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‘Good Guys’ Make Bad Generals
The American Conservative ^ | May 13, 2013 | ANDREW J. BACEVICH

Posted on 05/24/2013 12:50:58 PM PDT by JerseyanExile

By all accounts, the present-day United States military is the best—that is, the most capable—in all the world. In the estimation of their countrymen, today’s American warrior (the homelier term G.I. having now gone the way of doughboy) may well be the best of all time. Yet America’s Army doesn’t win. Except for small-scale skirmishes, it hasn’t since World War II.

The United States Army is like one of those chronically underperforming professional sports franchises: the team looks good on paper but somehow doesn’t quite get the job done. Despite a huge payroll, a roster loaded with talent, and an enthusiastic fan base, performance on the pitch falls short of what’s needed to win championships.

What explains this gap between apparent potential and actual achievement? When Americans send their army to fight, why doesn’t it return home in triumph? In The Generals, Thomas R. Ricks ventures an answer to that question, with his book’s title fingering the chief culprits.

Writing in 1932, the soldier-historian J.F.C. Fuller identified the essential attributes of successful generalship as “courage, creative intelligence and physical fitness.” A prize-winning journalist best known for his cogent analysis of the Iraq War, Ricks does not question whether senior American military officers can do the requisite number of push-ups and sit-ups to demonstrate their physical vigor. Yet since World War II, he argues, the quality of creative intelligence found in the upper echelons of the United States Army has declined precipitously. So too has the quality of civil-military interaction—the dialogue between senior officers and senior civilian officials that is essential to effective war management. Here the problem stems at least in part from pronounced lapses in moral courage. Together, these failings at the top explain why an army that seemingly ought to win doesn’t.

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KEYWORDS: army; military; usarmy
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To: Resolute Conservative
Because we have pansies at the top. A RoE are BS.

Remember me?


21 posted on 05/24/2013 1:55:51 PM PDT by Night Hides Not (The Tea Party was the earthquake, and Chick Fil A the tsunami...100's of aftershocks to come.)
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To: ansel12

Well said.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 2:04:23 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: JerseyanExile

Once again, we see the false argument that ‘the American Army lost the war in Vietnam.’ The Army won every major (battalion-sized or larger) and most of the smaller firefights (that I was in, anyway). The war was lost at the negotiating table, and by Congress’s refusal to re-engage, or even adequately support our ally, when the PRV broke the agreement.

The US didn’t lose VietNam. We quit. That’s worse. But one can’t blame the generals for that.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 2:14:26 PM PDT by VietVet (I am old enough to know who I am and what I believe, and I 'm not inclined to apologize for any of)
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To: JerseyanExile

“By all accounts, the present-day United States military is the best—that is, the most capable—in all the world.”

LOL! No need to read further.

Since WWII - no matter how poorly equipped, how small, how pathetically funded, how uneducated, how ragtag, how undisciplined, how disorganized - have we once vanquished an enemy into unconditional surrender. Of course we’ve never delared any actual wars either, except the never-ending “wars” against Communism, poverty, drugs, terror, etc etc etce tce etce egdhbcrn/klCL:


24 posted on 05/24/2013 2:29:46 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

well said


25 posted on 05/24/2013 2:55:59 PM PDT by heye2monn
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To: JerseyanExile

Except for Grenada, Panama, Iraq #1, Iraq #2, Afganistan.

The problem is not with the GIs, but with the officer corp, the Pentagon, and the commander in chief.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 2:56:08 PM PDT by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country.)
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To: the_Watchman

With all fairness to McNamara, the military command also thought that a major offensive in the North was not a good idea. There was a lot of back and forth with China and the Soviet Union as well, so a stalemate was seen as the best alternative.

After the battle of Ia Drang, the NVA could not concentrate its forces, or the US would have been all over it. But without a concentrated enemy force, the US would have just been patrolling empty jungle, yet subject to hit and run attacks. So the US avoided concentrations as well.

The stalemate was almost broken by Nixon ordering the carpet bombing by B-52s, which even the North admitted, after the war, almost broke them. The trouble with that was that the NVA fled to Laos and Cambodia and offered to drag them into the mess as well.

The biggest lesson learned by the US military was that it had to markedly improve its technologies, because its casualties were far too high for future conflicts. It did so.


27 posted on 05/24/2013 2:56:51 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Best WoT news at rantburg.com)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

You’re right on all points.


28 posted on 05/24/2013 3:17:51 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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To: RatRipper
It is brutal and ugly, but in the long run, complete victory by a peaceful, moral nation saves lives and is the most compassionate course in the long run.

Excellent comment. Is it yours or where did you get it?
No matter, thanks for posting!
29 posted on 05/24/2013 3:47:11 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: DJ MacWoW
Yeah, remember when the press and civilians labeled the highway of death to be that sport where the airpower destroyed the remnants of the Iraqi army at the end?

Didn't Powell have a doing in talking our government into pulling the plug after the press showed that on TV for hundreds of times the day it happened?
30 posted on 05/24/2013 3:56:26 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: quadrant
Well, we've still got the Marine Corps to save the country.

It isn't the Marine Corps of the recruiting posters anymore.....its PC faggotry, risk aversion, CYA, and DHS run and hide or fight with scissors training.

31 posted on 05/24/2013 4:01:11 PM PDT by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: JerseyanExile

Nope...they are “go along to get along” and make flag/general officer rank.


32 posted on 05/24/2013 4:02:45 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: Joe 6-pack

Patton...now THERE was a general.
My mother’s hero...she who endured Nazi-occupied France...


33 posted on 05/24/2013 4:05:37 PM PDT by matginzac
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To: quadrant

Well, speaking as a USAF veteran (1970-1974), I can without hesitation say...Thank God for the U.S. Marine Corps!


34 posted on 05/24/2013 4:49:16 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Standing Wolf

We can also use a couple Lees and Jacksons.


35 posted on 05/24/2013 4:50:34 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: quadrant

A major problem was that LBJ started to micromanage the war, even going so far as to personally select individual bombing targets. That’s a recipe for disaster.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 4:53:05 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: JSteff

Totally from the heart. Thank you.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 5:03:20 PM PDT by RatRipper (Self-centeredness, greed, envy, deceit and lawless corruption has killed this once great nation.)
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To: ought-six
We can also use a couple Lees and Jacksons.

I concur, ought-six.

38 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:48 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: JerseyanExile

I had the great good fortune to watch Andrew Bacevich mentor his young Officers. He made me wish that I was one of them. Andrew Bacevich is one of the few people in the world that, when he talks, I shut up and listen. Conservatives would do well to have a tour of Conservative speakers including Andrew Bacevich, Victor Davis Hanson and Daniel Greenfield. We would be smart to have these guys serve as mentors to young Conservatives.


39 posted on 05/24/2013 6:12:33 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: JerseyanExile

I knew we were in real trouble when the memorandum came down saying that it wasn’t fair to evaluate Soldiers based on their performance in combat. You could end a career if the Soldier was one second late on the fitness test or because the Soldier looked fat, but it wasn’t fair to evaluate Soldiers based on their performance in combat? We have an Army of runners with all that entails.


40 posted on 05/24/2013 6:21:51 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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