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Many young women live with men first, marry later
Associated Press ^ | Apr 4, 2013 12:52 AM EDT | Mike Stobbe

Posted on 04/03/2013 10:34:18 PM PDT by Olog-hai

Nearly half of young women say the first time they lived with a guy, they weren’t married. …

The results are a marked changed from 1995 when only 34 percent said they moved in together. Now it is 48 percent. Back then, 39 percent said they married first, compared to 23 now. …

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To: Fran B

Great story and you will meet again.


21 posted on 04/04/2013 3:15:57 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

Getting paid to stay poor and single isn’t an incentive either and that’s the end of the social spectrum where most of the destruction occurs.

Otherwise, it’s a marginal difference for most income brackets.


22 posted on 04/04/2013 3:17:42 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

You’re right, there’s a big difference by class. For upper and middle classes, living together has become one more step in assuring the couple will do well if/when they consummate the marriage, at which point there’s a high likelihood of them staying together, at least until the kids are raised.

For the lower classes it tends to be part of a revolving door lifestyle, whether or not dictated by government benefits.


23 posted on 04/04/2013 3:28:08 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
having to pay higher taxes for a joint income that puts you into a higher bracket after marriage is certainly not an incentive to get married.

To get men with jobs interested in getting married again the IRS should allow husbands to depreciate their wife's beauty over 20 years. Many young women get the false idea their increasing beauty will last a lifetime. Then they overplay their hand.

24 posted on 04/04/2013 3:47:56 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Cronos
My wife and I did that -- for 5 years before we got married.

As God is my witness, I don't understand how you can be with the woman you want to spend your life with for five whole years and not be married to her. Where do you find the restraint? I knew I was going to marry my wife the day I met her. It took me three months to convince her (fool her) that I was worth it, and then another six months before the priest would let us marry. Most of my married children knew their spouses for about a year before they married. I had one son who dated his girl for three years before proposing. I said to my wife that I didn't really think he wanted to marry her or he'd have proposed two years ago. Darned if they didn't break up right after sending out the invitations. He eventually went on to marry a girl he knew five months before proposing.

Everybody's different, but good gravy, you've got some willpower, son.

25 posted on 04/04/2013 3:49:12 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: 1010RD
Divorce hurts women and children. Chalk up another win for liberalism.

Yeah, and it's a real walk in the park for men and fathers. Try having a Y chromosome in "family" court sometime. You'll find out real fast that what you thought were rights are really just privileges and what it's like to be a second class citizen.

26 posted on 04/04/2013 4:23:38 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: Fran B

What a love story. How wonderful. I am sorry for the loss of your husband but isn’t it something that you had 35 years which is way more than most because of divorce. I am so glad that you picked the right guy and had a wonderful life.


27 posted on 04/04/2013 4:31:03 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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To: 9YearLurker

It’s not surprising that the “lower classes” suffer from low IQs. On average they don’t think well, have very short time horizons, and are acutely emotionally immature.

Or am I describing politicians?


28 posted on 04/04/2013 4:31:54 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Orangedog

The system’s out of balance. Studies show that a vast majority of divorced people wish they’d worked it out and stayed married.

The education system is an indoctrination system. No parent would choose to teach their kids to have more and better sex. Instead, parents would want their kids, at an early age, to learn how to form good friendships and healthy relationships, learn about the importance of marriage and of keeping covenants and promises for the long haul.

I didn’t mean that liberalism doesn’t victimize men as well, society as a whole is a victim to its bad thinking. If she has the kid you’re responsible, if she decides to kill it in the womb you don’t get a say. It’s nuts.


29 posted on 04/04/2013 4:35:33 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Olog-hai

The old test drive.


30 posted on 04/04/2013 4:36:39 AM PDT by kenmcg (scapegoat)
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To: Olog-hai

Why any woman agrees to that arraingement is beyond me. Speaking as a man, as the old saying goes, “Why buy the cow when you’re getting the milk for free”


31 posted on 04/04/2013 4:42:04 AM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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To: Olog-hai

Married my high school sweetheart. He asked me to move in with him and i explained that i was raised better than that. A marriage proposal followed a few weeks later. Been married 27 years now and selective memory has set in and he swears he never suggested any such thing. I told our daughter that the deal is this: if you live with a man before you marry then pay for the wedding yourself. Nothing takes away the excitment and specialness of a wedding like knowing at the end of the day you are just going to go home to the same old house together that you left that morning.


32 posted on 04/04/2013 4:45:49 AM PDT by annelizly
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To: Reeses

> To get men with jobs interested in getting married again the IRS should allow husbands to depreciate their wife’s beauty over 20 years. Many young women get the false idea their increasing beauty will last a lifetime. Then they overplay their hand.

Boy you just wait until the ladies here on the forum read this....lol


33 posted on 04/04/2013 4:46:02 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Marathoner

“Why buy the cow when you’re getting the milk for free”

Another saying from one of the ‘office girls’:
When you buy shoes, don’t you try them on first?


34 posted on 04/04/2013 4:49:34 AM PDT by duckman (I'm part of the group pulling the wagon!)
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To: old and tired
well, I should have elaborated. We were travelling about for our careers, so for much of the time we were in different countries -- quite often in different continents and met in person after months (yipppe to skype!).

So a lot of discussion about whether it made sense for people from different cultures and nationalities and languages to be together (she's Polish), but finally decided that we didn't care about that -- quite frankly we have the same conservative views, are strongly Catholic and fiscally responsible. So the compatibility won over the other objections.

35 posted on 04/04/2013 5:20:44 AM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros->Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: old and tired
I don't know when you got married but it's a damn battlefield out there today with the ridiculous divorce laws and shark lawyers.

Women will pretend to be EXACTLY what you were looking for until payday. Then they'll take your money and live the “cougar” lifestyle. I see it ALL THE TIME and every guy they used thought the woman was incredible. Many of these fools were getting married within 6-12 months.

Maybe they don't all start out with that intention but our courts enable the temptation to “grab and run” when things get a little hard. There is too much incentive for a woman to dissolve her marriage.

I probably would never get married unless I know for a fact the woman is much wealthier than I am or she shows complete devotion to me for maybe 10 years without a single incident. Living together before that is also a no-no because it can qualify as a common law marriage.

36 posted on 04/04/2013 5:30:07 AM PDT by varyouga
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To: Olog-hai

Yeah, so much for feminism...
The guys get free milk without having to buy the cow...
Nice going, girls....


37 posted on 04/04/2013 5:33:09 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Cronos

Yikes!!!
Engaged Encounter Weekend...!
Found out recently, after almost 30 yrs of marriage, the hubs and some other guys jumped the wall during our Weekend and got pizza...and didn’t take me!!! If I had known, might not have shown at the altar....


38 posted on 04/04/2013 5:37:48 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Marathoner

Once again, I need to read thread before posting!!!


39 posted on 04/04/2013 5:40:13 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: Olog-hai

I know there is a lot of doom porn going around these days.

But, just thinking out loud here...how will all these “single” moms fare when it is up them, alone, to figure out how to survive.

That would not end well.


40 posted on 04/04/2013 5:47:01 AM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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