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All scandals merely symptoms of THE problem: The Democrats stole the election
Reading | 20 May 2013 | Mene

Posted on 05/20/2013 6:28:39 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

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To: justiceseeker93
usually reliable pollsters underestimated Obama's ultimate reported percentage of the vote. In fact, state after state where Romney was said by pollsters to have led by one, two, or three points was won by Zero...

Actually the opposite occurred. There was a significant spit-at-home vote due to Rmoney throwing Conservatism and Tea Partiers under the bus.

And, Tokyo Rove supported him. Q. E. D.

61 posted on 05/20/2013 9:42:05 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: sauropod

That should have been “sit-at-home.”

Damn hand splint.


62 posted on 05/20/2013 9:48:34 PM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I’ve been saying this all along. Obama stole the elections, with Chavez-like voting results. The media silence was deafening. They will have consequences as well.


63 posted on 05/21/2013 4:17:30 AM PDT by mgist
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To: Spaulding

honor of what? you mean like Chicago denizens perhaps? there is no honor among thieves.


64 posted on 05/21/2013 5:13:27 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sauropod; Spaulding; muawiyah; Impy; InterceptPoint; fieldmarshaldj; randita; ml/nj; ...
Actually the opposite occurred. There was a significant spit-at-home vote due to Rmoney throwing Conservatism and Tea Partiers under the bus.

And, Tokyo Rove supported him. Q. E. D.

Agree with you on fact that there were some "spit-at-home" conservatives, as you described them.

But any honest "spit-at-home" person who responded to a pollster would tell him that he (she) wasn't likely to vote. The pollster, who was dealing only with likely voters, would not have included that response as a Romney vote in computing his bottom line data. Yet although these voters were excluded from the pollster's results, Romney still held the small polling leads I mentioned in just about all the swing states, which somehow "disappeared" when the purported results were announced. This was unlike any other recent presidential election.

The most likely and logical single explanation for that discrepancy in Obama's favor between the purported election results and the late pre-election polls would be fraud and cheating on the part of the 'rats. "Spit-at-home" voters would not count in either the purported post-election results or the pre-election polling, so they can't be an explanation for the discrepancies to which I'm referring.

65 posted on 05/21/2013 6:41:36 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: justiceseeker93

Obama was off his game too ~ he lost 4 million votes he’d had in 2008!


66 posted on 05/21/2013 6:43:23 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: sauropod

What are the demographics of the sit-at-home [non]vote because Romney is a liberal? How many were there? What states do the live in?


67 posted on 05/21/2013 6:45:38 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

Yes, they stole the election. But it is not the cause of the problem, it is the result of a few root causes. The biggest one in my opinion is that the GOP wants to continue to fight an ideological war, and think that conservative ideas are enough to get people to vote for them. Noble as that is, those days are over, it takes an efficient marketing and mobilization machine, along with superb grass-roots and infiltration of those who impact messages to the broader Facebook/Twitter/Instagram/Vine/SNL/Daily Show voting population to win elections.

It also takes taking the fight to your opposition, fighting back and fighting at least as dirty as your opponents are. I don’t see any ruthlessness from the GOP leadership, just some mild-mannered disagreement and procrastination, while the radical left is using every dirty trick at their disposal to make sure conservatives never win a presidential election again.


68 posted on 05/21/2013 6:52:42 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: muawiyah
Obama was off his game too ~ he lost 4 million votes he’d had in 2008!

If the election were reasonably honest and fair, Zero would have lost more than 4M votes from 2012. It's the fraud and cheating that made up some, though not all, of the lost votes.

What makes the reported election results odd, to say the least, is that no president in the 20th or 21st century had ever been re-elected to a second term with a smaller popular vote than he had received in his first presidential election.

69 posted on 05/21/2013 7:02:36 AM PDT by justiceseeker93
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Voter fraud must be a priority for the GOP or should I say “conservatives” since the GOP has no gonads.


70 posted on 05/21/2013 7:05:58 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

The rats can not win an election without fraud, lies, and theft


71 posted on 05/21/2013 7:20:10 AM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: ExTexasRedhead

Yep.


72 posted on 05/21/2013 8:18:16 AM PDT by left that other site ((Ban the ubiquitous and deadly solvent, Di-hydrogen monoxide!!!))
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To: jjotto; justiceseeker93

I recall either the Godfather or Levin doing a comparative analysis of the electorate that voted in 2008 and 2012. From what I recall, Barry got less votes in 2012 vice 2008. Rmoney got less votes than did McLame because Rmoney was such a poor candidate.

I don’t recall which states had significant spit-at-home votes. I’m sure the information is out there somewhere.


73 posted on 05/21/2013 9:07:24 AM PDT by sauropod (Fat Bottomed Girl: "What difference, at this point, does it make?")
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To: muawiyah
"honor of what? you mean like Chicago denizens perhaps? there is no honor among thieves."

I see your point Muswyah. Election fraud has become the license to steal. I recall a recent citation quoting Castro asking Chavez why he even bothered with elections. With the indentured servants of the SEIU doing the counting Stalin's observation that “with elections only who does the counting matters” (paraphrases). With our executive fraud has become the standard, as our attorney general demonstrated immediately upon taking over.

74 posted on 05/21/2013 1:28:52 PM PDT by Spaulding
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Correction to my post # 69:

Should be “2008” (NOT 2012).


75 posted on 05/21/2013 1:36:06 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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To: sauropod

Romney got a million more votes than McCain.


76 posted on 05/21/2013 2:54:25 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Spaulding

I’m for paper ballots based on that analysis.


77 posted on 05/22/2013 10:49:47 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Spaulding

Looks like the entire question is boiling down to whether people have values or not. You can NOT legislate righteousness.


78 posted on 05/22/2013 10:50:48 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: MeneMeneTekelUpharsin

I was wondering recently why no prominent conservatives have spoken out on this. Limbaugh must know. Hannity, Levin, Palin, Gingrich—all must know.

Why this deep silence on the subject?


79 posted on 05/23/2013 2:35:45 PM PDT by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: dsc
Sarcastically, you're saying I'm stupid and without knowledge because the supposedly "in the know" guys have said nothing. Knowing something is wrong and having the ability to do something about it are two different things. Also, as I posted, more than likely the Republican Party has been involved in voter fraud as well. So, to bring accusation against Democrats for that activity also implicates the accuser in such a case.

Don't hold up Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich with their character failings and immorality as an example to me on anything, by the way. You know, I'm fed up with all of this. If this nation wants to live with deceit, lies, fraud, wrong-doing and head straight to destruction. So be it.

80 posted on 05/24/2013 4:51:53 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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