Posted on 06/18/2013 12:20:09 PM PDT by edcoil
I have a question, Here's what happened, my daughter is attending college in Colorado, we are the registered owners of the car so, we were sent a traffic cam photo of her and her license play showing no current year tag sticker.
I had her take a photo of the registration and emailed it to me showing it was register. She was also stopped by a local police and he verified it was registered and said he would make a note in her file that either the sticker was either stolen or came off. We got another sticker and mailed it to her.
I have submitted to the Denver police all this and they still say I have to pay $150.00 fine.
What law was broken?
Sure. The Laws and Police are there for the purpose of raising money for the Welfare State.
Anything goes.
First MISTAKE “college in Colorado” but as it looks like you are “living” in Calipornia WHAT’S THE DIFFERANCE!
Trying to slowly get everyone out of CA
Does the ticket say anywhere that it is a courtesy notice or does it tell you anywhere to not contact the court?
I would not pay it
But I would be prepared for bureacracy nightmares too (I love them)
Learn it
Love it
Live it.
Pay the fine. Be a good sheeple.
Or - you could take off from work and spend a day in court hoping and praying you could get off. But you won’t. If anything you might get the fine INCREASED with additional court costs and then where would you be?
Pay the fine.
(Baaaaa)
As a Denver resident I can tell you that photo cameras have nothing to do with traffic safety, the government’s purported rationale....the cowardly politicians (state and local) who are afraid to openly ask for more tax increases choose instead to come for your money through the back door via “fees”. Here we are supposed to vote on any tax increases so instead these hijacks are deemed fees. So, diminish your opinion of government a little more and just pay it.
RAT’s have taken over the state.
Is she a student at Boulder?
Go for it.
yes.
Letter stating after a review of the documents I provide it’s been determined that the citation(s) are valid and are my responsibility.
If I contest, I can go to court there.
Denver cops leave much to be desired. They could not read my proof of insurance and said it had no date on it. I had to take a day off and drive form Cedar City Utah to prove that the cop was wrong. They canceled my court appearance so it cost me gas and vacation and I did not even get my day in court.
In Georgia, if you stop/stall/break down/get held up by cars ahead of you in an intersection with a traffic cam and the light changes and your tag gets “snapped”, you really have no recourse but to pay the ticket. They argue that traffic cams are a safety measure, but it is nothing more than a revenue generator, and a method to track everyone’s movements and don’t think the “courts” aren’t party to the scam.
Why doesn’t someone get a proposition on the ballot to eliminate said cameras? If there are so many in Colorado opposed to the cameras it should be easy.
Photo radar tickets may not be worth the paper they’re written on
The reason they still say the fine has to be paid is because the car did not have a current sticker. The reason doesn't matter.
I had a sticker stolen from my car once. In Denver there is a traffic referee you can take the ticket too and plea bargain it down provided you can show you got a replacement sticker. I was told stealing stickers is fairly common so people don't have to have current insurance or pay a registration fee.
Mailed
What does the ticket itself say? Does it say 'courtesy notice' or 'do not contact the court'? Does it have the address of the court on it?
Of course the letter is going to say that the 'citation' is valid --they want your money!
If the ticket itself says, 'courtesy notice' or 'do not contact the court', or if it doesn't have the address of the court, then it is not legally valid and you can throw it away without worry about legal repercussions.
I refer you to this page put up by the Denver Police Dept. (See: Questions about your photo citation?:
What happens if I ignore the Notice of Violation?
Failure to respond to the notice may result in a Penalty Assessment Notice being authorized by the Denver Police Department. This Penalty Assessment Notice will be personally served by a process server and will result in a service fee of at least $29.00. If a Penalty Assessment Notice is served you will be required to appear in court...
"May" is the operative word here. Note that it does not say "will" or "shall". Jury summons also use the word "May" when talking about penalties for failure to respond.
Will I receive points on my driving record for a photo speed/red light ticket?
No. Photo Speed violations are zero point Traffic Infractions that are not reported to the Department of Motor Vehicles.
When did you ever hear about a speeding ticket that was a zero-point infraction?
It sounds to me like this ticket is voluntary. Like I say if it has the words, 'courtesy notice' or 'do not contact the courts', or it doesn't have the address of the court on it, then it's a shakedown notice, not a ticket.
For more info, see: http://www.highwayrobbery.net/
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