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Why a Third Party Help Republicans
Vanity | July 2, 2013 | EqAndyBuzz

Posted on 07/02/2013 8:17:08 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz

If Conservatives break away from the Republican party, the big winner are Republicans.


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My liberal next door neighbor and I, over a glass of scotch were discussing politics, as we usually do when we get together. Discussing gun control, the sequester and gay marriage, he asked me my thoughts on the repercussions to Republicans if Sarah Palin and the Conservatives form a third party.

Everything I have heard about a third party is that if Conservatives form a third party, Republicans will never win another election. I asked my inebriated neighbor if he ever heard that before and he said that this is what Democrats hope for, him included.

His wife comes into the room, pours herself a scotch and joins in. "We hate Sarah Palin and only wish that she forms another party. This is the perfect opportunity for the Republicans to destroy themselves." I was about to tell my neighbor that his wife is ugly and dresses funny, but reason got the better of me, so I began. My next door neighbor Bill owns 25 guns, not including his hunting rifles which he says has nothing to do with the second amendment. He is a proud member of the NRA. Bill believes that Obama's 100 million dollar trip is a waste of taxpayer money and that the money he spent could have kept kids coming to Washington to see the Capitol and other buildings closed by the sequester. Bill also thinks that we are too much in debt and we have to reduce the deficit by cutting spending. Bill doesn't care about gay marriage or abortion. He said he understands why these right wing whackos (take a bow EQ) are against it. But he also says it is between that person and God and when they get to the pearly gates they will have to answer for that. And he likes Hillary and thought she should have beaten Obama, who he voted for...twice. Finally, Bill owns a hybrid.

My final question to Bill was, "If the Republican Party didn't have a "Right Wing" who would you vote for?" He says he would vote Republican and the only reason he votes Democrat is because the Republicans are too far to the right.

I thought about this for a while. How many Bill’s are out there? How many people consider themselves Democrats because Republicans are too far to the right? How many people are single issue voters who vote Democrat when they really are Republican?

So I came up with this thought. There are three groups of voters. There are Conservatives and everyone else to the left of them liberals, except the Socialists and Marxists who make up the base of the Democrat party. In the middle you have the moderates. These are a combination of Democrats and Republicans who will vote for the lesser of the two evils. Then why would they vote Democrat?

Look at the Republican primaries. What is happening? Well, the media, along with the Democrat and Republican strategists via whatever works gets rid of the most Conservative candidates. These are the candidates who given the opportunity to get into the general win 49 states. They finally get a Romney, a McCain, a Dole who Democrats with the help of the MSM, label as too radical and out of touch with the mainstream. Because of that, the moderates from both parties choose the Democrat. (My friend Bill)

Then the question becomes, if the Conservatives break away, how does this affect the Republicans in a negative light? Then the thought about Amnesty hit me. If Conservatives break away, the moderates from both parties now get to see what the left is really doing to America and what things like Amnesty, Obamacare and Climate Change really mean. They get to see the mess because the left will no longer have a straw man for the media hounds to attack.

What happens is the whole dynamic of the electorate will change. Instead of everyone moving to the left, they will now move to the right, isolating the far left, who do not have enough votes in the base to win elections. Republicans who consider themselves Conservative will move to the right. Moderates from both parties will vote Republican as it will still be a liberal party. This leaves 10-15% of the Socialists, Marxists, labor unions and the radical organizations to scramble for a footing.

With this I humbly submit that Ms. Palin along with the best and brightest minds of Conservatives everywhere create that Freedom Party. Let the liberals come under the Republican tent. Force the leftist loons to expose themselves. And if the Republicans need us, they know where we are. They just have to be prepared to give us a platform where our ideas will lead this country back to prominence.

1 posted on 07/02/2013 8:17:08 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I think he claims to vote democrat because his wife is a freak in bed. That’s also why he tolerates her rude behavior. A real lady would enter the room and wait for a real man to offer her a drink. If no man offers her a drink then there are no real men in the room.


2 posted on 07/02/2013 8:21:13 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

2 words.

Ross. Perrot.


3 posted on 07/02/2013 8:22:32 PM PDT by Rodamala
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To: EQAndyBuzz

It sure helped the GOP in 1992 and 1996. Bubba won those with 43% and 49% of the vote.


4 posted on 07/02/2013 8:22:58 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

Who cares if it helps or hurts Republicans?


5 posted on 07/02/2013 8:28:28 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
He says he would vote Republican and the only reason he votes Democrat is because the Republicans are too far to the right.

If he didn't vote for Romney, your neighbor is BS!

6 posted on 07/02/2013 8:29:22 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Yes, I will continue to vote for the RINO du jour, better than the alternative I guess. But we will continue to see the same results, in 2014...2016...2018.....


7 posted on 07/02/2013 8:30:22 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Rodamala

You beat me to it. The poster must be a Bill Clinton supporter.


8 posted on 07/02/2013 8:33:23 PM PDT by entropy12 (Even tho Obama is now a lame duck, with 2014 House majority, he will be a dangerously socialist!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz
Errr, what? Too many words. Lol

I, for one, am getting tired of getting betrayed by the Republicans. I'm getting to the point where I no longer wish to have an affiliation with the traitor party. At this point, there is little difference between the parties. Burn this bitch to the ground and start up another party.

If there a no longer enough people left in this country that believe in freedom and personal responsibility, than so be it.

9 posted on 07/02/2013 8:35:16 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Proud Teabagging Barbarian Terrorist Hobbit Crazy Cracker Son-of-a-Bitch!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

of course, they then get to be democrats.


10 posted on 07/02/2013 8:37:37 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rodamala

You saved me from having to read past your comment.

FU Ross Perot, and FU Judge that unsealed Jack Ryan’s divorce records for zero.


11 posted on 07/02/2013 8:38:12 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: USNBandit

No...1992 and 1996 was a reflection of the GOPE weaknesses. H.W. Bush lost the Reagan Coalition by abandoning the base that 4 years before gave him an landslide victory. Same with Dole in 1996, Clinton won with less than 25% of eligible voters....many didn’t care for Bill and many didn’t care for Dole, so they sat out of the election. People want to just as much vote FOR someone as much as vote against someone.


12 posted on 07/02/2013 8:39:02 PM PDT by Bigtigermike
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To: entropy12

NO, Andy is not, he’s a disgusted Texan like a lot of us.

Just primary ALL the RINO MFs and make the gop-e go trying to start IT’S own third party.


13 posted on 07/02/2013 8:41:48 PM PDT by txhurl (RNC 'voter suppression': attempting to limit each voter to ONE vote!)
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To: txhurl

I like your attitude. THAT’S how we get it done.


14 posted on 07/02/2013 8:45:12 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

This is a pipe dream to believe that the moderate democrats will vote Republican if the Republicans are more moderate.

This is the exact message the GOP-e and RINOs have been telegraphing all along and if fails every time.

If it works so damn well when our idiots move toward the center why aren’t they bringing democrats over to vote for them? Ain’t gonna happen. two parties or three. it will not occur.

Somebody here is trying to be smarter than they actually are. Not impressed.


15 posted on 07/02/2013 8:45:44 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

The author mentions Amnesty. What happens when the voters see that it is the GOP AND Democrats that are betraying them? The Right, which the last time I saw figures makes up 1/2 - 2/3 of GOP voters, is not going to be replaced by enough squishy Dims/Moderates to give them a victory. When presented by a liberal Democrat(Obama) and a liberal Republican(Romney, McCain), they vote for the real thing every time.


16 posted on 07/02/2013 8:47:34 PM PDT by Ingtar (Everyone complains about the weather, but only Liberals try to legislate it.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

And before someone says “because conservatives won’t be republicans so they won’t be afraid to vote republican”,

what the hell lately have conservatives won via the national RNC? Bullsquat. Boner purged a bunch from power. That’s what we won lately. We got duped by Rubio pretending to be conservative when he’s a freaking liberal hack. That’s what we won. We aren’t setting agendas for anything. The GOP-e is in total reaction mode, not taking the offense on absolutely anything. That’s what we won lately.

Bullsquat.

There is no difference in or out of the party. We have zero influence there. NOthing conservatives want is getting done. They could vote Republican the last two years without worrying the GOP would drag them further right.


17 posted on 07/02/2013 8:49:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

You need a better class of friends.


18 posted on 07/02/2013 8:54:09 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Rodamala

perot wasn’t a solid Conservative


19 posted on 07/02/2013 8:58:19 PM PDT by stickywillie (how come there are no father-in-law jokes?)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Boehner is a BIG problem. He MUST GO NOW. Don’t wait for him to enable a vote for Obama’s Amnesty.

F&F, AP, IRS, NSA, Bengahzi, and Boehner’s #1 priority: Obama’s Amnesty. The man is jackass traitor to his party and a disloyal American. DUMP HIM NOW. DON’T WAIT. THE DAMAGE CAN NEVER BE UNDONE.

DUMP BOEHNER!


20 posted on 07/02/2013 9:00:06 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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