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My Review of Star Trek Into Darkness
Poems and Essays of GJ Gillespie ^ | May 30, 2013 | GJ Gillespie

Posted on 05/30/2013 9:12:47 PM PDT by garjog

My Review of Star Trek Into Darkness -- short version: wait to rent it.

Long version: Disappointingly annoying.

What follows could be considered a spoiler, but there is nothing original in this film, so there is nothing that can be spoiled. Sorry.

We went to see Star Trek into Darkness on Saturday. Very crowded and had to sit close. I was an original fan, captivated by the television series in the late 1960s, with Star Trek scrap books and posters, models of space ships and everything.

There are serious problems with the Into Darkness script that are not merely anathema to Trekkies. First we discover that the villain is a famous one from the original series. He has a British rather than Latin accent and doesn't look at all like the other character. So the casting was wrong. But, we are baffled how this villain will re-appear in the future of the life of the crew who begins the Five Year Mission at the end of the film. Won't they all know who he is?

Also, a tribble appears. But, we don't see tribbles until the crew is well into their mission in the future. It is a life form that they discover in their voyage, which this crew hasn't begun.

THEN Spock has a romantic relationship with Uhura. Wrong. Officers in the military, or any professional, are not going to be kissing each other on duty. And we all know that Vulcans have a mating ritual that occurs every seven years. Vulcans don't date. This is out of character for Spock. (You know that a focus group of writers said that they had to add romance).

In the same way this dog's breakfast of a script adds a new female character, an admiral's daughter, as a "second science officer", apparently to add romance to planned sequels and perhaps for gender equity. So, in addition to Kirk, Spock and Bones, we now have a hot blond babe. This is like adding a fourth female Musketeer to please feminist reviewers .

Then Kirk is killed by radiation and resurrected exactly like Spock in one of the first Star Trek films -- that is taking allusion to other films a bit too far. It is more like cutting and pasting.

MORE.

Star Trek shows often made commentary on social or international controversies. Into Darkness apparently is a tip to the Truthers because the Admiral uses deception to purposefully start a war. Every story needs conflict, but to moralize that the war on terror was started by Bush is just plain stupid (and insulting on memorial day).

ALSO, Into Darkness begins with a suicide bombing in which we are led to sympathize with the suicide bomber. He HAD to do it, see? (No, committing suicide and killing 40 innocent people to get what you want is immoral.)

And Chris Pine doesn't look or act like a military trained captain. He looks like an actor rather than a commanding leader.

Finally the show is two hours long, too loud and has long close cuts of faces better suited for television. I could tell that my wife Teresa wanted to walk out about an hour into the show.

Positives: wonderful special effects and endearing imagery that reminds us of what we love about the Star Trek universe.

Let's hope that each and everyone of the writers of this twisted, just-plain-wrong insult of a film are replaced before the next sequel.


TOPICS: Arts/Photography; Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: hollywood; intodarkness; movie; moviereview; scifi; startrek; truthers
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To: garjog
I haven't seen this one yet, but I think you're missing one big plot element from the 2009 movie based on your critique. This Star Trek universe is an alternate one. The people, places, and events are very similar, but they are not the same. Judging it by how well it conforms to the original story is missing the point.
21 posted on 05/30/2013 9:42:43 PM PDT by Sparticus (Tar and feathers for the next dumb@ss Republican that uses the word bipartisanship.)
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To: Thorliveshere
Cumberbatch doesn't look or sound at all like the original Khan.

Why not just create a new villain?

22 posted on 05/30/2013 9:46:13 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Is anyone in this edition of the fine masterpiece major entertainment vehicle product ever seen going to the outhouse?


23 posted on 05/30/2013 9:49:40 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: mountn man
The guy acting as Bones is awesome.

Karl Urban definitely channels DeForest Kelley.

He also played Eomer in Lord of the Rings and is from New Zealand.


24 posted on 05/30/2013 9:52:12 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Hawk1976
This Kirk is totally unreal. Even giving an artistic liscense to make some changes to the story. Kirk had a reputation as a “walking stack of books” and was known to be a very hard student instructor of lower classmen. He was known to be a “by the books” type of Officer until an incident caused him to re-evaluate that position.

I agree. Shatner's Kirk became Captain of the flagship at an early age because he studied and was serious in his youth. Pine's Kirk is the class clown who in no way should be trusted with anything breakable. The audience seems to remember Shatner's Kirk as a lone wolf, but looking at the old episodes, it is mostly unmerited, especially compared to Pine's Kirk. Chris Pine takes it to an extreme it doesn't deserve. If they reboot the series again, I fully expect the Enterprise to be manned by those singing chipmonks.

25 posted on 05/30/2013 9:54:59 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: Thorliveshere

” time to give up on this whole debacle, after all the original Star Trek is a lefty’s wet dream”

Did you notice that they place a transgender character at the helm on the bridge?

How progressive of them.


26 posted on 05/30/2013 9:56:37 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog
I enjoyed all of Lost very much. We started renting them and couldn’t stop.

Yeah, that's how it started for all of us. It's like heroin - it's so awesome in the beginning. You wonder why anyone wouldn't love this stuff. Then, as the seasons go on, you start to get this nagging voice in your head saying, "Something doesn't feel right, here." But you keep going because you're still having a good time. By the last season, you just know, deep down in your gut, that this is all going to end badly. By the last few episodes, it's like you've just explained to your dealer that you don't have any more money, but you really need that fix, so he says "Sure, baby, I'll give you a taste if you just do me one little favor." and then he puts you in a mini-skirt and fishnets and leads you down a dark hallway toward the sounds of a room full of growling barbarians. Finally, when you've finished the finale, it's like waking up in the gutter with a needle hanging out of your arm and an a**hole the size of the Lincoln Tunnel.
27 posted on 05/30/2013 9:57:53 PM PDT by fr_freak
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To: garjog
In the same way this dog's breakfast of a script adds a new female character, an admiral's daughter, as a "second science officer", apparently to add romance to planned sequels and perhaps for gender equity. So, in addition to Kirk, Spock and Bones, we now have a hot blond babe. This is like adding a fourth female Musketeer to please feminist reviewers .

The blonde, while not functional in this movie, actually has a reason to be there in the timeline, so I let that pass. She is Carol Marcus, who will have a fling with Kirk and have a son, and then go off and invent the Genesis device with her son in time for the Wrath of Khan.

28 posted on 05/30/2013 9:58:50 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: garjog; a fool in paradise

I won’t see it if Whippie Goldberg’s not in it, and that’s that!


29 posted on 05/30/2013 9:59:08 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: garjog
Found this photo and see that the two actors do look a like. Still the new Khan doesn't evoke the character of the old one.


30 posted on 05/30/2013 10:00:34 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Sparticus

“This Star Trek universe is an alternate one. “

OK. Good point. I forgot that. I wrote this quickly with not a lot of research.

Now I remember that the new Star Trek was meant to be an alternative universe. That could explain the plot inconsistencies.

The new Khan doesn’t have to be like the old one. The new Kirk can be a playboy instead of sharp by the books guy. A hot babe can be a main character.

But, it seems like a cop out for script writers.


31 posted on 05/30/2013 10:03:48 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: mountn man
Alice Eve/Carol Marcus is hot, but her brief appearance in bra and panties served absolutely no purpose (Except to amuse me).

After two weeks, that movie has deteriorated into a series of bright flashes and some cuts of movement with no form, and lens flares. But still, Carol Marcus in her underwear is one of the few things I can actually remember seeing.

32 posted on 05/30/2013 10:04:32 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: garjog
Now I remember that the new Star Trek was meant to be an alternative universe. That could explain the plot inconsistencies.

Not all of them. Khan needs to be pretty much the same, because he took over a third of the world back in 1993. Then he escaped in his pods to float for 300 years. 300 years later is when the alternate universe forks off, so why would Khan look different?

33 posted on 05/30/2013 10:10:20 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: garjog

Spoiler Alert...I just want to give fair warning...

Overall, I liked it a lot, even more than the 2009 Star Trek movie, which I also liked. Here’s a rundown on what I liked, and also a few things that I didn’t like as much. Surprisingly, I really liked Benedict Cumberbatch as the villain, even though he didn’t match up very well in terms of the established character of Khan from previous appearances. He was very effective in projecting a character that was believably menacing, an opponent that would be difficult to defeat. In fight scenes, he actually seemed convincing as someone who has been genetically engineered to be five times stronger than ordinary humans. I liked the new Engineer Scott quite a bit...he was more than just a bit player in this one, and the scriptwriters, and the actor, succeeded in making him likably vulnerable, funny, and brilliant all at the same time.

The things I didn’t like quite as much...Chris Pine as Captain Kirk is ok, but just not believable as a starship captain...he doesn’t have the gravitas (or the ridiculous overacting either) of William Shatner. Chris Pine is 32, but looks younger, and at times, he almost seems like a teenager. Zachary Quinto as Spock...he’s actually ok too, but his character doesn’t even seem like he’s making any effort at all to reign in his emotions...he’s just too angry or irritated all the time. For me, this just doesn’t quite work for a character that is supposed to be half-Vulcan. When Leonard Nimoy showed any emotion as Spock it worked really well, because even the slightest display of emotion stood out, and was effectively amplified against the predominant backdrop of Vulcan passiveness.

The engine room death scene didn’t work very well, and they shouldn’t have even tried to do it. When Spock died in the 1982 Wrath of Khan, it was very powerful emotionally (for me anyway), partly because there was a strong friendship built up over years between Kirk and Spock. In Star Trek, Into Darkness, the scene had almost zero emotional effect when Spock had to watch his friend Kirk die...these two ‘friends’ barely knew each other in this alternate Star Trek timeline. In fact, it felt really cheap that they even tried to pull a reverse Spock-Kirk death scene, almost like they were trampling on something sacred.


34 posted on 05/30/2013 10:12:20 PM PDT by Texan Tory
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To: garjog

Here is another problem I just heard on another review. We are told that the frozen dudes in the drones are 300 hundred years old. But, that would mean that they were frozen in 1995.


35 posted on 05/30/2013 10:14:52 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: Vince Ferrer

” She is Carol Marcus, who will have a fling with Kirk and have a son, and then go off and invent the Genesis device with her son in time for the Wrath of Khan. “

Right. You are much better informed. I should have done a bit more research. Just jotted down my feelings of dislike after seeing it.


36 posted on 05/30/2013 10:17:58 PM PDT by garjog (Heroes Died. Obama Lied.)
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To: garjog
It's not a bad movie, but it contradicts the "known facts" of Star Trek.
37 posted on 05/30/2013 10:19:43 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: Texan Tory

We’re not going to get the perfect movie so we have to take what they give us. That said, I won’t get my hopes up too high when I eventually see this thing. The scene about the suicide bomber will bother me.


38 posted on 05/30/2013 10:24:13 PM PDT by Ciexyz
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To: BigCinBigD
JJ Abrams is an admitted Star Wars fan who was never a fan of Star Trek. That is like giving the keys to a Synagogue to a Nazi. You know he's going to damage the place just for fun. I hope he dies pennyless in a gutter.

I'm making a list of JJ Abrams fans, reading between the lines, I'm wavering on adding you, I'm not convinced you are one of his biggest fans.

39 posted on 05/30/2013 10:26:22 PM PDT by ansel12 (Social liberalism/libertarianism, empowers, creates and imports, and breeds, economic liberals.)
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To: ansel12

That would be a safe assumption.


40 posted on 05/30/2013 10:28:53 PM PDT by BigCinBigD (...Was that okay?)
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