Posted on 07/08/2013 7:55:25 AM PDT by BenLurkin
When seconds can mean the difference between life and death in escaping an aircraft accident, it was startling to see so many photographs from the crash of Asiana Flight 214 at San Francisco International Airport of people carrying out bags, including roll aboards that must have come out of the overhead luggage bins. At least one man interviewed in the New York Times indicated that he grabbed his bags and then his child. In that order. All I can say is that it was very fortunate that the fire was slow to spread.
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I don’t think you understand the scenario......if the stuff had fallen out of the overheads and onto the ailse, then grabbing a bag would SPEED UP the exit, and you wouldn’t even have time to get “your beans n taters” on.....besides....it’s absurd to sit here in the calm light of day, sitting at a laptop, in 70 degree comfort, and pretend like you know WTF you would do. YOU DON”T.
I know I'd run you over and leave a spot on the carpet where you once stood.
I hope you are never in a crash. The odds are you won't be. If you are, don't grab your bag.
Let me type reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel slowly so you can understaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand. The crap was probably in the passengers way -— it probably SPED UP the process to pick up some of it. THERE WAS NO WAY TO RUN. And chances are, no way you could do anything to me......
but if you want to play kvetch ass-hat, you win
When I took my oldest river-rafting about twenty years ago, I took us off a raft that was filling up with Korean tourists and moved to an all-American raft, and told him why. They were incredibly badly behaved and ignored the raft guide. Theirs was the only raft which wrapped on a rock, filled and dumped them in the fast cold river. The males ignored the females and tried to save themselves first. This is normal.
My son and I were real careful not to let them grab us while fishing them out - we stuck oars out for them to grab and them let them pull themselves over the side of our raft rather than helping them. Other people in our raft who were less cautious were pulled into the river trying to help them, until our guide said to let her do all the rescuing. The other raft guides did the same.
"Sorry,Grandmother of hoosierham...I know that the flood waters are up to your nose but we have no room in the boat.You see,we have Fido,Fluffy,Killer,Lady and four parakeet cages onboard.There may be room on the next rescue boat that comes along"
...if you are ever in a crash, you'll be looking for me.
Your post is an eye-opener. Never would have thought that would be the case.
Emergency service personnel of any nationality are heroic. I've seen videos of Indian (Hindi) street police with old revolvers and bolt-action rifles taking on Pakistani terrorists armed with modern automatic weapons, and somehow keeping the latter tied up and even pinned down for 10-15 minute periods.
Do not assume that foreigners behave like Americans during emergencies. For that matter, media depictions of American disaster behavior are generally doomie leftist fantasies. The group emergency behavior of each foreign ethnicity and nationality should be viewed separately.
A women brought several live chickens on the plane from Athens to Iraklion, Greece I was on in 1991.
I think the line is:
“Igor, get the bags.”
“Alright! You take the blonde, and I’ll take the one in the turban!”
The other thing about checked baggage is the damn TSA agents security checking it or the baggage handlers are prone to stealing anything valuable they find. This has been documented numerous times. I've had TSA agents steal things from me, including my very first smart phone, only 24 hours after buying it (I purchased it FOR the trip).
These people need to go to jail for a long time; just not fired. Imagine if a dusky skinned fellow asked them to PLACE something in a bag... for say, $100,000? I'm sure any real American would do no such thing, but a TSA agent who steals from the public? Well, he's already a criminal....
Ah. Just grabbed whatever bag is at their feet and go.
So once they got to the terminal they got together and returned each bag to its rightful owner.
That had to be it. Sorting them out while still on the plane would be insane.
They wouldn’t be “live” cats, they would be the First Class Meal. The problem is picking the right Wine.
Usually white wine with Tabbies, Persians, and fluffy kittens, and red or mixes with all else. Of course, a national champion breed gets a Scotch.
Agreed!
I think it was a long time before they even got to the terminal.
SFO is a huge place, and where that plane smacked the shore wall is over a mile from the terminal.
We had a rough landing going into Seattle once, and all of the baggage was hitting people in the head and shoulder area, and then to the floor. We were told to either grab our own, or if it was someone else’s put it on a seat, so that the aisle was passable.
What wasn’t picked up by passengers went to the carosels anyway. But some passengers were injured, and were not going to be carrying any luggage.
Good advice. I do that now myself.
I flew to San Francisco on a Business trip on 9/11/2002.
There were only Thirteen Passengers on the Plane and I checked my Baggage. Only took my Laptop as a Carryon.
I flew United (cough, cough)and when I arrived I found out they sent by Luggage to Denver. Lucky for me, the Bag got to me before Noon the next day.
Many of the passengers were flying for the first time. They thought this was normal. They thought that this was the way airplanes usually land.
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