Posted on 05/22/2013 4:29:51 PM PDT by sagar
If I live in a place that has 3 EF4-5 tornadoes in the last 15 years, it is my responsibility to make sure me and my family, including my school aged children, are safe.
The government has no place in mandating a free citizen our business. Don't tell me what kind of shelter I must have.
This CNN whore was grilling Coburn about the government mandate as if it was government's responsibility to protect us from weather. No, if your public school has no shelter and you believe you require it, either raise money or school your own kids at home and build shelters there.
I'm sure big government so called conservatives will join liberals in forcing everybody to have shelters to protect us from our own decisions. Media will focus on sob stories.
How is this any different than the Obamacare?
vast majority of Oklahomans do not have shelters from tornadoes...”
The ground is not real “dig” friendly in most of Oklahoma. Even here in our part of Texas we had to dig out the clay from our garden space and then replace it with real dirt. But at least we didn’t have rock to deal with and we could use a shovel and not dynamite.
Some “round houses” are popping up here and there along the coast in Galveston. Still hasn’t caught on very well though.
“The ground is not real “dig” friendly in most of Oklahoma. Even here in our part of Texas we had to dig out the clay from our garden space and then replace it with real dirt. But at least we didn’t have rock to deal with and we could use a shovel and not dynamite.”
It sounds like a conscious decision to not have underground shelters in Oklahoma. Again, if Oklahomans were really needing/wanting tornado shelters, they could have paid extra five grand to get above-ground shelters. Everybody has priority and cost benefit analysis, including Oklahomans, but media whores want to force their own priority on others.
Yeah I’ve never understood why someone would build in Tornado alley and not have a shelter.
For a private home even someone with minimal construction skills could build something to keep themselves alive for a few minutes. Dig down 4 feet, pour a concrete floor, build block walls a solidly attached door to cover it.
My family must be very odd. We have been wearing seat belts for years before they were required. We started wearing them after I had a wreck back in 74 which tossed my daughter out of her car seat. I fasten them as soon as I get in the car.
Defending against meteorite strike is personal responsibility too
“Defending against meteorite strike is personal responsibility too”
If your town gets ravaged by meteorite strikes every 5 years, while towns 100 miles away do not, then either you are extremely dumb or suicidal if you do not take precaution against meteorite strikes. So, yes, I would say defending such meteorite strikes is about personal responsibility.
/johnny
Government help? That school was set to get a new shelter, but FEMA held back the funds because of a rule cha ge in the application. This government is being run by yet to be convicted criminals.
Same thing here. Michigan (North Louisiana)
I feel like I’m going to fall out of the car if I don’t wear a seat belt.
“That school was set to get a new shelter, but FEMA held back the funds”
Is there a source? Regardless, why are they seeking federal funds for their children’s safety? Government free welfare money. How about they just proceeded without the federal freebie (somebody else’s money) and protected their own school children?
I would love to build a shelter. It's not going to happen. I don't have the cash equal to the price of my house and property to install one that doesn't flood or float to the surface.
/johnny
To paraphrase from “The King and I”,
If Government is strong with power to protect me,
Might they not protect me out of all I own?
I was thinking about going halfway and dig down two feet and build a berm over the top of it.
Doesn’t need to be big, maybe 5 feet by 5 feet. Big enough for me, my two dogs, a tent just in case the house blows away, and a couple gallons of water.
Yeah. Last year I had gone to the grocery store. I was nearly out of the parking lot when I heard a beeping sound. I had never heard it before but I had forgotten to fasten my seat belt. I could not believe I had not fastened it.
All of us pay property taxes, directly or indirectly, for the purpose of funding public education. Some of that money SHOULD be used for school storm shelters in areas at regular risk of tornadoes.
If student safety is so unimportant that shelters must be paid for through “charity”, then the school budget priorities need to be seriously reexamined. The FIRST priority must be the safety of the children.
Storm shelters don't have to be million dollar lounges. Shipping containers buried under ground with ventilation, lighting, benches, & a secure entrance are all that are needed. No doubt a school could have a sufficient number of these installed for less that the cost of one year's salary of an assistant principal.
If it comes down to one less teacher/administrator or a bunch of dead kids/teachers/administrators, which is the more important? This is one choice where EVERYONE should agree.
I should add that a school is a good location for public shelters. Schools are often used as shelters during storms & floods, now. Why not enhance that public accommodation with enough shelters not only to protect the school, but also anyone nearby needing immediate shelter? Not everyone is conveniently near their home shelter when a tornado hits.
Sure. I’m glad to pass the info on.
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