the first to sue to get it changed.

The C+ that Thode was given scuttled her dream of becoming a licensed professional counselor and was part of an effort to force her out of the graduate degree program she was pursuing, said her lawyer, Richard J. Orloski, whose lawsuit seeks $1.3 million in damages.

Orloski said his client is the victim of breach of contract and sexual discrimination, and a civil trial began Monday before Northampton County Judge Emil Giordano over the claims.

Thode, 27, of Nazareth, was enrolled in the College of Education in her second and final year of a master's in counseling and human services. She needed a B to take the next course of her field work requirement.

Orloski said she would have received that grade but for the zero in classroom participation that she was awarded by her teacher, Amanda Carr. Orloski charged that Carr and Nicholas Ladany — the then-director of the degree program — conspired to hold Thode back because they were unhappy that she'd complained after she and three other students were forced to find a supplemental internship partway through the semester.

Orloski also alleged that Carr was biased against Thode because Thode advocated for gay and lesbian rights — a claim Lehigh's attorneys dismissed as baseless since Carr has a close family member who is a lesbian, and has counseled gay and lesbian people.

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TOPICS: Education; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: ageofentitlemen; homosexualagenda

1 posted on 02/13/2013 5:38:23 AM PST by massmike
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To: massmike

...and she attends school FOR FREE!!!!!!!!

http://www.perthnow.com.au/business/worklife/megan-thode-sues-lehigh-university-for-13-million-over-a-c-grade/story-fn7kjxsd-1226577010609


2 posted on 02/13/2013 5:42:16 AM PST by massmike (At least no one is wearing a "Ron Paul - 2016" tee shirt........yet!)
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To: massmike

http://imgur.com/tCp90.gif


3 posted on 02/13/2013 5:43:41 AM PST by JCBreckenridge (Texas is a state of mind - Steinbeck)
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To: massmike
As a certified counselor, I see she deals with disappointment in a rational, and proportionate manner.

On those merits alone she should fail.

4 posted on 02/13/2013 5:44:59 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: massmike

If you have no job prospects after college, sue someone for something!


5 posted on 02/13/2013 5:46:15 AM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: massmike

“Megan Thode, who attended Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania, for free as her dad Steven is a professor at the private facility,...”

I hope she not only loses, but pays court costs.

What a bunch of Nonsense.


6 posted on 02/13/2013 5:49:04 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: massmike

She should attend the college I teach at in California. The faculty sponsor a Gay-Straight Alliance “Kiss-in” every year.


7 posted on 02/13/2013 5:50:48 AM PST by Huskrrrr
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To: massmike

If this works, I’m sitting on a goldmine!


8 posted on 02/13/2013 5:52:00 AM PST by ottbmare (The OTTB Mare)
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To: massmike

A lot of people in college these days have no business there, affirmative action and the like have put them in over their heads. Social promotion is the answer I guess. /sarc


9 posted on 02/13/2013 5:59:08 AM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: massmike

LOL. Pass the popcorn on this one. A liberal “victim” clashes with the liberal power structure. The claim is amusing, but I could easily see some prima donna professor awarding a zero class participation out of spite. And I love the “some of my best friends are gay” defense to the laughable claim that the zero was awarded because the student “advocated gay rights.” This is the bizzaro world modern PC Liberalism has brought us too.


10 posted on 02/13/2013 6:06:58 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: GeronL

“Hamburg and Michael Sacks, another Lehigh lawyer, said that while Thode may have looked like a good student on paper, she was not ready to move on. They said Thode showed unprofessional behavior that included swearing in class and, on one occasion, having an outburst in which she began crying.”

New grade here: LOSER


11 posted on 02/13/2013 6:10:29 AM PST by Mouton (108th MI Group.....68-71)
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To: massmike

Lehigh is one of the most expensive schools around.

Shouldn’t she have to pay tax on the cost (as paid by other students) of her free “education”, just like lottery winners have to pay tax on their free money?


12 posted on 02/13/2013 6:12:28 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: massmike

Liberal v. Liberals

Sit back and enjoy the carnage!


13 posted on 02/13/2013 6:21:44 AM PST by gopno1
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To: Ezekiel

Can anything good come from Nazareth?


14 posted on 02/13/2013 6:22:32 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: blackdog

“Her father is a (finance) professor...” — who failed her miserably if he did not teach her how to handle her emotions, or counsel her on her career choice if she was unsuitable for this field.


15 posted on 02/13/2013 6:35:59 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: massmike

Not at all surprised. The most frequent refrain heard from snotty teenagers in well-to-do parts of town is a sneering “My dad’s a lawyer an he’ll SUE your a*s!”

And most of the time, Dad is stupid enough to do it.
(I personally know of a case where the daughter of a lawyer working a part-time retail job was disciplined for refusing to clean the rest room, and her dad sued the company)


16 posted on 02/13/2013 6:37:37 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Opinionated Blowhard
LOL. Pass the popcorn on this one. A liberal “victim” clashes with the liberal power structure. The claim is amusing, but I could easily see some prima donna professor awarding a zero class participation out of spite.

Exactomundo!

Most posters on this thread seem to blame the student, but I'm not so sure. The girl got a ZERO, for class participation. why a zero? Did she never come to class? Did she never say anything? If her class participation had been sadly lacking, would she perhaps have earned a 20%? Or 23%? But, no, she got a ZERO. I'm highly suspicious that there was some fishy going on.

BTW, you know the difference between a tenured professor and a terrorist, don't you? You can negotiate with the terrorist.

17 posted on 02/13/2013 7:11:33 AM PST by rmh47 (Go Kats! - Got eight? NRA Life Member])
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To: rmh47
The girl got a ZERO, for class participation. why a zero? Did she never come to class? Did she never say anything? If her class participation had been sadly lacking, would she perhaps have earned a 20%? Or 23%? But, no, she got a ZERO. I'm highly suspicious that there was some fishy going on.

I would like to see the syllabus for the course. Was there an explicit declaration that class participation would be measured and counted toward the final grade? What was the criteria for participation? Class attendance? Asking and answering questions? Debating with the professor and other students--in a polite, respectful manner, of course?

I agree that ZERO seems extreme--to me, such a grade would indicate that the student NEVER came to class, but whether or not that grade can or will change, will likely be dependent upon how well classroom participation was defined in the syllabus.

Although it's been 20+ years since I last sat in a college classroom, I understand that many profs take it as a personal affront when students don't come to class. It's almost as bad when they do come, but sit there like bumps on a log, afraid to engage in any sort of intellectual intercourse with the class.

18 posted on 02/13/2013 7:29:04 AM PST by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: cyn

Heh heh.

Yes, poor Megan of Nazareth, brought before LeHigh Priests.

Like Moses, trying to part the red “C.”

I say, render unto C-students that which belongs to C-students.

A sub-honor student is not without profit, but in her own country.


19 posted on 02/13/2013 7:33:15 AM PST by Chad N. Freud (FR is the modern equivalent of the Committees of Correspondence. Let other analogies arise.)
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To: rmh47

she probably got some points for showing up, and engaging in the required psychobabble, but had them taken away for attitude and swearing in class.


20 posted on 02/13/2013 7:33:40 AM PST by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: massmike

A couple things:

1. Schools set themselves up by giving gatekeeper responsibilities to individual instructors making subjective evaluations. In this case, a grade of B being required in a particular course.

It would be better to entrust the gatekeeping function to a collective decision of the faculty. For example, an average of B over six courses, with not more than two C’s. After all, it is the faculty - and not individual members of the faculty - who recommend the conferring of a degree.

2. While the psychology profession has removed homosexuality per se as a personality disorder (because not all homosexuals are incapable of leading productive and happy lives), homosexuality is nevertheless associated with a complex of personality disorders (e.g., narcissism), which can significantly impact professional conduct to include the exercise of professional judgment.

In this case, there may be a reason that this particular course serves as a gatekeeper course going beyond simple mastery of a body of knowledge. There can be, for example, concerns for profession conduct including the exercise of professional judgement, that can only be observed in clinical setting. If this is the case, the institution should consider having a panel of faculty involved in the grading of the course.

3. Were the University ordered to increase the student’s grade, the disability from seeking the career this student has in mind would be lifted, mitigating the loss of future income to the delay in time in seeking the more rewarding career.

That the student’s lawyer erred so badly in his economic loss calculation should dispose the court to dismissing the case out-of-hand. But, I notice this was not what the court has done. Perhaps we are only very preliminary into the court case.


21 posted on 02/13/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: massmike

A couple things:

1. Schools set themselves up by giving gatekeeper responsibilities to individual instructors making subjective evaluations. In this case, a grade of B being required in a particular course.

It would be better to entrust the gatekeeping function to a collective decision of the faculty. For example, an average of B over six courses, with not more than two C’s. After all, it is the faculty - and not individual members of the faculty - who recommend the conferring of a degree.

2. While the psychology profession has removed homosexuality per se as a personality disorder (because not all homosexuals are incapable of leading productive and happy lives), homosexuality is nevertheless associated with a complex of personality disorders (e.g., narcissism), which can significantly impact professional conduct to include the exercise of professional judgment.

In this case, there may be a reason that this particular course serves as a gatekeeper course going beyond simple mastery of a body of knowledge. There can be, for example, concerns for profession conduct including the exercise of professional judgement, that can only be observed in clinical setting. If this is the case, the institution should consider having a panel of faculty involved in the grading of the course.

3. Were the University ordered to increase the student’s grade, the disability from seeking the career this student has in mind would be lifted, mitigating the loss of future income to the delay in time in seeking the more rewarding career.

That the student’s lawyer erred so badly in his economic loss calculation should dispose the court to dismissing the case out-of-hand. But, I notice this was not what the court has done. Perhaps we are only very preliminary into the court case.


22 posted on 02/13/2013 7:47:02 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Chad N. Freud

Rofl @ lehigh priests (in Bethlehem, no less!) and parting red C.

A+ for you, and gratitude for the hilarious clever post, truly beyond all I could ask or imagine!


23 posted on 02/13/2013 7:53:24 AM PST by cyn (Benghazi...the travesty continues.)
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To: cyn

Nazareth had some good tunes....Love Hurts, Hair of the Dog (Now You’re Messing w. a Son of a B...). Appropriate tunes for this lawsuit


24 posted on 02/13/2013 10:36:35 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: massmike

I work for a college.....and the professors and staff are bigger douches than the students....no kidding. This is also a grad student too....which makes this case much more winnable for her


25 posted on 02/13/2013 10:39:43 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (GOP = Greenlighting Obama's Programs)
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To: massmike

She lost and per this article her attorney says she won’t appeal.

http://www.abajournal.com/news/article/judge_blasts_both_sides_in_1.3m_college_grade_suit_doubts_he_has_power_to/


26 posted on 02/15/2013 11:53:20 PM PST by EDINVA
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