Posted on 05/30/2013 9:12:47 PM PDT by garjog
Personally, I like the fast pace action and minor switches on old storylines.
It's also more enjoyable than watching the original Kirk and Spock launching an assault on a space nursing home to save the residents who are about to be served an alien ambassador who has been mistaken for a bowl of jello.
Well, that's where they were going...I mean, I considered support for euthanasia for the series after the "Kirk and Spock fight GOD and win" movie. So very flushable.
The "reboot" is fun.
I thought it stunk. My son tried to assuage me with this alternate timeline crap with the parallel of Kirk’s death with Spock in wrath of Khan. He say it is part of taking ownership of the series and making it fresh. This from a guy who hates the new Conan the barbarian movie because he is an Arnold purist.
As tough as the Khan character is I believe he is not that much more than a Klingon is strength.
Chris Pike’s character is not even close to the original Kirk. The affair between Spock and Uhura is BS.
Most of this guy’s issues with the film are due to him not realizing that these films talk place in a new and altered timeline. One where Starfleet has been much more aggressive in it’s explorations (explaining both the early discoveries of Khan and tribbles as well as other Continuity changes.
I saw the movie, thought it better than I expected. The parallels to Wrath of Khan (which the alleged Trek fan writer of this article refers to just as one of the early Trek films) did annoy me and they definitely could have made it a better movie by having it not be Khan.
“Just how much of a ST TOS fan are you?
Khan was suspected to be Sikh, from the northern region of India. As a person from a former British colony it makes a bit of sense for him to have a British accent”
OK, I really need to re-write my review now that more informed fans are correcting details like this.
I thought that Khan was had a Latin accent because Ricardo Montalbán was Mexican and had a thick accent unlike anything British.
Cumberbatch the new Khan didn’t evoke this character.
Ricardo Montalbán
November 25, 1920 January 14, 2009) was a Mexican radio, television, theatre, and film actor. He had a career spanning seven decades, ... From 1977 to 1984 he played Mr. Roarke, the host character in the television series Fantasy Island. He played Khan Noonien Singh in both the 1967 episode “Space Seed” of the original Star Trek series, and the 1982 film Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan.
I thought using Khan for the second movie was a mistake. I understand the desire to use Khan, one of the best characters from TOS, but putting him in the second movie, same as the first run, broke the “new timeline, new ground” model they’d established with the reboot. That being said it was still well executed. Cumberbatch was a great Khan, yeah he’s not the peck rippling manly-man of Montalban, but he does genius well, and he menaced well. The characters are evolving well. Overall the movie was fun, they did play with “larger themes” in a good Star Trek way (where it’s next to the story, not the point of the story, message first story telling tends to be boring story telling). And they setup for a 5 year mission.
After being corrected on errors in my analysis, I re-wrote my review. You can read a better version at my blog. http://gillespiepoems.blogspot.com/2013/05/movie-review-star-trek-out-of-darkness.html
This shows how valuable internet forums are for correcting mistakes. It is great to tap the pool of intelligence here at Free Republic.
After being corrected on errors in my analysis, I re-wrote my review. You can read a better version at my blog. http://gillespiepoems.blogspot.com/2013/05/movie-review-star-trek-out-of-darkness.html
The guy acting as Bones is awesome.
Agreed!
They had George Takei in the 60's
“The affair between Spock and Uhura is BS.”
I thought so, as well. Then I watched some of ST:TOS season 1 and could see I was mistaken. Uhura seemed to be attracted to Spock in several scenes.
With as many mexicans as are in todays America, and more coming in, I think it very likely that in the future Khan would sound like Ricardo.
IMHO the new Spock doesn't pull much of anything off well. Either his acting is horrible, or the writing is bad, or its a combination.
Yes but there was no reciprocal affection.
I enjoyed it...remember, it’s set in an alternate dimension/universe.
That is correct. Khan incorrectly says “two hundred years ago” a couple of times (in ‘Space Seed’ and ‘The Wrath of Khan’) but the year of the Botany Bay’s launch was 1996, during/after the Eugenics Wars.
Part of it is because Zachary Quinto seems to have a narrow range of acting ability. The other part is probably that Zoe isn’t a guy and Zachary just isn’t into it.
“he does genius well, and he menaced well.”
I agree. He was a good villain. I just found the allusion to the other khan problematic as stated above.
You know as much as I didn’t like Into Darkness I do think that the acting was pretty good for all of the cast. It was enjoyable to watch this quality of acting.
Chris Pine didn’t seem to evoke a captain’s ethos. But, maybe he will develop in the part.
I really liked the first new remake. So it is possible.
I dashed off this review quickly, forgetting that others are much more into this series.
yup....any number of interesting sights interwoven and done very well
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