Posted on 03/20/2013 10:33:58 PM PDT by flyingx
I visited 2 stores looking for 22LR ammo. None available. Both store reps say government is buying ammo. Is this so? Why? Are manufacturers unable to meet demand? I try to keep informed but I would not think that one cannot purchase a couple of boxes of 22 shells. Appreciate any information.
That is easily reversed by having Congress designate the ammo “surplus” and putting out for sale at pennies on the dollar.
Ammo’s gone through the roof as have magazines (when you can find them). I’m hoping the supply is beginning to catch up since my Mark II mags are finally shipping after a 2 month delay (although I checked Ruger’s site and they’re not currently available - so maybe not).
I have a hunting and a fishing forum in TX and we have our classified sections. What I’ve been seeing is really no shortage of ammo it’s hitting the shelves as fast as it can, but we have a ton of people buying it up and then turning around a resaling it in the classifieds. Our local Walmart gets hit every morning by the same bunch and it will be for sale on facebook trading within hours.
There’s still a lot of what I like to call, “Motivated Panic Buying” where most of the outlets that sell ammo/guns have lines of 70..80 people 2 hours before the stores open.[they figured out when the trucks come in]
We have time and quantity limits on most sales but, if you’re persistent most everything can be had.
It’s getting better here in Texas.
Illinois:
Last week I stopped at Wal-Mart to get an FOID (Firearm Owners IDentification Card) application form. I was told that I had o go online and download the form because the Illinois State Police had informed them they could no longer dispense them in the store. Has anyone else had this same experience?
My god that is truly a police state!
ping
Yes the government is buying ammo. Are they buying so much that it is affecting the supply for the rest of us? No.
Just look at what you are looking for... When was the last time you heard about the feds buying .22? Yep that’s right. Never! That stuff is like gold. When you can find it a brick of 333 or 550 is going for around $80 except at Walmart they haven’t upped their prices. What is generating this shortage is the millions of of us who are now buying ammo every time we can. The lines at Walmart are crazy. People standing in line in the morning for a couple of hours waiting for ammo to be put out...
It’s all of us snapping up everything we can get our hands on.
Found some last week in a small gun shop in Maricopa, AZ - Winchester Wildcats, 50 round box for $10.00, limit two boxes per customer. They said that the 5,000 round they got in the day before was the first they had received in 3 months and was 1/4th what they had ordered in December.
On a happier note, I found 60 rounds of .223 at Walmart for $24.09 and I now know the trucks here come in on Tuesday and Thursday. No ammo Tuesday but tonight, maybe we get lucky again. Things do seem to be loosening up a little.
The gov is not buying .22 ammunition, they are buying heavier calibre ammo. That is a completely different, and more frightening problem. This is just hoarding. .22 is now available at my gun store, 1500 rounds for $90. DOUBLE what it was a year ago. At those prices, and they are selling it, the manufacturers will keep the .22 coming, people will back off in the hoarding and the price will come down. But it is unconstitutional for the government to buy up ammunition which affects the right to bear arms...Mark Levin explains this fully.
They are doing what a good merchant will do during a shortage....
Making sure the customers that buy a weapon can also purchase ammo...very understandable...
Where you been?
This has been discussed on FR about 100 times.
No it is not the government’s fault - especially 22.
Did you make that up or did someone tell you taht?
The machines that make 22 cannot be “retooled” to make crnterfire ammo. Get a grip. ATK makes over 4 million rounds of 22 a day in their plant. It is all being sold and delivered. Their address is on this link at the top right. Call and ask for yourself.
http://www.atk.com/business-groups/atk-sporting/
Because there is a shortage due to the HUGE increase in gun purchases. Folks are afraid of this government, of this economy, and are arming themselves.
The .22 LR is the cheapest ammo out there. Hence it’s popularity. It’s great for practicing.
Just bought 100 rounds of 5.56 NATO at CTD this morning $0.95/ round. Looking for some 32 APC ammo, none at CTD
For Later
Gander Mountain routinely does that.
Have a listed price online and get to the store different price, or have a price listed on the shelf then when you get to the checkout it’s a different price.
I don’t have a problem causing a “bit of a ruckus” in the store to get the advertised price.
I just had 500-rnds .45cal ACP 165gr HP delivered UPS from Cor-Bon/Glazer, this week. (All other .45 is 230gr) 4 weeks from order to delivery. Luckily, I’ve been stockpiling for 10yrs, and have over 300k rnds for 7 calibers & 12ga. My FFL just got in a 15 pallet delivery yesterday, and it’ll be gone by Sunday.
Think about this. The contracts so far have called for 1.6 billion rounds to the govt (non-military). Divide 1.6 billion by 80 million gun owners. That's 20 rounds per gun owner. Now, think about this - If only 10 percent of gun owners out there were actively seeking ammunition, that would be 200 rounds per gun owner looking to buy. How many of us know gun owners with fewer than 200 rounds of ammo?
The real cause of the shortage is us civilians (both legitimate purchasers and opportunists) purchasing boat loads of ammo either out of expectation of bad things happening, or a quick profit. I can tell you I've found everything I want locally, and enough to satisfy me for now, but it took some time, patience and friends letting me know where stuff was being sold, and vice-versa. Just look at the runs on the gun shops/ammo sellers, look at the stories on gun shows. Most of them posted here on FR showing lines and lines of people all buying what they can get their hands on.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think the non-military side of the fed guv needs this much ammo (works out to five rounds per civilian), but the real cause of the shortage is all of us. Before this panic buying, I could go into just about any store in town and buy at least 200 rounds of anything I shot, and within the next day or so, that 200 rounds would be re-stocked.
Stupid way to treat a customer. There is no way I would buy a gun from them to begin with if they won’t allow repeat business for the ammo.
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