Revolutionary War vs. Civil War

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[PinkChampagneonIce]

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[llevrok]

Interesting discussion.

My tag line says what I think is already under way.

[KrisKrinkle]

“Like nuclear war without the nukes... hide away and ride it out.” ( Third Person )

“Hide out and wait for the dust to settle if that’s possible.” ( GeorgeWashingtonsGhost )

You guys sound like free riders who’ll let others do the work and then reap the benefits for yourselves. The winner may not let you get away with that.

[tumblindice]

Probably more like Spain’s civil war in the 30s. Orwell’s ‘Homage To Catalonia’ is a good read. It soured him on socialism, for one thing.

[tumblindice]

Probably more like Spain’s civil war in the 30s. Orwell’s ‘Homage To Catalonia’ is a good read. It soured him on socialism, for one thing.

[Graewoulf]

B. Hussein Omama, formerly Barry Soetoro, and soon to be Tyrant Kim Un Hussein has run out of money.

40 cents on every dollar that he pays himself is borrowed.

In response, B. Hussein is currently trying to Nationalize the Medical and Medical Insurance segments of the USA.

For reasons beyond the grasp of the incompetent B. Hussein, the 2700 pages of the Obama’care’ Law, and the 20,000 pages of regulations, are not adequate for the ‘57’ States.

Hence, Tyrant Kim Un Hussein will need a more reliable income stream, and what better source than the Oil and Gas industry?

To achieve his goal of “FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGING THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,” Tyrant Kim Un Hussein will need a crisis.

“Kimmy The Incompetent” is hopeful that somehow the XL Pipeline will be that crisis.

Currently, Tyrant Kim Un Hussein is preparing to confiscate the guns owned by Americans they have used to deter or defeat Tyrants, foreign and domestic.

This confiscation has already begun in parts of New York State.

Hence, Civil War 2 has begun.

The Revolutionary War only had 20 % population approval, 20 % disapproval (the Royalists) and 60 % just wanted to be left alone.

That ratio is approximately what we have with our sorry two party system, with 20 % Republican, 20 % Democrat, 10 % Independent, and 50 % who are to disgusted to vote.

Perhaps only 60 % of the 20 % of us who admit to being Republicans, or a net 12% (=1 in 8) who want to CONSERVE the best of America.

_________

Your question is in the form of either/or.

In reality the answer will be “none of the above.”

The Financial Markets will end the rule of the Regime of Tyrant Kim Un Hussein in about the same amount of time that the Bursting of the Fannie Bubble took in 2008 and 2009.

The unpaid Labor Union Federal Employees will drain the food warehouses quickly across the ‘57’ States.

The Civil War 2 will be about survival for the initial phase that may last through several Winters.

As the natural market develops a standard barter system, the Survivor States will begin to hold Constitutional Conventions.

As the populations shift in or out of these Survivor States, the concept of States joining together as a Region will begin to attract like-minded people.

For example, The Soviet States of New England would be a mutually beneficial Region.

The Region of TEXAS would be the States that the XL Pipeline will run through.

As to the actual fighting, it will depend on the swiftness of a Military Coup to shut down the debt-creating departments of our sorry Federal Government.

For those pockets of true belief in the Karl Marx mantra: “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need,” the best combat description would be a guerilla war similar to that shown in the movie “Red Dawn” with Patrick Swayze.

For those areas where the people are true believers in Paul Harvey’s observation: “WHEN YOUR OUTGO EXCEEDS YOUR INCOME, YOUR UPKEEP WILL BE YOUR DOWNFALL,” we will hurry along the Liberals to their regions so that we can get back to work.

[Conserev1]

Both were about oppression! The name Civil only means it was fought on native soil against it’self! The Liberal left does not have the guts to stand up aganist real war! They compel people through laws and threats of imprisonment and imprisionment!
We talk about political prisoners! We have them on our own soil!
PPS arrested for killing a bear to save his life because his permit was out! Kids @ 7 years getting a felony! Who ever said a 7 year old could get a felony is out of his mind!
Yes it will be a Civil war if it comes to that! However the American people do not have the stomach for it nor the power now to turn back the Communist regime that has a grip on US yes US the American People that gave these scum to perpetrate crimes against our own! The Lemmings will march in line.
Real America does not exist! Your Life and your household is in the hands of imcompetent fools who only care about their interest at heart! If the liberal left does not own you, it soon will! What does one Freeper say? Keep your powder dry and lead and both stockpiled, it could happen! I gaurentee if a few states Suceeded, that gaurenteed your rights without question and you are a stand up citizen the population shift would flip the Country just like the idiot said Guam would flip!

[GeorgeWashingtonsGhost]

The winners are the hole dwellers. Think ‘meerkat’ during a hurricane.

[central_va]

Secession does not mean war. Each state(s) has the power to put it to the people anytime they want to vote out of this bastard of a union. The Constitution is silent on the issue of secession, don't let the Free Republic Lincoln Butt Boys around here tell you differently.

"The withdrawal of a State from a league has no revolutionary or insurrectionary characteristic. The government of the State remains unchanged as to all internal affairs. It is only its external or confederate relations that are altered. To term this action of a Sovereign a 'rebellion' is a gross abuse of language."

"Obstacles may retard, but they cannot long prevent the progress of a movement sanctified by its justice, and sustained by a virtuous people ."

"Secession belongs to a different class of remedies. It is to be justified upon the basis that the States are Sovereign. There was a time when none denied it. I hope the time may come again, when a better comprehension of the theory of our Government, and the inalienable rights of the people of the States, will prevent any one from denying that each State is a Sovereign, and thus may reclaim the grants which it has made to any agent whomsoever."

"The contest is not over, the strife is not ended. It has only entered upon a new and enlarged arena." Jefferson Davis, address to the Mississippi legislature - 16 years after the wars end.

"The principle for which we contend is bound to reassert itself, though it may be at another time and in another form."

                              President Jeff Davis.

[central_va]

The Confederate states suffered far less as part of the USA than they would have as an independent nation.

Stupidest post EVER.

[Third Person]

I’m a twenty five year small business owner, stuck in Connecticut, who employees twenty plus people. Don’t talk to me about being a free rider.

If and when something goes down, I plan on laying low.

[0.E.O]

The major similarity between the American Revolution and the Civil War? The good guys won both.

[allmendream]

The Confederate states would be a third world country if removed from the strongest most prosperous and most free nation on Earth. Parts id the south are like the third world today even despite it.

[allmendream]

The Confederate states would be a third world country if removed from the strongest most prosperous and most free nation on Earth. Parts id the south are like the third world today even despite it.

[Yosemitest]

To PinkChampagneonIce:

I don't trust you.
Your words, realigned:
"... I guess that means I’m still a liberal, but a “Free Republic Liberal.
... It irks me greatly
that I may have been a “useful idiot” to those
who, having achieved power, now see fit to attempt to control and manipulate others.
True liberals don’t like censorship, political correctness, the abuse of power, manipulation, or lies.
... I was not a liberal because I was stupid, or part of some vast left-wing conspiracy.
My “conversion” is based entirely upon
receiving new information,
which was kept from me,
and which I have found to be convincing.
... I am an ex-liberal.”
I don't think your conversion is complete
Liberals feel.
They don't think.
Look what the Bible says about Liberals.

To Graewoulf:

I agree with your answer, "the answer will be “none of the above.” ", to PinkChampagneonIce's question:
"I've been mulling over the nature of our current conflict and whether,
if it reaches the point of war,
it will be more like the Revolutionary War
or more like the Civil War."
But WAR is WAR, and it'll start as "guerilla war tactics", which is what the ILLEGAL ALIEN IN CHIEF wants, so he can declare Martial law.
But it won't go as he plans.

Read Vince Flynn's book titled Term Limits and you begin to see how it'll start.

Now don't forget God, because He's told us how this will end, and He means it !

One more thing to read is Brig. Gen. Charles J. Dunlap Jr.'s (then Lieutenant Colonel, from Parameters, Winter 1992-93, pp. 2-20.) National Defense University "strategy essay" titled The Origins of the American Military Coup of 2012.
Study US Has been preparing to turn America into a military dictatorship
and focus on ORIGINS OF OPERATION GARDEN PLOT partway down from the top of this link
.

[central_va]

The Confederate states would be a third world country if removed from the strongest most prosperous and most free nation on Earth. Parts id the south are like the third world today even despite it.

Funny how the GD Yankees always move South to the third world - away from the most free and prosperous North. LOL You are joke.

[allmendream]

Funny how GD Southerners always move West and call someone from the West a “Yankee” or “Northerner”. They are so miseducated they think that any American who isn't a Southerner is a Yankee. Must be nice to blame everything backwards and behind on a war that has been over for almost 150 years.

[central_va]

Everything went down hill after Lincoln won his war. Now all slaves. Does the bottom of a federal boot taste good? Seems like you would know.

[central_va]

Not that I give $h1t what you think but I meant to say "Now we all are slaves".

If it wasn't for the South the USA would be fully socialist by now, if not communist. PS: KMA.

[central_va]

Not that I give $h1t what you think but I meant to say "Now we all are slaves".

If it wasn't for the South the USA would be fully socialist by now, if not communist. PS: KMA.

[allmendream]

Yeah, if only you were able to keep slaves - that would have made everything A-OK. People can only really be free if they have the freedom to keep slaves./s

Lincoln didn't want a war - but when U.S. troops are attacked while fulfilling their mandate to protect and defend U.S. soil - there really isn't much of a choice.

You can try to blame everything bad regarding federal overreach as starting with Lincoln - I would expect nothing less of someone whose mindset is crippled by events of 150 years ago.

Must be nice having something to blame for never moving forward!/s “it's ‘the MAN’, keepin’ a brother DOWN!”