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RANGEL PROPOSES BILLS TO REINSTATE DRAFT, REQUIRE WOMEN TO SIGN UP
breitbart ^

Posted on 02/17/2013 11:15:47 AM PST by traumer

Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY) wants to bring back the military draft and require women to register for the Selective Service. On Friday, Rangel reintroduced the so-called “draft bill,” known officially as “The National Universal Service Act” (H.R. 747), and “The All American Selective Service Act” (H.R. 748), which would require all women between 18 and 25 to register.

"Now that women can serve in combat they should register for the Selective Service alongside their male counterparts," Rangel said in a statement. "Reinstating the draft and requiring women to register for the Selective Service would compel the American public to have a stake in the wars we fight as a nation. We must question why and how we go to war, and who decides to send our men and women into harm's way." Rangel said if America’s young women were forced to fight, citizens would be more reticent to go to war.

"I served in Korea, and understand that sometimes war is inevitable," said Rangel. "However military engagement should be our last resort. If we must go to war, every American should be compelled to stop and think twice about whether it is worth sending our brothers and sisters, and sons and daughters to fight."

Rangel has been a longstanding proponent of bring back the draft. "Currently less than one percent of America's population is unfairly shouldering the burden of war," he explained.

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1 posted on 02/17/2013 11:15:50 AM PST by traumer
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To: traumer

This has always been the intent of the Democrats. The goal is to make the military another arm of the Democratic party.


2 posted on 02/17/2013 11:18:46 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults.)
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To: traumer

Muslims will balk and refuse to register because their allegiance is first to Islam and NOT to America.

RATS will relent and give the ROP a pass.


3 posted on 02/17/2013 11:20:30 AM PST by 353FMG ( I refuse to specify whether I am serious or sarcastic -- I respect FReepers too much.)
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To: 353FMG

Great idea. Would love to see this play out.


4 posted on 02/17/2013 11:22:00 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz (Got a problem? Nothing a drone strike can't fix.)
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To: traumer
***”I served in Korea,...”****

Wuz you in one of those black battalions that went over to the enemy?

5 posted on 02/17/2013 11:26:18 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: traumer

Rangel is nothing if not consistent. He’s been trying to reinstate the draft pretty much his entire congressional career. Always under the guise that a lack of opportunities force blacks to join the military in higher numbers than their percentage of the population. Funny thing is, in today’s Obamaconomy, the military is a pretty damn good job!


6 posted on 02/17/2013 11:26:23 AM PST by Drew68
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To: traumer

Those evil republicans!


7 posted on 02/17/2013 11:28:35 AM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: Jonty30

They’ve already done a pretty good job twisting the top officers, i.e. Joint Chiefs and top commanders to authorize what was unthinkable not long ago. Over the course of just ONE Administration, within the military it is now OK to be openly gay, and it’s OK to have women in combat. Not bad for a POTUS who loathes the military. And a disgrace to those who hold high positions which were more important to them than the future of the services or the country.


8 posted on 02/17/2013 11:31:01 AM PST by EDINVA
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

And I was in NAAM.......


9 posted on 02/17/2013 11:31:38 AM PST by traumer
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To: traumer; SkyPilot

Hey Skypilot,

Remeber I said I’d bookmark this discussion: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2982786/posts

I figured 6 months from then...it didn’t even take them that long to start talking about a draft...


10 posted on 02/17/2013 11:33:09 AM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: EBH

Amazing. I wonder why Rangel is so pro-draft?


11 posted on 02/17/2013 11:37:02 AM PST by SkyPilot
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12 posted on 02/17/2013 11:45:42 AM PST by RedMDer (Support Free Republic)
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To: traumer

I was speaking of RANGEL. I doubt you were old enough for Korea.

I was in Thailand and Okinawa myself in 1968 & 69.


13 posted on 02/17/2013 11:47:28 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Too old to cut the mustard any more.)
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To: Drew68

He certainly has been consistent. When the economy was doing well, circa, 2001-2008, he advocated for a draft. While the all-volunteer force was at reenlistment highs, he advocated for the draft. I suspect his agenda is to return to the 60s when white privilege meant minorities disproportionately were drafted, i.e., a grievance.

Charlie needs to concentrate on paying his fair share.


14 posted on 02/17/2013 11:50:50 AM PST by John Freeman
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To: SkyPilot

Go Charlie go. You liberals now go tell those screaming mothers that their 18 year old daughter must register and die for her country if need be!! And if those little girls refuse they must go to prison.This is why we defeated the ERA but they just go around it. Putting women in combat is absurd beyond insane but equal means equal— men die— women die too.Let’s go girls— get on the bus.


15 posted on 02/17/2013 11:58:04 AM PST by willardwx
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To: traumer
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You tell 'em Chuck!

16 posted on 02/17/2013 12:05:56 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Stop the world and let me off. The whole planet has gone insane.)
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To: willardwx

They wanted equality, now let them prove it.


17 posted on 02/17/2013 12:08:23 PM PST by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

OMG imagine the constituency of this d0uchebag.

America’s future is grim.


18 posted on 02/17/2013 12:11:14 PM PST by bicyclerepair (Zombies Eat Brains. Half of FL is safe.)
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To: traumer
“I served in Korea...” — Rep. Charles Rangel (D-NY)

And whose side were you on, Charlie? The NorKs or the Chicoms?

19 posted on 02/17/2013 12:13:36 PM PST by MasterGunner01
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To: traumer

ALL women should have to register. Men have had to register for some time. It’s time for women, ALL women, to catch up and truly be equal. And no exemptions for pregnancy and children. “If Uncle Sam wanted you to have a child, he would have issued you one.” You got the vote ladies, and you keep electing these Democrats. Now it’s time for the rest of your civics lesson. Women can take a bullet to the head just as easily as a man can. Put on your blue cords, girls! Come and join the Infantry!


20 posted on 02/17/2013 12:35:15 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: traumer

What does he care? His fat @ss is sitting in some beach chair asleep.


21 posted on 02/17/2013 12:43:17 PM PST by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: blueunicorn6

Your idea would be extremely costly just to prove a point. A draft is a terrible idea unless necessary. You get a bunch of substandard troops that don’t want to be there. Women can’t compete and many will get pregnant on purpose.


22 posted on 02/17/2013 12:59:45 PM PST by EEGator
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To: SkyPilot

Ok...you ready for the rest of the puzzle pieces?

Note the name proposed: National Universal Service

Does the phrase Universal Service sound even remotely familiar to something from 0bama’s first term? Here, does this help?

H.R.5741 - Universal National Service Act

To require all persons in the United States between the ages of 18 and 42 to perform national service, either as a member of the uniformed services or in civilian service in furtherance of the national defense and homeland security, to authorize the induction of persons in the uniformed services during wartime to meet end-strength requirements of the uniformed services, and for other purposes.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/111-h5741/show

I went looking for the current proposal text and it isn’t available ...yet. http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/house-bill/747/cosponsors

But if I recall correctly the last time included a civilian style “draft” as well as a military component. This isn’t anything new as another Freeper pointed out. Rangel has proposed this more than several times, each time though the new incarnation is more sinister than the last.

What did 0bama say about a civilian force just as well trained/armed etc. as our military? What do you think all those guns and bullet purchases are for?


23 posted on 02/17/2013 1:02:19 PM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: EBH

Let’s not forget about our wonderful Illegal Immigrants.

Equality for all!

If they want to stay in the U.S. then they should be made to serve in our military to gain citizenship. Let’s see how many would stay!


24 posted on 02/17/2013 1:43:36 PM PST by kas7351
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To: traumer

FUCR - it’s to do away with the military and raise State Militia’s


25 posted on 02/17/2013 1:47:55 PM PST by 11th_VA (JURY NULLIFICATION FOR UNCONSTITUTIONAL GUN LAWS !!!)
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To: SkyPilot

Rangel draft because he is an antiwar commie. He once said that if people were drafted there would be more people to protest against the war. At the time it was Gulf War 2. An all voluntary military means there are far fewer disgruntled service members and families. Most are proud to serve.

In other words, Rangel wants the draft to weaken the military. He is a commie like the rest of them.


26 posted on 02/17/2013 1:50:20 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: traumer
"Currently less than one percent of America's population is unfairly shouldering the burden of war," he explained.

Wasn't the cry from the left before the all volunteer military that blacks were unfairly shouldering the burden of war?

The more things change the more the Commies remain the same.

27 posted on 02/17/2013 2:26:45 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: traumer

Doesn’t Rangle do this every session?

(Or did someone already answer my question below?)


28 posted on 02/17/2013 2:27:10 PM PST by Peet (TurboTax: "So simple even a Secretary of the Treasury can use it!")
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To: SkyPilot
Amazing. I wonder why Rangel is so pro-draft?

Because he's over 35 and ineligible. He doesn't care.

29 posted on 02/17/2013 2:29:17 PM PST by hattend (Firearms and ammunition...the only growing industries under the Obama regime.)
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To: Gene Eric

Ping! #23


30 posted on 02/17/2013 3:07:05 PM PST by EBH ( The 2nd Amendment exists for times like this.)
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To: EEGator

It is a citizen’s duty to defend her country. If you get to vote, then you also get the right to take a bullet in the head. The fact that you might elect a stupid s**t, like Obama, could wind up costing you your life. That blood on the walls in Benghazi.....was that male American blood or female American blood? Do most American women even care about dead American Soldiers?


31 posted on 02/17/2013 3:33:41 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Dutch Boy

“Rangel draft because he is an antiwar commie. He once said that if people were drafted there would be more people to protest against the war. At the time it was Gulf War 2. An all voluntary military means there are far fewer disgruntled service members and families. Most are proud to serve.”

I believe he is a commie. I believe he is anti-war. But this statement, here I almost completely agree with. Men were proud to serve in WWII despite being drafted.


32 posted on 02/17/2013 3:37:35 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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To: castlegreyskull

Remember, he perceives the world through the prism of Vietnam’s antiwar movement. It is a tool to weaken the military. It all works like rust. It just eats away until it gets too weak to support itself.


33 posted on 02/17/2013 3:56:05 PM PST by Dutch Boy
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To: Dutch Boy

Remember, he perceives the world through the prism of Vietnam’s antiwar movement. It is a tool to weaken the military. It all works like rust. It just eats away until it gets too weak to support itself.

Thats the thing, the Vietnam anti-war movement worked. His logic I believe is well placed. If the pain of a war is universally felt by the public, would it still be pushed? While there is anti-war movements for every war. I am a veteran, and I felt I was well paid by the military. When we are discussion such major conflicts (Gulf Wars), I just wonder how different the discussion would be, if it was known that they would have to call americans from the inactive reserve. I don’t want soft diplomacy like we are currently seeing, but if the draft was part of the calculation of war planning in this country, I wonder if it would bring more power back to us.


34 posted on 02/17/2013 4:53:34 PM PST by castlegreyskull
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