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Advice: Need notebook/laptop NOT made in China
Self | 3/3/2013 | Self

Posted on 03/03/2013 5:17:13 PM PST by Lexinom

Looking to spend $400-$700 for a decent notebook to be used primarily for software development and graphics. Need some speed and horsepower, and durability. These things typically last me about five years, and this one here (a Sony Vaio) is nearing the end of the line.

Brands you'd recommend? Lenovo is highly regarded but very, very Chinese. I'd like to stay away from that. And I hate Apple with a passion.

This will be running Linux.


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To: Lexinom

I also have an ASUS (a - sooos). I bought a laptop 3 years ago and bought my spousal unit one last year. Great warranty too.

The only “problem” I’ve had is with the out of the box adobe and java software loaded in the WIN7 image. If you are going with Linux, you may avoid that.


41 posted on 03/03/2013 6:17:22 PM PST by llevrok (Keep your arms out. It makes it harder for them to throw a net over you.)
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To: South40

>> I use Dell but I would never recommend them.

I use Dell but would recommend them. Nearly all the support cases I had over the last 10 years were handled quickly and without resistance.


42 posted on 03/03/2013 6:17:53 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Lexinom

I had an Everex laptop made in Fremont California by Filipina -American assembly workers in 1998. But the company was Chinese owned by a brother and sister who fought all the time and stole all the salespeoples` accounts for themselves so they wouldn`t have to pay any commissions.


43 posted on 03/03/2013 6:22:05 PM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Marchione.)
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To: whitedog57

My Toshiba is made in China

It will be an interesting challenge to find one that isn’t for that price range.

I think possibly Alienware and Puget but they are way above that price.


44 posted on 03/03/2013 6:25:39 PM PST by mnehring
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To: Lexinom

Hats off to you for taking the time to locate and buy one NOT made in China. As an added bonus your purchase will probably be less likely to have a back door built into it. We all need to stop feeding the monster and buy things made here or at least in friendly countries.


45 posted on 03/03/2013 6:26:25 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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To: RightOnline

Ditto, I had a HP tablet that almost made it a year. It is not even good for boat anchor as my boat sank with all my guns aboard.


46 posted on 03/03/2013 6:27:33 PM PST by razorback-bert (I'm in shape. Round is a shape isn't it?)
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To: Lexinom

IMHO, the Lenovo Think Pad is the best notebook out there, bar none. Yes, it’s made in China, but so what? You won’t find a better one and their support is US based.


47 posted on 03/03/2013 6:28:16 PM PST by upchuck (nobama fact #69: For each job created by the nobama administration, 75 people went on food stamps.)
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To: Lexinom
Forget about the China issue for that price range.

I wouldn't touch an HP, Toshiba, Dell...those things are overpriced or just carp. Asus is a really good company and generally make superior product for any price point. If you are buying a desktop, buy Asus motherboard.

Asus laptops are good for the price point but are not the easiest things to repair if you have problems.

Almost all the laptops/brands are coming off the exact same lines, with the same components. One day the line will build Dell, the next, someone else. It really comes down to the motherboard and its design and how much the brand is willing to pay to put it together.

We have been buying Acer laptops for at least 10 years. Not sure how many that is but enough to say with all those purchased we have had hardware problems with less than 1% of them (2 out of hundreds and hundreds...one Acer even covered out of warranty...we had to go through their wholesale channel to get to their service people). Acer's have been rock solid for us.

Acers also have very little bloatware (like HP, Compaq, Dell, Toshiba...) so your computer won't have a bunch of carp running in the background.

Get a third generation Core i3 processor (can't remember the product numbers) for general. For graphics, get a Core i5. If you need heavy duty processing, Core i7 (I think this will be out of your price range). Going up in the processor capability chews battery life.

Stick with an Intel Core series processor and avoid AMDs. AMDs are cheaper for a reason. The processor chip or motherboard (or both) burn up a lot...for every brand.

If you need graphics, look for something with a separate video/graphics card and at least 4GB of RAM on the motherboard.

Get something that has USB 3 built into it.

If you can still find one with Windows 7, get it. Avoid Win8. I am still not that thrilled with Windows 64 bit architecture, yet. Their are still some hardware glitches and some internet stuff may or may not work with 64 bit. We generally reload Windows in 32 bit (keycodes work for both 32 and 64 bit versions). For almost all users, their is very little gained by the 64 bit, other than more than 3GB of RAM.

48 posted on 03/03/2013 6:35:28 PM PST by jwsea55
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To: manc
Although I like the specs of the Lenovo a little better than the comparably-priced ASUS, I do not like this one bit:

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240088431/Prison-like-conditions-for-workers-making-IBM-Dell-HP-Microsoft-and-Lenovo-products

49 posted on 03/03/2013 6:35:42 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: razorback-bert
"....as my boat sank with all my guns aboard."

Isn't that an odd coincidence........I mean, exactly the same thing happened to....well.....

50 posted on 03/03/2013 6:42:18 PM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: goldstategop
I know :(

The Lenovo E430 ThinkPad barely edges out the ASUS S405CA-RH51. Same price. The ASUS comes with a built-in 24GB solid-state drive (great for compiling code), but the Lenovo is 2.6Ghz processing speed vs 1.7GHz. Both have 1600Mhz FSB.

Still, I'd be a hypocrite if I chose Lenovo for a small performance edge and ignored this:

http://www.computerweekly.com/news/2240088431/Prison-like-conditions-for-workers-making-IBM-Dell-HP-Microsoft-and-Lenovo-products

51 posted on 03/03/2013 6:42:41 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: jwsea55
Should have been:

Acers also have very little bloatware (unlike HP, Compaq, Dell, Toshiba...) so your computer won't have a bunch of carp running in the background.

52 posted on 03/03/2013 6:46:32 PM PST by jwsea55
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To: jwsea55
I'll be slapping Ubuntu onto the thing as soon as I get it home.

Linux: The Ultimate Windows Service Pack

53 posted on 03/03/2013 6:50:22 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

None


54 posted on 03/03/2013 6:52:26 PM PST by bigbob
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To: Lexinom

I understand that you hate Apple, but they are looking to move some manufacturing back to the US.

So you have to ask yourself, what’s more important.


55 posted on 03/03/2013 6:54:05 PM PST by MS from the OC (Obama taking credit for killing OBL is like Nixon taking credit for landing on the moon, John Bolton)
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To: plain talk
Of course some components will be made there. It's unavoidable, sadly, as the Unions are steadily killing production in America.

HP has slipped in recent years though, in general, I'd agree with you. Had a Pavilion until 2008. In 2007 the power jack wriggled a fracture into the main board. I squeezed another year of life out of it by soldering the power wires directly to the motherboard (and re-soldering periodically).

Sony, to their credit, does not mount the power jack directly to the motherboard, though the jacks still suck. Power jack failure is what's plaguing this Vaio I'm using now. Oh, and there's the fact the left touchpad button no longer works (no dragging capability).

56 posted on 03/03/2013 6:55:12 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: jwsea55

I used to use an Acer breadboard when I was in college studying electronics. The “little bloatware” sure is appealing, but I think I’ll be putting Ubuntu on whatever I get, overwriting whatever’s there.


57 posted on 03/03/2013 6:57:07 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: MS from the OC
I hate Apple because I grew up and learned to program (my source of income today) on the Apple IIe and Apple IIGS. Apple neglected these product lines in favor of the Mac. I cannot ever forgive them for that. My switch to PC was a reluctant one. My only real "home" today is Linux, which is not tied to any hardware platform (hence it now powers the Macs).

Your point is well-taken, however.

58 posted on 03/03/2013 6:59:55 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

You can probably go on Ebay and find an old IBM or HP with an 80286 CPU. Those weren’t made in China.


59 posted on 03/03/2013 7:00:04 PM PST by fso301
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To: fso301

Taiwan is not China - at least not the China I’m hoping to minimize in my purchase.


60 posted on 03/03/2013 7:04:38 PM PST by Lexinom
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