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Kel-Tec PMR-30 Range Report (Gun Porn)
gunsamerica.com ^ | AUGUST 5, 2012 | N/A

Posted on 02/14/2013 10:10:12 PM PST by Jet Jaguar

It is amazing that one of the most scarce and in demand pistols today is the Kel-Tec PMR-30. You can’t get one, and many gun dealers have even created sign-up lists for customers to get them as they come in. The PMR-30 isn’t a cheap gun. The MSRP is $415, yet the demand for the PMR-30, after literally years, seems unquenchable. But if I asked you to play word association on guns, and my hint was “plastic 22WMR pistol with orange and green fiber optic sights and a 30 round magazine,” what would you say? Nothing, right? Nothing comes to mind. So what on earth is this gun for? That’s the point. The PMR-30 is for just about everything.

We first got this gun in for review over a year ago and we have been afraid to publish a review because of the negative comments about Kel-Tec not being able to produce enough of them. By now we figured that the demand would catch up, but that is not the case. You can’t blame Kel-Tec though. They have steadily increased manufacturing capacity over the last two years, but there is an unprecedented demand for their guns. Any faster and they would have to compromise quality control, which is unacceptable. Demand has only increased during that time for the PMR-30, as well as all of their pocket guns, the .223 rifles and pistols, Sub-2000, RFB, and the KSG. This speaks volumes for the company mission of Kel-Tec. Put yourself on the list and eventually you’ll get a PMR-30, at a normal price. A lot of people have already commented on our KSG article that they have been able to get them for MSRP, and the PMR-30 is rarely priced over normal retail price.

Our test gun has now been shot repeatedly with dozens of shooters of the course of the last year or so and it has never failed to fire with just about every brand of .22WMR available. It seems to like the Hornady 30 grain V-Max the best, but the 45 grain Critical Defense has been close in accuracy. Inexpensive range ammo from Federal, Winchester, Fiocchi and CCI at less than $10 a box has been almost as accurate, and perfectly acceptable for most jobs you might find for the PMR-30.

That list, of what the gun is good for, is as long as any pistol we have ever tested. It is perfect for small game hunting and as a truck or under the front seat gun. For self defense, the nearly recoil free PMR-30 is ideal for small framed shooters and especially the elderly who can’t handle any recoil, and can’t rack the slide on a regular semi-auto handgun. One round of .22WMR is devastating. Thirty should just about do the trick if someone crashes through your front door in the middle of the night. It is a slightly awkward gun to handle because of the thick grip, but once you get used to it the feeling is very intuitive. We have had several women with small hands shoot the gun and not one have complained that it didn’t fit them.

Perhaps the most unique job for the PMR-30 is as a ranch gun. Just yesterday Dwayne Powell, our resident guide at Kissimee River Hunt & Fish, shot the gun for the first time. His reaction was “this gun could save my life.” He doesn’t always carry a rifle on his hunts with clients because, between blinds, seats, callers, and other gear, there is just too much to carry. This little PMR-30 will most likely stop a charging hog or gator in a pinch, and with 30 rounds there is plenty of room in the magazine to miss a few on a moving target. You can practice shooting at moving targets on the range, but there is nothing like the tunnel vision and adrenaline of facing a charging deadly animal in real life. Moving faster than you might think they can, the more times you can miss a charging killer and still have more bullets in the magazine, the better. Things don’t always go the way you think they should.

What is truly incredible about the PMR-30 is its accuracy over the course of the 30 round magazine with a hot gun. It gets boring showing a five round group for most pistols. Guns are so good now that most are pretty close when it comes to accuracy on a cold gun. Heat the gun up and try the same test and more than not you will find that the same gun sprays bullets into a much wider circle. But on the PMR-30, you can put magazine after magazine through the gun and it will hold its groups and shoot to the same point of aim. You see here that just yesterday we put over 200 rounds through our test gun then shot a 30 round target with it still hot. Most shots fell into a 2 inch ragged hole at ten yards. That is incredible.

One thing you may not like about the gun is that the sights are not at all adjustable, except for a drift-able dovetail in the front. Our test gun shot a little low at 10 yards, but it is centered to point of aim. This was with the Hornady 30 grain V-Max. In prior outings, at 25 yards, similar testing has been more centered to point of aim. When you get your PMR-30, like any fixed sight gun, you’ll have to see where it shoots and get used to adapting your point of aim for the ammo you plan to use.

Other details you might want to know about the PMR-30 are that it weighs under 14 ounces empty and about 20 ounces full. Our test gun had a trigger pull around 4 pounds and breaks clean, but could have a little more of a tactile stop before it fires if you want to be picky. The magazine release is in the heel, not a button. The action on the gun is unique and automatically adjusts itself to the ammo between locked breech and straight blowback. This is probably why some ammo came out more accurate than others. The safety is ambidextrous and uses the 1911 style up/safe, down/fire. It takes down for cleaning with a single pin.

It is hard to do an article on a gun that is difficult to get here at GunsAmerica Magazine & Blog. We currently email over 600,000 subscribers, and though the PMR-30 is a widely known gun, more people are going to know about it now. A lot of you are going to want it and won’t be able to get it right away, but don’t worry, the PMR-30 doesn’t need impulse buyers. It is a timelessly good gun and will be around for a long time. Kel-Tec will eventually find a way to meet the demand, and all of our safe’s with then have a PMR-30 for plinking, small game hunting, and even self defense and out on the ranch. This is a great gun, and if you can find one, grab it. No, ours is not for sale.


TOPICS: Gardening; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: banglist; keltec; pmr30


1 posted on 02/14/2013 10:10:26 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

This and Kel-Tec’s RMR-30 would make a great pistol/carbine combo. Same ammo, same magazines.


2 posted on 02/14/2013 10:17:47 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: Sergio

3 posted on 02/14/2013 10:22:50 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Jet Jaguar

Oh Babs, darling, guess what we have, just for YOU!!!!

Happy Valentine’s Day, ms. “Call me senator” Feinstein!


4 posted on 02/14/2013 10:27:31 PM PST by Terry L Smith
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To: Jet Jaguar

Seeing one of these is about as rare as seeing an Iberian Lynx.


5 posted on 02/14/2013 10:39:02 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I’m drooling...


6 posted on 02/14/2013 11:07:33 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Jet Jaguar

hickok45 did a review of one sometime back:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ti9bs-7ES2M


7 posted on 02/14/2013 11:10:47 PM PST by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: 3Fingas

I once owned AMT .22 mag semiauto pistol and considered a Kel-tec, but then I saw the .22 TCM 1911 and had to have one too fill that nich. Of course the ammo is higher, but I am a reloader and that will keep the cost down. It has way more power than the .22 Mag and the recoil is very mild.

http://www.gunblast.com/RockIsland-22TCM.htm


8 posted on 02/15/2013 1:58:16 AM PST by Okieshooter
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To: Jet Jaguar

Early examples exhibited a lot of keyholing. Keltec changed the barrel’s rifling twist, and that cured most of it, but it is still picky about which ammo it shoots straight.


9 posted on 02/15/2013 3:14:36 AM PST by Yo-Yo
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To: 3Fingas

Got four mags filled with Critical defense=120 rounds of sheer pleasure.A hoot to shoot !


10 posted on 02/15/2013 4:12:06 AM PST by Renegade
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To: Jet Jaguar

Friend, a seasoned shooter and collector, was able to get one after a short wait. After several range sessions and numerous jams, he sold it (a very rare thing for him to do with any gun). As they say, “All that glitters is not gold!” and “Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.”


11 posted on 02/15/2013 4:29:37 AM PST by Boomer One
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To: Jet Jaguar
Really, what I see here is the future of 3D printed handguns and rifles.
12 posted on 02/15/2013 4:40:53 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Jet Jaguar
Most shots fell into a 2 inch ragged hole at ten yards. That is incredible.

Two inches low two inch group at TEN YARDS WHAT A JOKE.

That just sucks the shooter is a piss poor shot or the pistol is just inaccurate.

I have many handguns that well make just over caliber size holes at 10 yards. Hot cold or other wise.

After seeing that group looks to me just the same old Kel-Tec crap they have made for years.

13 posted on 02/15/2013 4:50:15 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Boomer One
After several range sessions and numerous jams, he sold it

I've heard the same about them. But, posted here it's free advertising. lol

14 posted on 02/15/2013 4:59:20 AM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: riverrunner
Most shots fell into a 2 inch ragged hole at ten yards. That is incredible. Two inches low two inch group at TEN YARDS WHAT A JOKE. That just sucks the shooter is a piss poor shot or the pistol is just inaccurate. I have many handguns that well make just over caliber size holes at 10 yards. Hot cold or other wise. After seeing that group looks to me just the same old Kel-Tec crap they have made for years.

I can shoot better than that too and have weapons that are more accurate than I am. But I won't dismiss out-of-hand a weapon that either needs to have the sights adjusted, up and a tad to the left, or may have been fired by someone other than Annie Oakley. There are target pistols and there are utility pistols. A good target pistol starts out more expensive than others and then it may need further "adjustments" to tune it to the shooter. There are hot-shots and there are average shooters.

15 posted on 02/15/2013 5:06:53 AM PST by trebb (Allies no longer trust us. Enemies no longer fear us.)
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To: trebb
2 inches at 10 yards doesn't even fall into the utility pistol range. One could easy miss a squirrel or rabbit even being dead on. All my 22 pistol can easily kill small game out past 25.

Kel-Tec come up with some great ideas but never seem to get them just right.

16 posted on 02/15/2013 5:17:09 AM PST by riverrunner
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To: Jet Jaguar

Before I even read this article I had a dream where several attackers were attempting to kill me at home, they prevented me from gaining access to my main weapons and all I had was a Ruger .22 pistol that had about only 5-6 .22LR bullets in it, but in my dream I was shooting back at one baddy in the dark shadows aiming for his head, I think I struck at least twice and then went after the second, but he was hightaing it out when he saw his partner going down.

So now I am awake and I see this pistol, man would I love to have one! Quantity is awesome!


17 posted on 02/15/2013 5:57:19 AM PST by Eye of Unk
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BFL


18 posted on 02/15/2013 6:47:18 AM PST by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: Sergio

bflr


19 posted on 02/15/2013 7:18:59 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: riverrunner
squirrel or rabbit

Squirrels and rabbits are why .410 and other small size shot guns are available. If you're hunting rabbits with a .22 it isn't because you're hungry.

Man is the only animal who hunts on a full stomach.

20 posted on 02/15/2013 8:34:24 AM PST by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows
I have killed thousands of rabbits and squirrels with a 22 rf.

It is one of the frist choices for putting meat on the table.

Shotguns ruin to much meat head shots only for the 22. I found no need for a shotgun

Plus shot gun shells cost a lot more then 22 ammo for the same amount of meat. There is game that a shotgun is more suited for but rabbits and squirrels naw.

21 posted on 02/15/2013 7:21:03 PM PST by riverrunner
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