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After Ratzinger, Enough With the Old European Popes!
Daily Beast ^ | A.N. Wilson

Posted on 02/15/2013 1:35:27 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs

He was supposed to be ‘God’s Rottweiler.’In Newsweek, A.N. Wilson looks at the paradox of Benedict XVI.

My wife exclaimed, when she heard of the pope’s surprise announcement to retire:“It’s bad enough having one old man thinking he’s infallible—now there’ll be two of them!” Our conversation went on to imagine the election of yet another octogenarian, who might well in turn resign before the demise of Benedict. Pretty soon, the Vatican could fill up with retired infallible old men, most of them Italian,allnodding in front of the daytime television in the geriatric wing, andall—all—infallible.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: anwilson; bxvi; christophobia; enemedia

1 posted on 02/15/2013 1:35:30 PM PST by ExxonPatrolUs
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Next up, Peter the Roman?


2 posted on 02/15/2013 1:37:15 PM PST by RetiredArmy (1 Cor 15: 50-54 & 1 Thess 4: 13-17. That about covers it.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Obviously does not have a deep understanding of infallibility.


3 posted on 02/15/2013 1:37:59 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
The intellectual mosquito doesn't know that the doctrine of infallibility only applies when the Pope speaks ex cathedra about Church doctrine.

He thinks it means like when Mickey Mouse puts on a wizard's hat.

4 posted on 02/15/2013 1:38:42 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I am in favor of Odilo Pedro Scherer from Brazil. Remember in 1978 the Cardinals elected Karol Wojtyla, then we saw what happened in the next 13 years in Eastern Europe.


5 posted on 02/15/2013 1:39:45 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
The nationality of the Pope means nothing.It's what's in his heart,his soul,his mind.Italian Pope...German Pope...Polish Pope....Chinese Pope....Nigerian Pope...Brazilian Pope,so what!

It's the soul and the spirit that counts.

6 posted on 02/15/2013 1:39:55 PM PST by Gay State Conservative ("Progressives" toss the word "racist" around like chimps toss their feces)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

So much ignorance, so little time...


7 posted on 02/15/2013 1:40:31 PM PST by COBOL2Java (Fighting Obama without Boehner & McConnell is like going deer hunting without your accordion)
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To: RetiredArmy

Of the twelve probable popes, 3 are named Peter.


8 posted on 02/15/2013 1:41:08 PM PST by Perdogg (Mark Levin - It's called the Bill of Rights not Bill of Needs)
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To: lacrew

lacrew ~:” Obviously does not have a deep understanding of infallibility.”

My understanding is that infallibility occurs only when the Pope is speaking ‘ Ex Cathedra ‘


9 posted on 02/15/2013 1:41:08 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (“Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction.” - Ronald Reagan)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

A.N.W. should stick to things he understands. But he’s never been able to resist attacking Christians. He considers himself an expert at it.


10 posted on 02/15/2013 1:42:16 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Stupid, repulsive, hatred towards the elderly and our Western civilization. Definition of a lib!


11 posted on 02/15/2013 1:43:03 PM PST by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The intellectual mosquito

Funny... and accurate.

And you've met people like this. They tend to have a fairly high opinion of themselves. Effectively, they regard themselves as infallible. If only they could see the irony.

12 posted on 02/15/2013 1:49:57 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
That has always been the problem for “traditionalists” or “conservatives” in any sphere of life—church, politics, family life. How far do you want to go back?

It is not a matter of going back to the past, it is a matter using accumulated wisdom. You don't have to reinvent the wheel.
Or as Kipling said:

"And the Gods of the Copybook Headings, I notice, outlast them all. "

13 posted on 02/15/2013 1:51:44 PM PST by oldbrowser (They are marxists, don't call them democrats)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

I’m not a Catholic but I am tired of all the hostile, snarky writing on the Pope. As am old, tired man, I completely understand Benedict’s decision to retire. He clearly sees his human fallibility and doesn’t want to inflict it on his church either by inaction or mistaken action.

Ironically, Arinze may give the church the least “diversity” in doctrine and be the better choice. However, I don’t really have a dog in this fight other Than my wishing Catholics well.


14 posted on 02/15/2013 1:51:56 PM PST by JimSEA ( “what difference does it make?”)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

A fairly shallow and stupid anti-Catholic rant.


15 posted on 02/15/2013 1:54:21 PM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Cicero
A.N.W. should stick to things he understands. But he’s never been able to resist attacking Christians. He considers himself an expert at it.

Sure, he's been a columnist for the British press.

That means he writes about things he doesn't know about.

Not sure about the rest. Wilson was an atheist for a while. Before that he was Catholic. Before that he was Anglican. Now he's Anglican again.

16 posted on 02/15/2013 1:54:43 PM PST by x
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
Old ratzinger would have quit several years ago, but he was so into dressing in luxuious silken gowns, slippers and capes.

Maybe, Obammi should be allowed to select the next pope. He'd make sure the new pope wasn't queer as a 3 dollar Bill. Rev. Pope Jerry Wright has a nice ring to it, you vile Americans!

17 posted on 02/15/2013 2:06:44 PM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt

Yes.

And this author flippantly talks about a potential stable of ex-popes that are infallible....but by definition, only one pope at a time could ever teach ‘ex cathedra’....

And like alot of non-catholics, his tone equates it to some cartoonish super-power that might help him pick the right lottery number.


18 posted on 02/15/2013 2:21:15 PM PST by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

Why do clowns who have no concept of Papal Infallibility, grant unto themselves the same authority, when it come to interpreting Scripture?


19 posted on 02/15/2013 2:30:14 PM PST by G Larry (Which of Obama's policies do you think I'd support if he were white?)
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To: lacrew

Let him be anathema;)


20 posted on 02/15/2013 2:35:23 PM PST by RPTMS
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To: STD

Do you realize how childish that post was?

You need professional help as well as prayers from your Christian brothers.


21 posted on 02/15/2013 2:36:24 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs


22 posted on 02/15/2013 2:47:14 PM PST by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: JimSEA
"However, I don’t really have a dog in this fight other Than my wishing Catholics well. "

Thanks, if I may venture a guess, it would be that someone from an Order will be chosen.

23 posted on 02/15/2013 3:10:42 PM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
"After Ratzinger, Enough With the Old European Popes! "

Perhaps a young, hip, Kenyan/Indonesian/Hawaiian gangstuh from Chicago would bring about the desired change...the Pope of Hope!

24 posted on 02/15/2013 3:15:11 PM PST by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Obummer is already the messiah, so he would not take a demotion and become pope.


25 posted on 02/15/2013 3:26:10 PM PST by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

The warm, stinky air rising from an open cesspit of anti-Catholic hate. A. N. Wilson is a mess of a man.

“In the late 1980s he publicly stated that he was an atheist and published a pamphlet ‘Against Religion’... For nearly 30 years he continued to be both a sceptic, and a prominent atheist.

“In April 2009 he published an article in the Daily Mail affirming his rediscovery of faith, and conversion to Christianity, attacking at the same time both academic and media atheists.”

This sounds like an unhappy man, who remains unhappy whether he believes in God or not, yet feels free to criticize others who believe in God or not.


26 posted on 02/15/2013 3:40:28 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: STD
Bad enough to be slamming down shots of Old Skullcracker in the middle of the day, but then to post online is very bad form.
27 posted on 02/15/2013 4:03:15 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: ExxonPatrolUs

He’s not a Rottweiler. He’s a German Shepherd.


28 posted on 02/15/2013 4:48:16 PM PST by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: x

I read his biography of C. S. Lewis and a few other things back when they came out, but I didn’t realize that he had become a Christian again—I gather in 2009.

He writes well, but he has long had a bug on the subject of religion.


29 posted on 02/15/2013 5:26:01 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Tanniker Smith

“He’s not a Rottweiler. He’s a German Shepherd.”

Beautifully put.


30 posted on 02/15/2013 5:47:43 PM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Agreed. A conservative, dynamic Catholic pope who seeks to convert the growing masses of atheists and Muslims will revitalize the church - regardless of his nationality. A liberal, relaxed and lazy Pope will hurt the church - regardless of his nationality.


31 posted on 02/15/2013 7:47:10 PM PST by tbw2
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To: rbmillerjr

You’re right, maybe we should pray for all those innocent victims of pedophile priests kept in business by Ratzinger when he alone was in charge of letting them ‘ROME’ around the world unidentified as the pederasts they were.


32 posted on 02/21/2013 3:44:31 PM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: STD

“He’d make sure the new pope wasn’t queer as a 3 dollar Bill.”

Pope Benedict has been outspoken about not accepting homosexuality nor homosexual marriage. He is a defender of the Christian tradition and biblical Word of God regarding homosexuals.

“maybe we should pray for all those innocent victims of pedophile priests”

I would hope that we would pray for all victims of pedophiles...prists, pastors, and secular teachers, since the abuse percentages are the same across denominations and atheists.

“kept in business by Ratzinger when he alone was in charge of letting them ‘ROME’ around the world unidentified as the pederasts they were.”

This is absurd. Benedict has taken extraordinary measures to transfer some procedures into the Vatican due to errant Bishops’ practices, especially liberal American Bishops.


33 posted on 02/21/2013 4:04:04 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: rbmillerjr
Sure, Ratzinger's the social director of the Pedophiles himself. Why did he halt all legal cases to delay them for dozens of years? Are you familiar with Father Flynn, the Elvis Impersonator from Ireland; a REAL Monster.

God will punish as He sees fit, I would not want to be prancing around in Benedict's silken dresses. Of course, Ratzinger can't leave the Vatican, so they'll bring him visitors? Would you send your six year old to visit him alone?

Italian Paper Says Cardinals Discovered Homosexual Network Within Vatican Catholic Culture ^ | 2/21/13 Posted on February 22, 2013 9:20:34 AM CST by marshmallow

The Vatican has refused to comment on Italian press reports that an internal report on the “Vatileaks” scandal might have influenced the decision by Pope Benedict XVI to resign.

The daily La Repubblica reported that in their report to the Pope, a commission of 3 cardinals investigating the leaked papal documents had found evidence of a homosexual network within the Vatican, and hinted at the possibility that some Vatican officials were subject to blackmail.

“There will be no comment, denials or confirmation of what has been written in an Italian newspaper,” Father Federico Lombardi, the director of the Vatican press office, told reporters during a February 21 briefing. However the papal spokesman urged reporters to be responsible in their handling of unsubstantiated rumors.

Father Lombardi said that the three cardinals had submitted their report privately to Pope Benedict, and it would be passed on to his successor. The three prelates who investigated the “Vatileaks” scandal and prepared a thorough report—Cardinals Julian Herranz, Jozef Tomko, and Salvatore De Giorgi—will not be giving interviews or divulging details regarding the contents of the report, he said. Cardinal Herranz, who chaired the commission, confirmed: “The Pope is the only person we have reported to on this question.”

Lombardi: An invitation to accurate reporting on great moment in life of Church (Vatican Radio)

Pope Benedict retired after inquiry into 'Vatican gay officials', says paper (The Guardian)

(Excerpt) Read more at catholicculture.org ...

34 posted on 02/22/2013 9:01:11 AM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: rbmillerjr
Here's the little devil. You might have seen the sickening file. It's got 25K 'priests' included. God help us all.

Flynn Frank 1967 P Sued Diocesan Accused of seducing at least 3 women and of kissing and groping a young girl from ages 12-18. Police closed investigation 9/02. Diocese was notified at least 4 times between 1982 and 1997 that Flynn was seducing women. Flynn left diocese in 1997 and returned to native Ireland because of "weak heart". Working at seminary in Dublin in 2002 but retired by 2004. Diocese paid at least 2 settlements re Flynn. Named in 1 suit. Palm Beach, FL Source: Sun Sentinel 3.28.02; Palm Beach Post 4.5.02; Sun-Sentinel 4.19.02; Palm Beach Post 4.19.02; Sun Sentinel 4.24.02; Palm Beach Post 5.4.02; Dallas Morning News 6.12.02; Palm Beach Post 3.09.03; Palm Beach Post 2.28.04; Palm Beach Post 12.12.04; Palm Beach Post 12.12.04; Irish Independent 2.1.09

35 posted on 02/22/2013 9:26:36 AM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: STD

The Museum of Wholly Incomprehensible Posts just called. They would like you to be the featured speaker at this year’s annual banquet.


37 posted on 02/22/2013 9:40:24 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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To: Mr. Lucky

LOL


38 posted on 02/22/2013 9:42:38 AM PST by Pyro7480 (Viva Cristo Rey!)
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To: ExxonPatrolUs
5,000 Pedophiles in this USA database alone. Care to venture a worldwide guess? Why would Ratzinger halt all separate legal cases unless he personally investigated and authorized a settlement? After all he held the Office of Blah, Blah Pontificate Protector of the Faith. The former Grand Inquisitor of the Catholic Church was halting the entire legal process. If the financial settlements continued, the Church would become just as financially bankrupt as it now has become morally bankrupt.

Would you like me to post Ratzinger photo spread modeling ancient papal ermine capes, hats and dresses? Or, do you want to ignore the Papal OBVious?

39 posted on 02/22/2013 9:42:38 AM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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40 posted on 02/22/2013 9:53:07 AM PST by ExxonPatrolUs (The Ameritopian Motto: Gov The Sheeple, Buy The Sheeple, Bore The Sheeple)
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To: rbmillerjr
I would much rather be incomprehensible than degenerate and involved in destroying the faith 'of one of these little one's' It would be better these PEDOPHILE PRIEST"S were never born' A mill stone shall be placed around their necks and they will be cast into the ocean!

Pope is hiding another Pederast in Colombia, so he can't be Blackmailed in Rome where he has control over millions.

Pope moves top Vatican official Monsignor Ettore Balestrero to Colombia amid speculation over secret "Vatileaks" report

VATICAN CITY The pope has transferred a top official from the Vatican's secretariat of state to Colombia amid swirling media speculation about the contents of a confidential report into the Vatican's leaks scandal.

Vatican spokesman, the Rev. Federico Lombardi, insisted Friday that the transfer of Monsignor Ettore Balestrero had been months in the works and had nothing to do with the leaks investigation or what the Vatican considers baseless reporting.

Balestrero was named undersecretary of the Vatican's Foreign Ministry in 2009 and, among other tasks, has been a lead player in the Holy See's efforts to get on the "white list" of financially transparent countries. Pope Benedict XVI on Friday named him ambassador, or nunzio, to Colombia.

Italian newspapers for days have been rife with un-sourced reports of the contents of the dossier, which was presented to Benedict in December. It was prepared by three cardinals after they investigated the origins of the leaks.

How Vatican feuds may shape selection of pope American pope "fully possible," says Vatican consultant Pressed for time, pope may change conclave rules The scandal erupted last year after papers taken from the pope's desk were published. The pope's butler was convicted in October of aggravated theft.

Pope Benedict's resignation: How it's affecting Catholics The Vatican has refused to comment on the media reports, which have claimed the dossier was a factor in Benedict's decision to resign. Vatican officials have repeatedly dismissed the reports as baseless.Italian newspapers have suggested that Pope Benedict was shocked to learn from the cardinals' research of infighting among various factions in the Vatican's governing bureaucracy, the Curia. CBS News correspondent Allen Pizzey says some reports have suggested a homosexual lobby among church officials within the Curia.

Newspapers have even claimed blackmail of a sexual nature as the factions vie for power. Pizzey reports the cardinals' final dossier on the leaks scandal is expected to hit Pope Benedict's desk on Monday, but he's widely expected to leave it for his successor to address the problems detailed in the multitudinous pages. The leaks scandal erupted after the pope's butler stole the sensitive internal letters to the pontiff and passed them off to a journalist, who then published them in a blockbuster book.

The butler did it -- he admitted himself -- to expose the "evil and corruption" in the Vatican's frescoed halls that he believed was hidden from Benedict by those who were supposed to serve him. Ordinary Catholics might not think that dysfunction in the Apostolic Palace has any effect on their lives, but it does: The Curia makes decisions on everything from church closings to marriage annulments to the disciplining of pedophile priests.

Papal politics plays into the prayers the faithful say at Mass since missal translations are decided by committee in Rome. Donations the faithful make each year for the pope are held by a Vatican bank whose lack of financial transparency fueled bitter internal debate.

Jesus is capable to save anyone from out of any cult, or Heresy. Thank God!

Agape,

41 posted on 02/22/2013 2:55:39 PM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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To: STD

Fanciful speculation based on “reports” from “who only knows”.

I too am glad that Jesus Christ is unlimited in his ability to save heretics who follow Jean Calvin, Luther and others.

As Christians we have the unity and belief in Jesus Christ as our central focus of faith and trust Him to spread his Grace to those with hardened hearts, and those who seem to focus their energies and spiritual life to divide us from the Truth of Jesus Christ.


42 posted on 02/22/2013 5:16:59 PM PST by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obama's Socialist Agenda)
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To: STD
Peace Be Upon You,

Today, I was called into a more intimate walk with Jesus. Forgive me for any thoughtless comments about your church. I certainly think we'll be held accountable for our words and deeds. Regardless of denominations, let's be encouragers and supporters not doing the work of our ancient enemy. Agape, STanD

Papal resignation linked to inquiry into 'Vatican gay officials'

Great, pedophilia leaves officials easy targets for corruption and blackmail

. A potentially explosive report has linked the resignation of Pope Benedict XVI to the discovery of a network of gay prelates in the Vatican, some of whom – the report said – were being blackmailed by outsiders.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/feb/21/pope-retired-amid-gay-bishop-blackmail-inquiry

Pope Benedict resigned after being handed report into gay sex and corruption in Vatican, says newspaper http://www.news.com.au/world/pope-benedict-resigned-after-being-handed-report-into-gay-sex-and-corruption-in-vatican-says-newspaper/story-fndir2ev-1226583285843

Vatican conclave tainted by scandal before it even begins http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/vaticancityandholysee/9886454/Vatican-conclave-tainted-by-scandal-before-it-even-begins.html

43 posted on 02/24/2013 11:01:49 AM PST by STD ( Intellectuals, they are a wrecking crew, dismantling civilization)
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