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‘They watched me in the bath via my laptop’: How webcam hackers spy on women in their homes
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 16:50 EST, 19 June 2013 | Ryan Kisiel and Lucy Osborne

Posted on 06/20/2013 5:13:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A university student has revealed how she was spied on by hackers while she was in the bath. English student Rachel Hyndman was using her laptop to watch a DVD in her bathroom when she noticed her webcam suddenly turned itself on.

Miss Hyndman, 20, from Glasgow, said: “I was in the bath, trying to relax, and then programs on my computer came on like a ghost was using it. I couldn’t regain control of it. It was terrifying to think people had been looking at me without me knowing. I wondered how often they had done it without me realizing. The thought someone had access to me in this private moment is horrifying.” …

Called “ratting”, hackers can send out an internet virus that allows them access to a person’s desktop computer or laptop without their knowledge. They can then switch on the webcam—built in to most new computers—and watch people in the privacy of their living rooms and bedrooms without them realizing they are being closely observed. …

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Society; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: peepingtom; ratting; uk; webcams
This was in the news two years ago, but it happened in the Land of Fruits and Nuts.
1 posted on 06/20/2013 5:13:59 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

I have tape over the camera eye as we speak because I read about the risk of spying via the camera right here on Free Republic


2 posted on 06/20/2013 5:17:07 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Olog-hai

I always have electronics on nearby when I bathe. What could go wrong.


3 posted on 06/20/2013 5:17:37 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: Olog-hai

I’ve had the cameras on my devices taped over since the high school story a couple of years ago. I’m just as paranoid as I was in high school but the world has caught up and made me reasonable, even prudent.


4 posted on 06/20/2013 5:21:23 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: yldstrk

my phone cam as well as my desktop - my kids think Im nuts


5 posted on 06/20/2013 5:23:52 AM PDT by Revelation 911 (hump scratching n'er do well.....all strung out on chicken wings and venison jerky)
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To: Olog-hai

This is a byproduct of the OS and you must consider:

Anything used to “go out to the web” or “communicate across a network” can be used almost anytime the device is on.

This goes for phones, tablets, web-enabled TVs and of course, computers.

I would expect that, were operating system manufacturers under the same scrutiny as, say, the automotive industry, there would be manufacturer standards for compliance and safety on the operating systems just like there are safety standards for cars and trucks.

The unintended consequence of that, of course, would be $750 operating systems.


6 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:10 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Olog-hai

That’s terrible! The bums didn’t even leave their credit card numbers!


7 posted on 06/20/2013 5:24:13 AM PDT by count-your-change (you don't have to be brilliant, not being stupid is enough)
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To: Olog-hai

For parents concerned about this with the kids, a drop or two of clear nail polish or super glue on the kids’ webcam does wonders. Let it dry, and then test out the camera resolution - it’ll probably be blurry enough that you don’t have to worry even if the kids remove that tape (then tape it too, so the kids know you don’t want them using it).


8 posted on 06/20/2013 5:26:09 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Olog-hai

Make sense.

This is what Eschelon and the NSA
and Obama-the-Undocumented purport is “transparency”.


9 posted on 06/20/2013 5:26:33 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Olog-hai
I guess she didn't get the message.


10 posted on 06/20/2013 5:28:57 AM PDT by McGruff (I can't speak to the law here. The law is irrelevant,)
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To: Olog-hai
Simple solution:

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11 posted on 06/20/2013 5:33:43 AM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: Olog-hai

I hope no one has ever done this to my computer. Then again, if they did and caught me naked, it would probably horrify them so much that they’d never “ratt” again.


12 posted on 06/20/2013 5:34:52 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Larry Lucido

“I always have electronics on nearby when I bathe. What could go wrong.”

LOL! My first thought!


13 posted on 06/20/2013 5:36:04 AM PDT by homegroan (Never make someone a priority when all you are to them is an option....)
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To: Larry Lucido

I read my Kindle when I’m in the tub.


14 posted on 06/20/2013 5:38:01 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Olog-hai

I’d give her a “not guilty” but it looks like she has a big butt...so not sure.


15 posted on 06/20/2013 5:38:29 AM PDT by BobL (To us it's a game, to them it's personal - therefore they win.)
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To: Larry Lucido
noticed her webcam suddenly turned itself on.

I can see where this is an issue. You turn it off and it refuses to stay off. Worse than those birthday candles that can't be blown out!

Guess it is true, if you want it off, pull the battery!

16 posted on 06/20/2013 5:39:48 AM PDT by EBH (The government that sits in Washington, D.C. is not the United States government.)
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To: Larry Lucido
I always have electronics on nearby when I bathe. What could go wrong.

I can multitask while bathing, I like to make toast.

17 posted on 06/20/2013 5:43:10 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (Jesus, Please Save America!)
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To: Olog-hai; All

Note to everyone taping over their webcam lenses....

Your microphones are still on.


18 posted on 06/20/2013 5:51:20 AM PDT by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I buy $0.50 2nd hand dead tree books for water usage. I even call them *water books*.

Electrocution aside, I am not risking a $200 or more digital item to water damage. I have dropped enough books into the hot tub or pool to know it can and does happen.


19 posted on 06/20/2013 5:51:40 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: 3Fingas

NOOOOO....simple solutions are NOT allowed! Obama’s cronies need $70M to investigate this further!


20 posted on 06/20/2013 5:58:03 AM PDT by Mich Patriot (PITCH BLACK is the new "transparent")
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To: Olog-hai

What are the odds the camera would be pointing to her in the bathroom?
I’m skeptical.


21 posted on 06/20/2013 6:01:10 AM PDT by lacrew (Mr. Soetoro, we regret to inform you that your race card is over the credit limit.)
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To: yldstrk

“I have tape over the camera eye”

Ditto.


22 posted on 06/20/2013 6:03:17 AM PDT by maggief
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To: GreenAccord

In newer devices how do you tape over the camera embedded into the screen? If you don’t think they are there you are misguided.


23 posted on 06/20/2013 6:06:40 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: yldstrk

How does she know it was not an authorized read goverment hacker. As much as is going on right now I would not doubt it.


24 posted on 06/20/2013 6:07:37 AM PDT by lowflyn (Im nobody, just ask a liberal)
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To: maggief; yldstrk

I am an IT guy and don’t know the answer to this. Can the camera be turned on without the indicator light being turned on?

A sneaky system guy or spy might short out or cover the indicator light. I don’t know how many people would catch on that the light isn’t working. Maybe, it is a good idea not to take your laptops to the Geek Squad and other people, and to also test your camera and indicator every once in a while.


25 posted on 06/20/2013 6:09:56 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: FreeAtlanta

I have always wondered when DISH network or Time Warner need in the house if they are replacing equipment with smart equipment or looking for guns.................


26 posted on 06/20/2013 6:15:36 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Future Snake Eater

I read my Kindle when I’m in the tub.

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We know.


27 posted on 06/20/2013 6:20:05 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Olog-hai

Some people are just too stupid to own a computer.


28 posted on 06/20/2013 6:26:37 AM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: Olog-hai

Sharyl Attkisson was writing Fast and Furious stories in her bathtub?


29 posted on 06/20/2013 6:34:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Some people are just too stupid to own a computer.

In the biz they are referred to as the "prime marketing demographic"...


30 posted on 06/20/2013 6:35:42 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: muir_redwoods

It happened to me. Some guy not only watched my family and I but also was able to listen to us and he repeated some of our conversations.

Ever since then, I’ve taped the camera up. I just wish there was a way to trace back that creep who did that.


31 posted on 06/20/2013 6:36:01 AM PDT by dragonblustar
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To: yldstrk

same here,, for 2-years now,,nobody needs to see my ugly mug.


32 posted on 06/20/2013 6:40:22 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Olog-hai

33 posted on 06/20/2013 6:57:12 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: Larry Lucido

I have a friend who caught her youngest son in the shower with his iPhone in a zip lock baggy texting his friends...


34 posted on 06/20/2013 7:12:48 AM PDT by Syntyr (Happiness is two at low eight!)
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To: McGruff

Electricity + Water = Ice


35 posted on 06/20/2013 7:17:38 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Tactical Awareness. Use your brain. Then bring the pain.)
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To: FreeAtlanta
Can the camera be turned on without the indicator light being turned on?

Where is the indicator light, and how does one know if it is on--Is it bright, what color does it show?

A sneaky system guy or spy might short out or cover the indicator light. I don’t know how many people would catch on that the light isn’t working. Maybe, it is a good idea not to take your laptops to the Geek Squad and other people, and to also test your camera and indicator every once in a while.

How does one test his/her camera and indicator?

Thanks in advance for the information. It will be very helpful to us non-techies out here.

36 posted on 06/20/2013 7:20:07 AM PDT by Jess Kitting
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To: Future Snake Eater

< I read my Kindle when I’m in the tub. >

Related to your comment (but not you personally), many people do other private, ‘intimate’ things while viewing porn on their computer, smart phone, etc. Other people have sordid affairs. And still others participate in various paraphilias with consenting adults, something that would mortify them if it landed on YouTube.

Now, imagine our illustrious NSA or a foreign state capturing the video, complete with sound effects. If you’re an ordinary citizen, no big deal, unless you plan on running for a political office one day.

Now suppose you’re a politician, judge, law enforcement officer in a high position, CEO of a large company, defense contractor, military general, potential political opponent, press reporter, blog owner with wide readership, etc. This entire national conversation will hopefully redefine the word “paranoid.”

You must either take out the batteries or use duct tape or other non-transparent tape over cameras and mics on all devices that are applicable.... TVs, phones, computers, cameras, handheld digital recorders, gaming equipment, etc. Don’t forget the karoeke (sp?) machine. ;-) I have no suggestions for baby monitors and security webcams; perhaps someone else does.

Someone remind me again how the NSA snooping and AP wiretap stories broke, again? Because I’ve suspected all along that a motive was to inform and intimidate. At the very least, all this talk about capabilies of eavesdropping, combined with rigorous fed prosecution of govt whistleblowers, has had a chilling effect and will affect what we know about our Dear Leader now and in the years to come.


37 posted on 06/20/2013 8:08:16 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Resolute Conservative

< In newer devices how do you tape over the camera embedded into the screen? If you don’t think they are there you are misguided. >

I see a market need for a one-way mirror device or film that fits over a TV or computer screen. Something that would confine the hacker in his own little “cyber-interrogation room.’ ;-)


38 posted on 06/20/2013 8:15:38 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: Jess Kitting

It depends on hardware. Some don’t have indicator lights. My wife’s, my son’s and my laptops have them.

The camera on my laptop is at the top center of the screen. The indicator light is about a half inch to the right. I think it is green. It is a green LED.


39 posted on 06/20/2013 11:36:32 AM PDT by FreeAtlanta (sue the DNC for the IRS abuse! Can RICO laws be used against the DNC?)
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To: Responsibility2nd

NSA? Is that you?!


40 posted on 06/20/2013 11:55:53 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: FreeAtlanta

One of mine has an indicator light. Two others do not.


41 posted on 06/20/2013 6:18:22 PM PDT by bytesmith
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