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Clinic escort: woman who had 10 abortions is “empowered”
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Posted on 03/24/2013 3:17:21 PM PDT by Morgana

An abortion clinic escort, whose blog can be found here, wrote the following in a post on March 18:

There are times a client and/or companion is so empowered they instantly gain my admiration.

What is she so impressed by? She goes on to explain:

The companion [of the woman who was having an abortion] got out of the car first. E [the pro-lifer] was hovering right behind me ready to start shaming. I was able to explain the vests and offer to escort them before he began his spiel. E handed the companion some literature. When I explained he was a protester, they handed it right back to him.

cutepregnantThe companion and I escorted the client down the sidewalk. We were in a line: E, companion, client and me. E started with “Women regret their abortions. Don’t lead her into this place.” The companion waved dismissively at him and said, “Oh, I know all about abortion. I have had 10 already.” There was a pause then E leaned over towards the client and said “You don’t have to go into that place.” The client turned to me and said, “I am not listening to him.” I replied that was best.

It was great to witness these two completely ignoring the words meant to hurt and shame them…I felt privileged to witness this calm confidence.

Elsewhere in her blog, the clinic escort talks about sidewalk counselors offering to help the women with adoption or other alternatives. Pro-lifers often offer free help to pregnant women outside abortion clinics. To the escort, this is “shaming.”

It’s takes a person who has embraced a truly hardcore pro-choice position to consider a woman who has had 10 abortions empowered. Is this the ideal world for clinic workers and escorts? A world where women use abortion as birth control, having multiple abortions and then getting pregnant again and again? How can repeatedly having an invasive surgical procedure that raises the risk of ectopic pregnancy, premature birth, and miscarriage be empowering?

According to the Guttmacher Institute, 47% of all abortions are repeat abortions. Among the women who have repeat abortions, 59% have had one previous abortion (and are getting their second), 25% have had two (and are getting their third), and 15% have had at least three (and are getting their fourth or more).

In an article about repeat abortions, pro-choice author Jennifer Baumgardner (who started the “I had an abortion” T-shirt campaign) says the following:

In the clinic world, repeat visitors are called, not unkindly, “frequent fliers.” The reason that casual term is not an insult is simply due to how common multiple abortions are. …

Virtually everyone I’ve spoken to was working the clinic has a story of one patient who had not two or three abortions, but 20 or more despite contraceptive counseling with each clinic visit. (1)

A clinic worker participated in a question-and-answer session on Reddit.

One reader asked the unnamed clinic worker the following question:

Q. Have you seen women get several abortions? Or use this as a method of birth control?

A. Unfortunately yes. Their contraceptive choices are always stressed at these appointments but some women simply do not wish to use birth control.

In an interview on Nightline on January 11, 2006, Martin Bashir spoke with abortionist William Harrison.

Harrison comments, “I’ve had lots of patients who come in for second, third, fourth, fifth, even one who had nine abortions.”

When asked, “Is that really appropriate?,” he replied: “If she needs nine abortions, yeah. … Basically, abortion is a method of birth control. You know, it’s not the best method of birth control. But all it does is stop the birth of a baby that a woman doesn’t want at a time she doesn’t want it.”

A clinic worker who responded to a post on The Abortioneers about repeat abortion said the following in response to the blog writer’s question about whether repeat abortions made clinic workers uncomfortable:

I dunno, the more I talk to people about it I come to find that some women simply don’t want to use hormonal/unnatural contraception. Period. And these are not always poor, disadvantage, unaware women. Just as responsible and knowledgeable women make the choice to have abortions, those same women sometimes choose not to use anything. And that’s still OK!

I tried to explain this once to a friend who just couldn’t believe it, and understandably so. But I think it’s unsafe to typecast the “repeat offenders[.]“

The blogger herself states:

The patients who have had more than three abortions are few and far between. But, the fact of the matter is there are women who will present in a clinic five, six, seven times for a procedure. This makes a lot of people, myself included, uncomfortable on some level.

A different clinic worker who writes for the same blog said the following in another post:

Sometimes, just to feel people out, I ask, “How do you feel about repeat abortions?” Some people will answer, “One is OK, but more than that is just irresponsible,” which I may use as a teaching opportunity, or I might just walk away. It depends on my mood. But one person answered, “It’s an expensive type of birth control, but if that’s a woman’s preference, that’s fine with me.” That counted as a good answer.

Is this the true pro-choice litmus test, then – embracing the use of abortion as a form of birth control? The logical pro-choice answer would be yes. If there’s nothing wrong with abortion, if it is simply the removal of tissue or the emptying of the uterus, there is no reason why women shouldn’t have one or two or 10 abortions. But some clinic workers, who are not fully hardened to the reality of abortion, do feel uncomfortable when the same women come in again and again.

The blog “RealChoice” by Christina Dunigan quotes a letter a pro-choice columnist received from a nurse who works in an abortion clinic that does late-term abortions. First, the clinic worker writing the letter, identified only as Kay, talks about the typical abortion done at her clinic. In the words of the columnist:

Every so often, a letter arrives in a columnist’s mailbag that throws a hand grenade right into the middle of a long-held view…. The letter came from a Registered General Nurse named Kay who works on a gynecological ward that regularly deals with late abortions. She apologized for the “unpleasant and upsetting aspects of her letter” but felt her points needed to be said. I agree, and felt it also warranted a wider audience. Apparently, at 20 weeks, tablets can be given to kill the fetus prior to expulsion. But at 24 weeks it is sufficiently strong to survive the treatment and many are born with signs of life. “It is all too easy for people to picture a clump of cells or mush. People don’t want to picture perfectly-formed miniature babies and I don’t blame them. I was once the same. But having cut the umbilical cord on one who survived, then had to watch him gasp for breath for ten minutes on the side of a sink before he died, the sight will haunt me forever.

The reason given in this particular termination was that the mother’s current boyfriend had a toddler son who might get jealous of a new baby. It took them 21 weeks to come to that conclusion.

The pro-choice columnist then says the following:

Kay doesn’t believe in criticizing or hounding women who have to make this extremely tough decision due to severe disability. Her feelings are reserved solely for those who use termination as a form of contraception. Women who, up until last week, I hoped were few and far between. But, according to Kay, these terminations far outstrip those carried out because of fetal abnormality or genuine emotional distress. She says:

‘There are girls who come back five or six times demanding terminations and they get them. How can someone coming in for their fifth termination be allowed to keep saying it is due to emotional distress? I should imagine in ten year’s time the emotional distress of being allowed to have five terminations is going to take its toll. What is going on?

How should pro-lifers respond to women who use abortion as birth control? These women seem to confirm the worst stereotypes that anti-abortion activists have about women who abort – that they are uncaring and irresponsible. But if you look deeper, many of these women are suffering from emotional turmoil.

In father Frank Pavone’s book Ending Abortion, Not Just Fighting It, he quotes Dr. Theresa Burke, who gives some perspective in her book Forbidden Grief:

Repeat abortions and replacement pregnancies are two common ways in which women reenact elements of their abortion trauma.

sadPavone also quotes mental health professional Dr. Philip Ney saying the following:

Tragedy is repeated not because we do not understand, but because we are trying to understand. Meaning that a woman is reliving her abortion experience trying to resolve the trauma by having a replacement child, but then realizes that the same reason she had an abortion before is still present.

These doctors explain how the emotional trauma of abortion can translate itself into repeating the same traumatic event again and again. Rather than being cold and uncaring, many of these women are in fact deeply hurting. The abortion clinic is not helping them by sending them on their way, again and again, to repeat the destructive pattern. From father Frank Pavone:

An underlying conflict, perhaps created by previous trauma, is unresolved. We find we cannot resolve it by simply replaying it in our minds. So we relive it. This happens in many arenas of life. The sexually abused child may become seductive; the child who lacked touch and affection may seek an emotionally cold partner, and so forth. We repeat what we don’t understand, in the hopes of mastering it.

He eloquently gives pro-lifers guidance in how to respond to these women:

Repeat abortions can be repulsive even to people who call themselves “pro-choice” and even to those who work in abortion mills. Sometimes the reaction is exasperated, indignant, “How could she do that??!!” But we should change the question and ask instead, “How can I help you to heal?” That question expresses the heart of the pro-life movement, a movement that knows that the destiny of mother and child are forever intertwined and that we can’t love one without loving the other.

Rather than judging mothers who repeatedly have abortions, the pro-life movement needs to reach out to them with compassion.

1. Jennifer Baumgardner “Twice is a Spanking” from the pro-choice book by Krista Jacob. Abortion under Attack: Women on the Challenges Facing Choice (Emeryville, CA: Seal Press, 2006) 222.


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1 posted on 03/24/2013 3:17:21 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

an empowered murderess. Addicted to bloodshed now. They’ll probably let her become a foster parent and torture those poor little ones next.


2 posted on 03/24/2013 3:20:15 PM PDT by Wanderer99
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To: Morgana

One question to this “empowered” woman: Would you laud your own mother’s “empowerment”, should she have afforded it to herself?


3 posted on 03/24/2013 3:26:08 PM PDT by FrdmLvr (culture, language, borders)
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To: Morgana; Revolting cat!

A woman who kills her child out of convenience is empowered but a man who doesn’t want to be punished with a baby is obligated to make financial payments for 18 years. Otherwise, he’s a DEADBEAT DAD.

Likewise, a woman who uses a vibrator is “empowered” and “self-fulfilled” but a man who uses a rubber doll is a sick pervert.


4 posted on 03/24/2013 3:32:23 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Morgana

These women aren’t “empowered” enough to refuse the sexual act that leads to the unplanned pregnancy. The horse left the barn a long time ago.

Why do so many of them (despite sex education in the public schools) seem incapable of seeing the link between the sexual act and conception? What is behind the refusal to use contraception — does the male partner object to it, and if so, is it because he subconsciously wants her to conceive (though he might not want to support the resulting baby)?

After how many “dates” does one partner (or maybe both) expect to engage in full, unprotected sexual intercourse?


5 posted on 03/24/2013 3:35:30 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: Morgana

I truly pity these poor women. What lives of misery they lead and what a future of hopelessness awaits their souls. Rather than condemn, pray for them.


6 posted on 03/24/2013 3:35:45 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: Morgana
"It was great to witness these two completely ignoring the words meant to hurt and shame them…I felt privileged to witness this calm confidence."

The inverted morality of this reads just like The Screwtape Letters.

7 posted on 03/24/2013 3:42:08 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Morgana

Abortion is a sacrament for the vicious man-hating feminazis. they worship this woman.


8 posted on 03/24/2013 3:45:07 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Pi$$ed off yet?)
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To: Morgana

10 abortions = murdering slut maggot = liberal.


9 posted on 03/24/2013 3:46:38 PM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off.)
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To: Morgana

President Barack Hussein Barry Sotero Obama said, paraphrasing, “If we could only save one child....”


10 posted on 03/24/2013 3:47:38 PM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: Morgana

well, she’s killed 10 human beings.
if that’s “empowerment” to her way of “thinking” ....then why doesn’t she just join the “Palestinian Authority,” Al Quaida, Hezebellah, Hamas, the Muslim Brotherhood, or whatever?

She could kill many, many more people that way... and feel far, far more “empowered”


11 posted on 03/24/2013 3:56:31 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (()
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To: Morgana
Empowered by satan. Abortion is a sacrifice to satan. I was a counselor at a CPC and talked with women like this-not 10 abortions but multiple.

I had one young women who said she just wanted the free pregnancy test and not counseling-she got it anyway. She told me she was Lilith and giving her baby to her god. She had on a chain with a weird crystal that kept glowing off and on. I remember thinking I should be scared, but I felt God with me and wasn't. Later it hit me and I was shaken. Our CPC director talked with me and gave me some books to read on spiritual warfare. It really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

12 posted on 03/24/2013 3:58:22 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Morgana
How should pro-lifers respond to women who use abortion as birth control?

100abortionpictures.com (warning, graphic images)

13 posted on 03/24/2013 3:59:13 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: Linda Frances
Our CPC director talked with me and gave me some books to read on spiritual warfare. It really opened my eyes to a lot of things.

What was the book?

14 posted on 03/24/2013 3:59:39 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: WorkingClassFilth
"Rather than condemn, pray for them."

I find that to be difficult. I suppose I must, but I rather just pray for their innocent victims and let the killers reap the fiery whirlwind.

15 posted on 03/24/2013 4:00:25 PM PDT by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Gone Galt, 11/07/12)
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To: Morgana

They ought to make the daddies attend the procedures.


16 posted on 03/24/2013 4:00:39 PM PDT by bergmeid (I told you so - now pass the ammo.)
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To: Morgana
Basically, abortion is a method of birth control.

"Safe, legal, and rare."

Well, one out of three ain't bad, I guess.

17 posted on 03/24/2013 4:03:45 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Future Snake Eater

The Darkness Among us by William Viser. I’m looking for the other 2 books. I might have given one of them away.


18 posted on 03/24/2013 4:04:31 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Morgana

Sometimes I think sterilization would be the most appropriate procedure for some of these women.


19 posted on 03/24/2013 4:13:52 PM PDT by nolongerademocrat ("Before you ask G-d for something, first thank G-d for what you already have." B'rachot 30b)
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To: Morgana

I know a woman who had 7.She broke up with someone I know and called them to say they were at the abortion chamber to have an abortion.I got on the phone and called my friends who counsel there.They told me she already had it and from the way she called,she probably had other abortions and was afraid to give birth.I saw her 6 months later by accident.I went off-it was bad-told her off out in the street.Four years later she walked into a public place that I worked at.She said you were at the top of the list.I asked her what list.She said the people I had to say sorry too.She brought in a beautiful little girl around 3 years old with blue eyes and red hair.She said I decided never to have another abortion after you told me off,I had 7.I just stood there stunned and she left.Just found out she has 4 more children since then.


20 posted on 03/24/2013 4:18:35 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Morgana

Have spent many an hour at various abortion mills - the Death-corts are a despicable sort of pro-abortioner.
A group from Wesleyan college would get extra credits from thier proffs. for Deathcort duty.


21 posted on 03/24/2013 4:21:14 PM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Future Snake Eater
I can't find the other two books now. I think I loaned them out and never got them back.

I belong to an Evangelical Free Church. I knew nothing of spiritual warfare like this book was talking about. My director had dealt with other women who were involved in the occult and other things. When I told my counselor she said she was Lilith (not the name she put on the form she filled out at receptionist desk) she immediately knew what this women was talking about. I did not. UNO, one of the local colleges, apparently had people involved in the occult; witchcraft....a few of these girls had gone through our office. I remember one of the other books she gave me was for me. How God protects us when confronted with evil. I knew that was true because of the peace I felt when I was alone with this women, even though I could feel the evil in her. It was only later, after I thought about what had happened, that I was upset.

22 posted on 03/24/2013 4:35:43 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: fatima

“Just found out she has 4 more children since then.”

That’s not a good situation either. Any idea if there’s a husband in that equation or is she just raising liberal cannon fodder?


23 posted on 03/24/2013 4:38:30 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Morgana

American ‘abortion addict’ reveals she terminated 15 pregnancies in 17 years

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1220095/American-abortion-addict-15-terminations-17-years-publishes-memoir.html


24 posted on 03/24/2013 4:39:48 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: Linda Frances

“She told me she was Lilith and giving her baby to her god. She had on a chain with a weird crystal that kept glowing off and on.”

I think someone was playing with your head. They think that’s funny, too. They’re sick people.


25 posted on 03/24/2013 4:41:41 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Morgana
When asked, “Is that really appropriate?,” he replied: “If she needs nine abortions, yeah. … Basically, abortion is a method of birth control. You know, it’s not the best method of birth control. But all it does is stop the birth of a baby that a woman doesn’t want at a time she doesn’t want it.”

So, this abortionist admits that he is killing babies, rather than removing bits of extraneous tissue. He's no better than the monsters who operated the gas chambers in Nazi Germany.

26 posted on 03/24/2013 4:42:20 PM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: PLMerite

She has a very high paying job and a husband.


27 posted on 03/24/2013 4:42:59 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: PLMerite

I have not doubt something evil was going on and my director recognized it right away. Don’t get me wrong, I did not think she was possessed and not on drugs, but like in a trans and defiant. The stupid crystal was so weird. I had not seen a small crystal light off and on like that. I had to come out of the office to talk with someone. They called the director an apparently she knew what was going on. I had girls who were obnoxious and taunting. She was the only one I had like this in 4 years.


28 posted on 03/24/2013 4:56:55 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: a fool in paradise

“Likewise, a woman who uses a vibrator is “empowered” and “self-fulfilled” but a man who uses a rubber doll is a sick pervert.”

Hmmm... I think you are giving out too much information there.


29 posted on 03/24/2013 5:47:42 PM PDT by sagar
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To: fatima

“She has a very high paying job and a husband.”

Good. Maybe she can be at peace. I don’t know if it’s possible to mitigate multiple abortions, but that decision isn’t up to me.


30 posted on 03/24/2013 6:07:17 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: sagar

Not a user of either, but both are autoerotic devices.


31 posted on 03/24/2013 6:08:35 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

They will, but consider the demented world a woman must live in to slaughter her own child. If God created anything to exemplify tenderness and love more than a mother to her baby I cannot think of it. Instead, enslavement in this world has led these women to demon worship with the sacrifice of their own living children cut from their wombs. To me, that is horror. Someday, they will see it the same way but without hope.


32 posted on 03/24/2013 6:23:03 PM PDT by WorkingClassFilth
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To: PLMerite

She was in therapy when I saw her,hence I was number one on her list.Don’t know about now.


33 posted on 03/24/2013 6:32:04 PM PDT by fatima (Free Hugs Today :))
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To: Morgana
"I felt privileged to witness this calm confidence."

No, honey, you just witnessed murderous indifference to the lives of her own children. That woman NEEDED to be shamed, but apparently, the word is not in her vocabulary. I'm sure the pro-life gentleman who tried to convince her not to kill her baby was in prayer for her that day.

34 posted on 03/24/2013 6:45:01 PM PDT by SuziQ
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To: PLMerite; Linda Frances

Lilith? That woman does not know what she’s talking about. I told some Wiccans that I know about the “Lilith Fund” started by Planned Parenthood (the Lilith Fund was to help poor women afford abortions) and when I did they looked at me, cringed and ask “why did they name it ‘Lilith’”? I said “I have no idea”.

I tell you what though Linda. Check some Jewish religious shops, you should be able to find some amulets that are kept by a baby’s crib to ward off Lilith. Buy one and keep it on your desk in case you meet more chicks like this.


35 posted on 03/24/2013 10:37:51 PM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Placemark.


36 posted on 03/24/2013 11:24:01 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Morgana
In other News, Governor Andrew Cuomo will be submitting a Bill to the New York Legislature limiting the Number of Abortions a Woman can have to Seven.

Even though the woman owns a Uterus that can accommodate up to Ten Abortions, she will be limited to Seven and her Uterus will be confiscated if she exceeds that number.

It's for the Children.

37 posted on 03/24/2013 11:32:22 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Compliance with Tyranny is Treason...)
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To: Morgana
I couldn't even finish reading this article. I became physically ill.

I once counseled a 15 year old girl who asked me if I thought it was ok to get an abortion. I gave her my opinion (that no, it wasn't) and told her of all the associated dangers and told her of the alternatives. She got upset at me. She was looking for approval, not "help" because she'd already had two abortions and was going for her third the following morning. *sigh*
38 posted on 03/25/2013 1:54:32 AM PDT by grateful
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To: PLMerite

That is also a strong indicator of demon possession. If not possessed, they have opened a door inviting it, and it is likely merely a matter of time before they are indeed possessed.


39 posted on 03/25/2013 2:10:51 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Linda Frances

The name given is the same demon to which OT Isaiah 34:14 is also translated as Screech owl. She is associated with desolate desert places and also called the night hag. She is also associated as a demon that murders children.

I don’t know all the implications, but the number of instances where others have referenced the name with implied knowledge, they also gave a strong impression of worshiping the occult or witchcraft.

An amulet doesn’t protect, but faith in Christ is the first appropriate solution as God provides for all and all things that were created were created by Him. He has authority over them and they fear the consequences of their behavior and thinking before Him. Placing trust in an amulet is likely to act as a beacon for demonic attraction.


40 posted on 03/25/2013 2:39:24 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Cvengr
The name given is the same demon to which OT Isaiah 34:14 is also translated as Screech owl. She is associated with desolate desert places and also called the night hag. She is also associated as a demon that murders children.

This happened about 20 years ago. My director told me the same thing.

I don’t know all the implications, but the number of instances where others have referenced the name with implied knowledge, they also gave a strong impression of worshiping the occult or witchcraft.


It sounds like this woman got involved in the occult, but was not an authority on it.

An amulet doesn’t protect, but faith in Christ is the first appropriate solution as God provides for all and all things that were created were created by Him. He has authority over them and they fear the consequences of their behavior and thinking before Him. Placing trust in an amulet is likely to act as a beacon for demonic attraction.

You're exactly right. Trusting in anything but God is idolatry. My director took care to make sure I was ok and at our next monthly meeting, asked everyone to let her know if something like this happens again. She wanted us to remember we are in a spiritual battle, and that God is with us. Also, not to think for a minute that “we” are in control; that is sin and playing with fire. That it is God who goes before us and is working through us.
41 posted on 03/25/2013 7:54:59 AM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: Morgana
Clinic escort: woman who had 10 abortions babies murdered is “empowered”

Small edit for accuracy.

42 posted on 03/25/2013 8:12:05 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: thecodont

“What is behind the refusal to use contraception”

I’m guessing it’s not because they’re Catholic.


43 posted on 05/14/2013 11:48:24 AM PDT by Boogieman
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