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Marcott’s hockey stick uptick mystery – it didn’t used to be there
Watts Up With That? ^ | March 14, 2013 | Anthony Watts

Posted on 03/16/2013 9:10:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

At Climate Audit, Something odd has been discovered about the provenance of the work associate with the Marcott et al paper. It seems that the sharp uptick wasn’t in the thesis paper Marcott defended for his PhD, but is in the paper submitted to Science.

Steve McIntyre writes:

Reader ^ drew our attention to Marcott’s thesis (see chapter 4 here. Marcott’s thesis has a series of diagrams in an identical style as the Science article. The proxy datasets are identical.

However, as Jean S alertly observed, the diagrams in the thesis lack the closing uptick of the Science. Other aspects of the modern period also differ dramatically.

Here is Figure 1C of the Science article.

figure 1C

Now here is the corresponding diagram from the (Marcott) thesis:


thesis-short1

The differences will be evident to readers. In addition to the difference in closing uptick, important reconstruction versions were at negative values in the closing portion of the thesis graphic, while they were at positive values in the closing portion of the Science graphic.

I wonder what accounts for the difference.

Read the full report at Climate Audit

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This story just got  a lot more interesting. I wonder if we don’t have a situation like with Yamal, and sample YAD06 which when included, skewed the whole set. Perhaps there was some screening in the thesis and that didn’t include part of the proxy datasets, or later for the Science paper maybe there was some Gergis sytyle screening that made hockey sticks pop out. It might also be some strange artifact of processing, perhaps some Mannian style math was introduced. Who knows at this point? All we know is that one paper is not like the other, and one produces a hockey stick and the other does not.

Some additional detective work is sorely needed to determine why this discrepancy exists and if anyone in the peer review process asked any similar questions.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Science; Weather
KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarminghoax

1 posted on 03/16/2013 9:10:16 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach
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fyi

Wonder if MarCott's bank account has had a dramatic change recently? !

2 posted on 03/16/2013 9:13:17 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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eworrall1 says:

March 14, 2013 at 11:37 pm

An even more intriguing possibility – perhaps the reviewers demanded Marcott add the hockey stick, as a requirement for their approval.

Marcott obviously knew the hockey stick was bogus – otherwise he would have added it to his PHD thesis paper.

3 posted on 03/16/2013 9:15:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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4 posted on 03/16/2013 9:21:37 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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5 posted on 03/16/2013 9:24:01 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

there are different levels of bad things you can do as a scientist.

the first is to look at data and draw the wrong conclusion- that is forgiveable if it is an honest mistake and this is the point of peer-review (among other things)

the next level is looking at data and manipulating it to give you the results you want. This is unforgiveable and should get you fired and out of your fiel.

But the absolute worst, is to delete original raw data because it does not support what you want, and just make up the results you want. This borders on criminal because you can no longer even check the raw data- it is knowledgs permanently lost. It is a waste of all the money spent gathering that data.

The last thing is what these “scientists” did and they should no longer have jobs- why they do is beyong comprehension.


6 posted on 03/16/2013 9:26:04 PM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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Severian says:

March 15, 2013 at 2:27 am

Ultimately it doesn’t matter in the “real” world. They’ve accomplished their goal, generating scary headlines in all the usual suspect media outlets. The Warmistas know how to play this game very well, it matters not whether or not it’s right, or if someone else later discredits it, that will never get any significant air time in the media. The goal is to produce AGW confirming headlines that allow politicians the support they need to instigate a carbon tax, with the emphasis on tax, which is what the whole game is about. Post normal science indeed. That and ensure more funding for said “scientists.”

7 posted on 03/16/2013 9:27:12 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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It was like the whole set of faculty reviewers were in on the scam.....

There should be some serious repercussions....

8 posted on 03/16/2013 9:30:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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From the comments...a link...


9 posted on 03/16/2013 9:34:38 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach ((The Global Warming Hoax was a Criminal Act....where is Al Gore?))
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I agree with your anti Gorebull warming stance. I have asked you repeatedly I private to PLEASE TAKE ME OFF YOUR PING LIST.

Now I have to do it in public. It is spam to me.


10 posted on 03/17/2013 3:46:28 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Thanks Ernest.


11 posted on 03/17/2013 9:17:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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