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Hundreds of Former Penn State Football Players Come Out in Support Paterno Lawsuit
statecollege.com ^ | 6-17-13 | Laura Nichols

Posted on 06/17/2013 3:00:44 PM PDT by FlJoePa

In a dramatic show of support for their old coach, more than 300 former Penn State football players are now publicly backing the Paterno family's lawsuit against the NCAA. Former Nittany Lion Brian Masella released a letter on Monday demanding due process and the truth.

"We're glad we're able to show these guys – the Penn State alumni, the student and the trustees willing to step forward that we're behind them 100 percent," Masella tells Statecollege.com. "We want to show them they're not standing there alone, all by themselves, on a cliff."

On May 29, the Paterno family, along with 20 other plaintiffs including former Penn State football players, coaches, trustees and faculty members, sued the NCAA. They have asked a judge to abolish the consent decree which would reverse Penn State's sanctions.

Those sanctions include a $60 million fine, a significant loss of scholarships for the football team, a four-year postseason ban for the football team and all wins vacated under Paterno between 1998-2011.

Masella says the letter is not sanctioned by Penn State. At the trustees' meeting in March, several former football players addressed the board, voicing support for Paterno. Later, they decided they had to do something more. The letter is intended to show the plaintiffs that a large contingent of Lettermen is in their corner.

Masella started with the contacts he had in his email, and it grew from there. Players forwarded his email to other players, and it traveled around the country.

"We wanted to do something for them, to bolster what they have done. We think it's totally brave we do this, obviously, with the intent of finding the truth," Masella says. "We support them 100 percent."

Masella believes this is "the right thing to do."

"We thought it would be a great gesture," Masella says. The more than 300 signatures span six decades of Penn State football, and include signatures from some Penn State greats, including Franco Harris, Todd Blackledge, OJ McDuffie, Kerry Collins and Paul Posluszny. It also includes the signatures of former coaches Dick Anderson and Booker Brooks. Both men testified for the defense in the Jerry Sandusky child sex abuse trial last year.

The letter and the names of those who signed it appears below:

Letter from Former Penn State Football Players:

On May 30, 2013, twenty people – including five Penn State Trustees, four faculty members, two former coaches, and nine former student-athletes, filed a lawsuit challenging the NCAA's sanctions against Penn State.

On the same day, the plaintiffs sent the former Penn State football players a letter explaining their rationale for taking legal action. The letter notes that the plaintiffs intend to fight for Penn State's honor and that they hope the former student-athletes "will be supportive of these efforts."

We, the undersigned, indeed support the plaintiffs' action in launching their suit.

Like them, we reject the NCAA's assertion that a "culture of reverence for the football program" allowed Jerry Sandusky's crimes to occur. We agree with the plaintiffs that the Freeh Report, which formed the foundation for the sanctions – was fundamentally flawed.

We stand with our nine brother Lettermen and the other eleven Penn Staters in demanding "fairness, due process, truth, and a just outcome." Everyone – Sandusky's victims, Penn Staters, and the public at large – deserves to know the complete truth."


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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; joe; ncaa; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; pennstate; pennsylvania; psu
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This isn't going away until:

1) the 11-09-11 B.O.T. admits they failed miserably in their duties and the CEO's of Merck, US Steel, and BNY Mellon (Frazier, Surma, and Peetz) were more interested in covering their own personal reputations than standing up for the University they supposedly served

2) the truth about the second mile, their mysterious finances, and their connections to the political machinery within the state of PA is revealed

3) The repeated failure of the state and local agencies - which to this day leaves kids at risk - is uncovered and corrected

4) The freeh report is shown for what it is in court - a fictional piece of garbage

5) the ncaa admits their collusion w/ the b.o.t and freeh, their laziness, and their malicious intent when it came to Joe and Penn State.

Simple as that. Sigh...

1 posted on 06/17/2013 3:00:44 PM PDT by FlJoePa
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To: FlJoePa

Too bad JoPa wasn’t led away too with Sandusky to live in prison jammies. I have no sympathy for any sodomites or people who allow it when it’s right under your damned nose. It’s pathetic how they’re making JoPa out to be some kind of saint.


2 posted on 06/17/2013 3:04:26 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: FlJoePa

Go joe Pa and Penn State. Pay up!!!! God bless the entire Penn State community for the travesty they went through.


3 posted on 06/17/2013 3:06:42 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: FlJoePa

Ped State should be razed until no stone stands upon another and the ground sown with salt.


4 posted on 06/17/2013 3:07:37 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: FlJoePa

While they’re at it dig “JoePa” the enabler up, set fire to the corpse and feed what’s left to wild dogs.


5 posted on 06/17/2013 3:08:48 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Uncle Chip; P.O.E.

PA Ping


6 posted on 06/17/2013 3:20:18 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

You live in a dream world.

Your heroes are plastic action figures.

Jer 17:9
The heart [is] deceitful above all [things], and desperately wicked: who can know it?


7 posted on 06/17/2013 3:30:20 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: FlJoePa; mickie; flaglady47; oswegodeee
I'm addressing only the sanctions, not the sex scandal.

There should be no sanctions as listed in the article above. I think there are more than that list shows.

I don't blame the alumni supporting the lawsuit. I'm with them in spirit.

I don't believe in punishing the innocent for five consecutive years down the pike.

I don't believe the NCAA is a court of law picking out on their own who is guilty of what.

I remember being in our crowded church on the Sunday morning after the assassination of MLK. The young, dewy-eyed substitute pastor fresh out of seminary leaned forward during his sermon, and pointing here and there and almost in a shout, said over and over, "YOU pulled the trigger, and YOU pulled the trigger, and YOU pulled the trigger......"

An usher, plus our township supervisor and I immediately got up and walked out.

As a conservative, I don't believe in socialistic mass guilt, nor mass innocence, nor not much mass anything....and I don't feel any now-and-future innocents in the Penn State football program as well as their now-and-future innocent fans should be punished for nothing just so the NCAA can proudly flex its muscles and scattershot its considerable firepower at the innocent and guilty at will.

Leni

8 posted on 06/17/2013 3:31:45 PM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Lurker

bump


9 posted on 06/17/2013 3:37:49 PM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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To: laweeks

public schools in America are notorious for being a hotbed of pedophiles

have you marched down to your local public school and demanded they fire any and all homosexuals and pedophiles?

no?

then you’re as guilty as Joe (actually, Joe reported it as soon as he was informed)


10 posted on 06/17/2013 3:39:40 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: FlJoePa

Penn State is a cult. More Koolaid, please.


11 posted on 06/17/2013 3:44:12 PM PDT by hometoroost
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To: FlJoePa

Ah man, c’mon and give it up.


12 posted on 06/17/2013 3:45:30 PM PDT by Jay Redhawk (Zombies are just intelligent, good looking democrats.)
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To: editor-surveyor

My hero has always been my Dad.


13 posted on 06/17/2013 3:54:52 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Did you have temporary amnesia when you posted this?


14 posted on 06/17/2013 3:58:35 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

Not sure I understand your post.


15 posted on 06/17/2013 4:00:25 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

Wonder what the NCAA Kool Aid drinkers will say if the NCAA settles out of court with Paterno family and restores his wins?

If The NCAA does not settle....they need to fire their attorneys. Supreme Court precedent already against NCAA


16 posted on 06/17/2013 4:04:33 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Don't Blame Me For La Raza Rubio....I Voted For Alex Snitker)
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To: sten
Have you marched down to your local public school and demanded they fire any and all homosexuals and pedophiles?
No?
Then you’re as guilty as Joe (actually, Joe reported it as soon as he was informed)

Sorry, but I don't presently know of any pedophiles in our school system. If I did, I would definitely report it to the POLICE immediately, not to a co-worker.

JoPa apparently had years and years to turn Sandusky in and didn't do $hit.

And for the school to try to make a saint out of the guy is disturbing. We can't ruin a winning football program, now, can we? Pathetic. Ruin the lives of little kids, and keep the football game rolling. What a college?

17 posted on 06/17/2013 4:10:42 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: sten

He did the absolute minimum required by law. If you found out some pe rv was ass~raping your son repeatedly, would you accept “i told my supervisor, and then did nothing.”?


18 posted on 06/17/2013 4:11:05 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: chae; laweeks

You both aren’t very educated on this case, so I’ll be kind.

After receiving vague and sketchy information about an incident involving JS and Victim #2 (which Victim #2 has said since day one never happened), Joe sent Mike McQueary to his superior, as well as the head of the Penn State Police.

That is notifying the police. No? Really?

From the Altoona Mirror a month or so ago during a bomb scare (Altoona is nearly an hour away):

“That person returned around the time the Penn State University Police Department bomb squad arrived, leading to an examination of the note - which said something like “there’s a bomb in here” - and a check of the rest of the trash can contents and surrounding area revealed nothing, Books said.”

Looks like a legit police force to me.

MM has changed his story more times than we all change our underwear. At one point he actually told players and friends (once everyone considered him a coward - if he saw what the AG’s office SAID he saw - and did nothing) that he chased after the boy into the night to try and find out his identity. Of course he didn’t testify to this, because it’s just another lie. He DID testify that he never witnessed a rape in the showers in the Lasch Building though. He’s delusional and obviously has his own problems.

He was manipulated by the AG in an effort to attract more victims. It worked - more came forward. Good for them.

Joe did what he was supposed to do and media headlines about rapes in showers that never happened can’t change that. He’s at peace and you’re both suckers for buying all the BS.

The real problems lie within the shaky financials of the second mile and the utter failures of DPW and CYS. Kids are at risk RIGHT NOW because these failures aren’t being corrected.

Joe Paterno has and had NOTHING to do with the second mile and these agencies that granted JS foster status to dozens of boys and adoptions to 5 others.

JS was a RETIRED coach at Penn State. Most of you don’t even realize this. He was given emeritus status by the B.O.T., not Joe Paterno.

Meanwhile, Bernie Fine was a CURRENT coach at Syracuse and because 1/2 of espn graduated from SU, they sat on evidence until the statute of limitations allowed them to let the cat out of the bag with no repercussions.

Jim Boeheim called the accusers “money grubbers”
Joe Paterno said that “IN HINDSIGHT, I wish I’d have done more.” I bet the people at Logan Airport say the same thing every day of their lives since 9-11. It’s not an admission of guilt.


19 posted on 06/17/2013 4:48:23 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

The media smear against Paterno was there to cover the fact that the molester/rapist was guilty as hell and NAMBLA in all but name.

Thanks FlJoePa.


20 posted on 06/17/2013 5:11:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (McCain or Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: FlJoePa

Doesn’t matter how many of his pals are willing to say nice things about him, that scumbag Paterno allowed a predator to go on preying on boys.

I don’t care how many football games he won, or how many of his former players still like him. Facts are facts, and the facts are damning.

Paterno either kept a known liar on his staff, or he knew about Sandusky’s “peculiarities”. There’s no third option.

May be burn in hell for what he let his pal Jerry to do those boys, and shame on any apologists who let him off the book because he was good at football.


21 posted on 06/17/2013 5:27:50 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: chae

Joe was told about the incident the day after it happened. he reported it to the head of the organization who removed access and reported it to the police.

and you’re saying this was the absolute minimum?

i see.

of course, if it were you... you’d run to sandusky’s house and burn it down.

suuuure you would.


22 posted on 06/17/2013 5:31:14 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: SunkenCiv

Well, I think there are reservations there as well Sunken. I firmly believe that JS belongs in jail - make no mistake about it.

But I also think he received a rushed, and not so fair trial. SOME of the victims and their attorneys are looking at PSU as an ATM machine, and a spineless administration that won’t put up a fight will (by nature) encourage that.

The one thing about this case is that it is of such a disgusting subject matter that NO ONE in the media will touch it. Defending Joe or defending Penn State means you encourage and enable pedophilia.

It’s an understandable reaction, but it doesn’t make what has been reported - and even adjudicated (in some counts) thus far the absolute truth.

Kevin Slaten, John Ziegler, Franco Harris, and Ray Blehar have all done outstanding work on this. Slaten brought Bob Costas on board and he now realizes that the freeh report is garbage.

The fact that all these players have now signed on - especially Blackledge - who is the best analyst in college football, and employed by espn - is a light at the end of the tunnel.

The work by Jim Clemente (who is THE expert in this field), along with the gravitas of Dick Thornburgh is another step.

But you see right here on THIS forum how hard it is. Of all places to believe the MSM and people like louis freeh....I would think we could at least wait until we hear what Tim Curley has to say before seeing some of the things I see here.

Penn State is a fantastic University. Joe Paterno led an exemplary life. Penn State Football has been a model program for as long as most of us have been alive. The characterizations of all of them is not fair, and I (for one) won’t go away until we get the truth.


23 posted on 06/17/2013 5:32:33 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: laweeks

i see.

so you would run to the police with hearsay, demand action, and take the law into your own hands when you felt nothing had been done.

yup, you’re a screaming nutjob that has no idea how the law and law enforcement works and would find yourself in prison pretty quick. i’m guessing you’d do squat... otherwise, you’d be raging at the homosexuals teaching the kids in the public schools in your town


24 posted on 06/17/2013 5:37:24 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: highball
that scumbag Paterno allowed a predator to go on preying on boys.

and your evidence for this is what????

Facts are facts, and the facts are damning.

and what facts are those???

You all have the same grasp on our legal system as Ben Crump, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and the Trayvonistas trying to railroad an innocent man down in Sanford, Florida.

25 posted on 06/17/2013 5:40:51 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: sten
have you marched down to your local public school and demanded they fire any and all homosexuals and pedophiles? no? then you’re as guilty as Joe

Have you?

26 posted on 06/17/2013 5:47:21 PM PDT by Lizavetta (You get what you tolerate)
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To: Lizavetta

Sten wasn’t the one running his internet mouth, condemning a dead man with absolutely no proof of any misconduct on his part, other than sensationalized media headlines.

I assume you would be smart enough to not do the same, correct?


27 posted on 06/17/2013 5:53:13 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: sten

Wow! Do you think running to the local high school and demanding that they get rid of all homosexuals is not impulsive and dangerous?

In JoPa’s case, HE KNEW EXACTLY what Sandusky was doing for many, many years and didn’t to a damn thing!

Who’s the nut job? JoPa was complicit by NOT TELLING THE POLICE WHAT HE KNEW INSTANTLY. Instead, he let the football seasons go along, knowing fully well that Sandusky was a stinking pervert and didn’t do a thing! I’m nutz?

Guess you can’t win with a Penn State fan, but I think it’s a shame that JoPa didn’t live long enough to go to a trial for his part in the madness that was going on in the locker rooms.


28 posted on 06/17/2013 6:06:18 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: laweeks

he knew exactly what? what evidence do you have of anything you’re spewing?
ans: none

just another crazy buckeye fan

but hey... i’m glad to know the instant you hear someone gossiping about some such event, you’ll be there to burn their house down if the cops don’t do as you expect


29 posted on 06/17/2013 6:11:58 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: laweeks

Now you’re just writing fiction.

Sad to see stuff like this here. Can you read? Have you read the freeh report? The King & Spalding report? ANYTHING from Ziegler, Blehar? Have you watched Costas backtrack?

You don’t even read my posts for crying out loud. I just pointed out to your dumb ass how Joe DID go to the police, yet you ignored it. I don’t want to call you names but sheesh, you deserve it.

Do you know ANYTHING about this? I don’t think you do. I understand you’re probably a Buckeye fan, but grow up and learn something before you go off on people like that.


30 posted on 06/17/2013 6:20:23 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: laweeks
In JoPa’s case, HE KNEW EXACTLY what Sandusky was doing for many, many years and didn’t to a damn thing!

And what is your evidence for that accusation???

JoPa was complicit by NOT TELLING THE POLICE WHAT HE KNEW INSTANTLY.

And what exactly was it that he knew??? All he knew was the story that Mike McQueary told him -- a story that has changed many times over the years and was not believed by the Sandusky jury.

You sound just like Al Sharpton who loves to leve; serious charges but without evidence. Are you sure you're on the right forum???

31 posted on 06/17/2013 6:26:10 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: FlJoePa
I just pointed out to your dumb ass how Joe DID go to the police,

Golly, he went to the police and let the pervert continue to roam the campus, use the shower rooms, etc., for HOW MANY YEARS?

32 posted on 06/17/2013 6:28:15 PM PDT by laweeks
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To: FlJoePa

Clearly these player should have had better helmets.


33 posted on 06/17/2013 6:35:49 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: muir_redwoods

Maurice Clarett is smarter than this.


34 posted on 06/17/2013 6:37:20 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: All
Ray Blehar is on the edge of this. He is a lifelong federal investigator. His reputation is impeccable, and he knows more about this than anyone sans maybe Ziegler.

His website is here.

John Ziegler's (of Sarah Palin fame) website is here

Collective efforts are here

All these credible people - most with no ties to Penn State sticking their necks out doing fantastic investigative work - for no money. Contrast that with espn.

I don't want to speak for Blehar, but he has said repeatedly that there is a federal investigation underway and more indictments are on their way. Of course, they have absolutely nothing to do with the football program at Penn State.

35 posted on 06/17/2013 6:54:17 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Uncle Chip

No innocent man here, just the innocent boys Paterno couldn’t have cared less about.

Read his own testimony. Either Paterno deliberately kept a liar on his staff, or he knew that Sandusky was diddling kids. Those are the only two options.

Oh, but it’s okay. Football and all.


36 posted on 06/17/2013 8:31:47 PM PDT by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: highball

Paterno’s kids played around with Sandusky growing up.

Do you think Paterno would have permitted that if he knew Sandusky was pedophile???

Do you think Mrs Paterno would have let her kids anywhere near him???

I read his testimony??? Did you???

Have you read anything in this case or are you just willfully ignorant???

You are no better than Al Sharpton.


37 posted on 06/17/2013 8:51:22 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: FlJoePa

Thanks for posting this latest news/article and various links.

Interesting ongoing developments, even some behind the scenes my oldest brother is involved with...and he’s one of the vocal and involved alumni who didn’t like Paterno’s coaching and wanted him to retire a decade or more ago, lol.

I really hope we succeed in getting Seoond Mile investigated fully. The Media continues to ignore this “elephant in the room.” It shouldn’t still surprise me that low info people continue to blame this on Paterno, the one person who actually reported what he was told, while ignoring the multi-million dollar charity where Sandusky’s victims orignated from...but the Media had their scapegoat,the corrupt NCAA had their payoff, the PSU Admin and BOT had their asses covered,politicians, their donors, and Child Protective Services were off the hook, and the masses had their entertainment and bloodlust satisfied.

And the masses still don’t realize that Sandusky was acquitted of the assault charges regarding the incident in the on campus building shower. The charge that Media played over and over again, that has the entertainment watchers all up in arms is the charge he got an acquittal for lack of evidence.

None of this had anything to do with the football program at Penn State or the “football culture” or “sports culture” that liberals are trying their damndest to decimate and place the blame of all societal ills on. It has more to do with the PC/Liberal culture that has infested our society.

Where’s the media reporting on his sex crimes against boys, all boys? Can’t say that, it’s all about child sexual abuse, no mention of the sex of his targets. Same thing they did with the Catholic Church homosexual sex abuse scandal. Same thing many of the masses are doing, Conservatives and liberals alike.

Makes my head spin, lol.

Most of the info will come out but we won’t get the 24/7 news cycle on it. The masses, of all varieties, won’t see it. The Media set and followed their Agenda.


38 posted on 06/17/2013 9:00:08 PM PDT by Twink
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To: highball
"How could they think that? They really think that if I knew someone was hurting kids, I wouldn’t stop it? Don't they know me? Don't they know what my life has been about?"

This from a man who chastised his daughter for eating a cucumber slice from her sister's plate (only one had paid for the all you can eat salad bar) to the point where he called her a shyster and stormed out of the restaurant.

And you believe he enabled a pedophile based on what? Media headlines and an egregious AG's presentment? The same AG's office that initially praised him for his cooperation and said he was accused of no crime?

Where do people like you get off making claims like you do?

Just a bunch of nuts - jealous of Joe's successes is all I can think of. People like you and the jackals in the media (who he told to eff off time and time again) were waiting to get him. JS gave you an opportunity of a lifetime. Enjoy it, because none of it is true and it WILL be proven in time.

Sad that some that couldn't beat his players on the field and especially in the classroom resort to this. But envy and jealousy are apparently powerful motivations.

39 posted on 06/17/2013 9:11:16 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: Twink

I’ve been amazed at the ignorance on this forum - one I’ve been a proud member of since reporting live from the 2000 election nonsense from an office overlooking downtown West Palm Beach.

Many times I’ve considered leaving simply because of this issue. But I’m resolute and I don’t care how many obscene freepmails I receive, I know what’s right and wrong.

Joe was right, they are wrong. Period.

Thanks for your support and hope to bump into you at a tailgate sometime.


40 posted on 06/17/2013 9:19:08 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

The Media and those who believe everything they present, succeeded in tearing down a good man, a good college football coach and a football program they detested. They just didn’t count on the biggest Alumni Association to fight back. The BOT and Admin of Penn State didn’t count on the biggest Alumni Association (and that’s not the official alumni association but the real alunni and current students who are the real numbers) to fight back. And we are fighting back. That seems to enrage many people, lol. I love it. I’m not pissed off at Paterno. I’m pissed off at the liberal admin and BOT and politicians and Media and academia. I’m pissed off at so called conservatives who continue to fall for this stuff.


41 posted on 06/17/2013 9:28:35 PM PDT by Twink
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To: Twink

Like I said, I expect more from some on this forum. Ignorance is one thing. Petty jealousy is another. If you could see some of the freepmails I’ve received over the past 18 months, you’d swear they were from DU posters.

Sad, sick, and unwarranted. Just like Marco Rubio, who I once had great faith in, screw them all - right to to the wall.


42 posted on 06/17/2013 9:37:55 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

The entire Penn State Board needs to be dismissed and replaced immediately.


43 posted on 06/17/2013 9:43:38 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: laweeks

What’s pathetic are kneejerk morons like you.


44 posted on 06/17/2013 9:45:05 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: laweeks

Actually,

1. The state of PA investigated Sandusky in 1998.

2. Despite the state not charging him with a crime PSU and Paterno force him out at the end of the 1998 season. So they did in fact do something.

So what else exactly are you claiming that Paterno or PSU should have done?

A. Should they have executed Sandusky?

B. Should they have made up evidence so the state would charge him?

C. Should they have shamed him in addition to firing him and banned him from campus?

I am not exactly sure what one should do if a long time colleague/friend is investigated for a heinous crime, BUT NOT CHARGED.


45 posted on 06/17/2013 9:58:57 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

This is a misconception. Joe and PSU did not force JS out after 1998. Joe told him he was spending too much time with the second mile and that he would never be the HC at PSU.

At the time, the state was offering a sweetheart retirement deal for state employees, and JS took it. With no defensive coordinator, PSU hired JS back for one year in 1999 as an independent contractor.

At that time, JS was in serious negotiations with UVA for their head coaching position. If the Jets hadn’t lost nearly every game in the last half of that season he would have had the job if he wanted it. Al Groh bailed on the Jets before he was fired and jumped JS for the UVA job.


46 posted on 06/17/2013 10:04:36 PM PDT by FlJoePa ("Success without honor is an unseasoned dish; it will satisfy your hunger, but it won't taste good")
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To: FlJoePa

It’s everywhere. I’m getting used to it even though I hate it. I don’t get online much and don’t give a damn what anyone thinks of me (other than my family and friends) so it’s easy to walk away from the computer or other things.It’s easy to walk away from toxic people after venting or discussing it with people I care about.

I’m glad you’re posting about this stuff even though I don’t understand why you do it. It seems primarily heavy in the anti-Penn State, anti-Paterno realm just like DU and Huff Post is...hey, they share that, lol. Conservatives and Liberals agree. Shame neither deal with facts in this case.

I figure the most obnoxious people must contrbute the most since they’re allowed to stay regardless of how they ignore facts, lol. I don’t care either way. I say what I think and everyone else can KMA.


47 posted on 06/17/2013 10:05:43 PM PDT by Twink
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To: FlJoePa

That’s disgraceful! You shouldn’t be receiving nasty freepmails. You’re much nicer than I am. I would (and have) told them to GFY. ;)


48 posted on 06/17/2013 10:37:12 PM PDT by Twink
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To: FlJoePa

Why do you think PSU told Sandusky he would never become the head coach. That is a signal to resign/retire in those types of jobs. That is how you force someone out.

Saying Sanduski coulda woulda shoulda have gotten the UVa job is meaningless. Not everyone is Rutgers. I suspect that UVa would have caught wind of the investigation and not touched Sandusky. College do not hire people in even semi high profile positions like faculty members after such an investigation.


49 posted on 06/17/2013 10:51:35 PM PDT by JLS
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To: MinuteGal

“As a conservative, I don’t believe in socialistic mass guilt, nor mass innocence, nor not much mass anything....and I don’t feel any now-and-future innocents in the Penn State football program as well as their now-and-future innocent fans should be punished for nothing just so the NCAA can proudly flex its muscles and scattershot its considerable firepower at the innocent and guilty at will.”

Bingo. The NCAA has gotten too big for its own britches.


50 posted on 06/18/2013 3:01:59 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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