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Of more than passing Curiosity
360 Cities - Mars Panorama - Curiosity rover: Martian solar day 177 ^ | Taken 06:14, 07/02/2013 | Andrew Bodrov

Posted on 02/23/2013 8:01:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2

I found a link to this INTERACTIVE VIEW of the Curiosity Rover on Mars on the ASTRONOMY PICTURE OF THE DAY ARCHIVE.

It is one of the most amazing uses of this technology I have seen. It is like standing beside the Rover on Mars and using a pair of binoculars.

Give it a try. It is really fun.

(Excerpt) Read more at 360cities.net ...


TOPICS: Astronomy; Astronomy Picture of the Day; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: apod; curiosity; mars; rover
Original 'flat' photo on APOD at http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130222.html

Link to INTERACTIVE VIEW is also at that location as "this spectacular interactive version"

1 posted on 02/23/2013 8:01:36 PM PST by UCANSEE2
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To: null and void

Is there an Astronomy ping list you know of that would be interested in this ?


2 posted on 02/23/2013 8:02:38 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Wonderful! Thanks very much.


3 posted on 02/23/2013 8:19:33 PM PST by YHAOS
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To: UCANSEE2

Very cool! Thanks for posting it!


4 posted on 02/23/2013 8:35:46 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: UCANSEE2
They cheated! Here's the first hole by itself from sol 180:

Here's the second hole next to the first hole from sol 182:

Here's the sol 177 image which is part of the panorama sequence:

Note the "scratch marks" on the adjacent rock where they did some preliminary drill tests. So, it's not a "sol 177" image. Never believe anybody.

5 posted on 02/23/2013 9:11:04 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Truth is a very elusive creature, no matter which planet is involved.


6 posted on 02/23/2013 9:14:37 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2; SunkenCiv

SunkenCiv runs the APOD ping list on FR.

While we’re on the subject, I’d like to be added to the APOD ping list.


7 posted on 02/23/2013 9:17:14 PM PST by null and void (Gun confiscation enables tyranny. Don't enable tyranny.)
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To: UCANSEE2

“What is truth? Nothing but a mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms.” - The Fried-Monster


8 posted on 02/23/2013 9:30:39 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: null and void

Thanks for the info.


9 posted on 02/23/2013 9:51:14 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: SunkenCiv

Thought this might be of interest to Freepers on your APOD PING list.


10 posted on 02/23/2013 10:13:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
Wow. It's worse than I thought. I got CURIOUS about how they patched that in, and started looking at it, and I noticed that there are gross disjunctures ( is that a word ? ) in the interactive panoroma. Here is a humble B&W circular NAVCAM panorama of the same location from sol 166 that I happen to have lying around :-)

Notice that the drill spot is to the left of center, in front of the "..URIOSITY" label on the front panel. ( Please don't confuse the breaks in this PTgui generated image with the sort of photoshopping that is evident in the APOD. ) In the APOD this whole area is drawn over and patched in front of the "diving board" or "duckbill", as you will.

I'm impressed by the artfulness of it, but chagrined that this would be passed off as any kind of scientific representation.

11 posted on 02/23/2013 10:39:24 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
I made a "spherical" panorama from the sol 177 MAHLI images, and here is an excerpt of it :

Now here is a comparable screen shot of the APOD interactive panorama. You can see that it is a real mess compared to the accurately composed PTgui version:

I don't know what they think they're doing.

12 posted on 02/24/2013 12:17:49 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

Well, wait a second! ... this production doesn’t have any association with NASA, does it? I was distracted by the mention of the APOD, which is NASA sponsored, if I’m not mistaken. Anyway, that’s a load off my mind! People can do whatever they want these images, but be advised, this interactive panorama is not an accurate representation, as I believe I’ve shown.


13 posted on 02/24/2013 12:51:37 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: null and void; UCANSEE2; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; ...

Thanks for the pings null and void and UCANSEE2!


14 posted on 02/24/2013 4:08:48 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: null and void; UCANSEE2; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; ...

Thanks for the pings null and void and UCANSEE2!


15 posted on 02/24/2013 4:09:28 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: null and void; UCANSEE2; brytlea; cripplecreek; decimon; bigheadfred; KoRn; Grammy; married21; ...

Thanks for the pings null and void and UCANSEE2!


16 posted on 02/24/2013 4:09:39 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SunkenCiv
The funny thing is that its only marginally warmer in some parts of Siberia than recent Martian nights.

A record of some -72(f) in Siberia vs -76 during the Martian night.

Via twitter

Curiosity Rover ‏@MarsCuriosity How chilly is chilly? The high is about -1C, with the lows in the -60s (or 30F high, -76F low).
17 posted on 02/24/2013 4:34:00 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SunkenCiv

Wait a minute. I was mistaken. Its been considerably colder in Siberia than its been on mars. Joe Bastardi posted this link last night.

http://notrickszone.com/2013/02/23/northern-hemisphere-sets-new-all-time-record-cold-temperature-96-1f-in-oymyakon-siberia/

Northern Hemisphere Sets New, All-Time Record Cold Temperature: -96.1°F In Oymyakon Siberia !!


18 posted on 02/24/2013 4:37:36 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

Siberia has air to breathe though.


19 posted on 02/24/2013 4:57:35 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: dr_lew

Well... since the Martian soil looks pretty much like a dried up riverbed anyway, it wasn’t what interested me .

AND... a lot of work was done to eliminate the ‘arm’ which held the camera so it wouldn’t show up in the photos and this interactive view, which might have led to obscuring certain details of the ground.

HOWEVER, the view of the rover itself is awesome, and it’s not like the ‘view’ was meant to be used to do scientific research on the ingredients of the soil based on the image seen by the layman.

It’s just for entertainment, and in that respect, it is awesome.


20 posted on 02/24/2013 6:23:41 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
AND... a lot of work was done to eliminate the ‘arm’ which held the camera so it wouldn’t show up in the photos and this interactive view, which might have led to obscuring certain details of the ground.

Not so. Here is the PTgui stitched panorama of the raw sol 177 images. The overlapping views eliminate the arm naturally.

You can see that what's missing is the full horizon, so the image maker wrapped it a little tighter and stitched a piece in from other sources.

21 posted on 02/24/2013 2:52:37 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: UCANSEE2
You're lucky I saw your post. I posted that very same interactive 360 degree image o Mars made within days of Curiosity's landing . A 360-Degree ‘Street View’ From Mars:Awesome 360 Degree Images of Mars Taken by 'Curiosity' Universe Today ^ | August 15, 2012 | John Williams Posted on Wednesday, August 15, 2012 6:21:53 AM by lbryce

A 360-Degree ‘Street View’ From Mars:Awesome 360 Degree Images of Mars Taken by 'Curiosity' http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2918701/posts"

Direct Link

A 360-Degree ‘Street View’ From Mars:Awesome 360 Degree Images of Mars Taken by 'Curiosity' http://www.universetoday.com/96793/a-360-degree-street-view-from-mars

22 posted on 02/24/2013 4:14:10 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: dr_lew
so the image maker wrapped it a little tighter and stitched a piece in from other sources.

And that is what you are complaining about ?

23 posted on 02/24/2013 7:32:15 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: lbryce
Thanks for the info and links back to your thread, your sources. They had three different Rover panoramas to view. Awesome.

I posted that very same interactive 360 degree image o Mars made within days of Curiosity's landing

Well... it's not the very same image at all. Yours was from Day 2 and mine was from Day 170, iirc.

All of them are amazing, aren't they ?

24 posted on 02/24/2013 7:41:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: dr_lew

Since you seem to be quite an expert on the technical aspects of the Martian Soil, I wonder if you could view the first panorama on the list at the URL below, and tell me if you find any ‘glitches’.

http://www.360pano.eu/mars/?lang=1


25 posted on 02/24/2013 7:47:11 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
I thought you were referring to the same thing. As soon as I saw your request, I stopped everything to track it down asap without wasting a moment. I know how it feels to anxiously wait for something and stopped reading to start searching in an effort to get it out to you with not a moment to lose.

But there's another video almost as awesome actually even more awesome, I'd say the video of curiosity falling down on its approach to landing is even more of a thrill than the 360 panorama. Filmed in super HD .Please get back to me and give me your breathless reaction to watching Curiosity fall and land flawlessly. Please don't disappoint me.

Mars Curiosity Descent - Ultra HD 30fps Smooth-Motion

Mars Curiosity Descent - Ultra HD 30fps Smooth-Motion

26 posted on 02/24/2013 8:09:02 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: UCANSEE2

When he wrapped it tighter he had to make a seam in the landscape where he stretched out the mid and far ground and reattached it to the foreground, of course this changes the appearance and landmarks in the vicinity of Curiosity.

And yes that’s what I’m complaining about: it’s not a faithful representation.


27 posted on 02/24/2013 9:03:51 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: UCANSEE2

Of course, that’s just a joke, which is not the same thing as misrepresenting a creative pastiche as a sol 177 panorama.


28 posted on 02/24/2013 9:11:51 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

OK... so the dirt is a bit wrong in places. What did you think about the rover and the landscape view ?


29 posted on 02/25/2013 5:51:25 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: dr_lew
Of course, that’s just a joke,

Maybe.

Here's another joke.


30 posted on 02/25/2013 5:53:31 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: lbryce

Other than YOUTUBE stopping every 8 seconds , it is a pretty cool video. I’ve seen it many times.


31 posted on 02/25/2013 6:02:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

I give up. it seems there’s nothing in my bag of tricks that will impress you.


32 posted on 02/25/2013 7:01:53 PM PST by lbryce (BHO:"Now, I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds by way Oppenheiner at Trinity NM)
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To: lbryce
it seems there’s nothing in my bag of tricks that will impress you.

That's OK. I appreciate the back and forth sometimes much more than the 'tricks'.

May I try to impress you?

Earth at night from the ISS

33 posted on 02/25/2013 8:59:14 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: lbryce

I just found this and had to share it with you.

http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap130226.html


34 posted on 02/25/2013 9:30:35 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
OK... so the dirt is a bit wrong in places.

You know, I was thinking about this, and I'm glad you replied, because I didn't want to reply to myself.

I recently read THE SWERVE by Stephen Greenblatt, about the discovery in the early 1400's by one Poggio Bracciolini of the only surviving transcipt of Lucretius' De Rerum Natura ... On the Nature of Things. A fascinating tale, but I will try to progress to my point.

In the course of its telling the author comes upon Giordano Bruno, ultimately a martyr to free thought, and describes a work of his which mocked the idea of omniscient Providence, in which Bruno satirically described the god Mercury dictating the minutia of everyday existence "That Vasta, wife of Albbenzio Savolino, ... shall burn fifty seven hairs for having let the curling iron get too hot, ..." and so on.

This is deemed by the author as an expression of rebellion against an oppressive theology, as I suppose it was. Ironically though, your thoroughly modern correspondent has always been sympathetically contemplative of the idea that "even the hairs on your head are numbered". To me it is an expression of objective reality. There's nowhere to hide, you see. What is, is. So hew closely to it.

I thought of this in my chagrin at your cavalier dismissal of the entire Martian landscape as uninteresting. To me, this is supremely selfish and egotistical. Are you worth more than Mars? Do you have that many hairs on your head?

35 posted on 02/26/2013 12:43:05 AM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew
Thank you for the the response.

...at your cavalier dismissal of the entire Martian landscape as uninteresting.

I don't know how you got that out of what I said.

I asked you other than your technical challenges, did you enjoy the ROVER and the MARTIAN LANDSCAPE (... implying "as much as I did").

The fact that you can zoom in to the far horizon or to nearby rocks is awesome. Even IF it is not 100% realistic.

How did you come up with the idea I was 'dismissing the landscape'? You seem to be the one who is so focused on the minor imperfections, and missing the beautiful view, if we are to believe your comments.

36 posted on 02/26/2013 11:12:22 AM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2

Well, I complained that the panorama moved around various features, which to me is the landscape, and it’s certainly not “soil” or “dirt”, and then you said it looked like a dried river bed and it “WASN”T WHAT INTERESTED ME”. It’s like you don’t even SEE the landscape.

True you referred to the “martian landscape” but you know, it isn’t the martian landscape, it’s a hodge-podge. I want to see what’s there, not some fabrication.

It’s a fascinating place, and as Curiosity moves around, I like to look for the features that were closer or more distant in other views. This is a lot harder to do than you’d think because prominent nearby feature can appear very differently, or even be hidden, from a location displaced by 30 feet or so. But you can build up a sense of place by learning various reference points.

I was very impressed by the cleaned up descent video, which was done scientifically to bring out details and smooth the motion of the descent. It remains entirely faithful to the actual view, though.

There is also an interactive panorama from images taken at the landing site, which I believe is a faithful representation. The image coverage was more comprehensive in that case, so that guy didn’t have to do violence to the scenery to get the cool effects, I guess.

The striking effect of these interactive pano’s is produced by the ability to pan while keeping a wide field of view. You can zoom in and out on a fixed panorama made with full resolution, and this is nice, but it is not nearly as impressive as the interactive jobs.


37 posted on 02/26/2013 3:11:12 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

38 posted on 02/26/2013 6:20:22 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
Here's a nice little poop that Curiosity took on the ground ( click to enlarge ) :


39 posted on 02/26/2013 8:20:04 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: dr_lew

nice brick work!

uh, hang on


40 posted on 02/26/2013 8:30:31 PM PST by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: dr_lew

Wait until the EPA sees that.


41 posted on 03/01/2013 9:43:10 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: dr_lew

What I want to know is how the Rover is able to make tire marks in the dirt, without the marks continuing in one direction or the other ?

Or are those toolmarks instead of tire marks ?


42 posted on 03/01/2013 9:48:54 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: dr_lew
Nothing but a mobile army of metaphors, metonyms, and anthropomorphisms

Is all we are, or all we seem, but a dream within a dream?

43 posted on 03/01/2013 9:55:09 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (The monsters are due on Maple Street)
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To: UCANSEE2
Here's a "smaller scale" ( i.e. larger range ) view of the scene of the crime, as it might be called with poetic justification.

This was part of Curiosity's "crushing campaign" which was actually described ( without using that actual term, of course ) in the JPL dispatches. This particular "crush" was performed some sols ago, but as you can see Curiosity backed up to the right and advanced to its current position along a slightly different line. It was supported by the rock you see at top right when it dropped down, then rolled back up on it, leaving the isolated "crush" and track mark. It's actually operating in pretty close quarters at the drill site, very much like a bull in a china shop. I believe that is the right rear wheel that you see, and which did the deed.

44 posted on 03/01/2013 10:21:00 PM PST by dr_lew
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To: UCANSEE2

I thought I knew something of Poe, but I didn’t know that one, so thanks are due for that.

I think the answer has to be yes. As Sir Arthur Eddington observed, “It seems more and more that the Universe is not a great machine, but a great thought.”


45 posted on 03/01/2013 10:51:02 PM PST by dr_lew
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