Posted on 07/19/2013 7:38:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
My experience has been that it is never worthwhile to upgrade hardware to a new OS unless the hardware is less than a year old and the current OS won’t support a needed app.
I upgraded my laptop from 7 to 8 because I needed to make sure my apps would run on 8. For the most part it’s great, but they shouldn’t make you jump through hoops to boot to the desktop. The Metro interface is fine for tablets but pointless if you’re using a mouse.
My XP notebook from 2004 is still a good machine. My new tablet running win8 is a neat machine but the OS was a bear to learn. I am ok with win8 on a tablet, would not have it on a desktop.
Window 8’s Fault!
Win8 - The new Bush.
I have owned a MacBook for a couple of years now. I also have an iPhone and a couple of iPads. Very good machines for certain applications. The Apple products will in NO WAY replace my day to day work on Windows PC's. I have 2 with Win 7 and one with Win 8. I've heard comments like yours for years and I just don't get it.
Certainly that is one aspect of the issue. Professional users all prefer reliability over novel, and perhaps limited value UI features - particularly where the UI features don't generate any productivity or usability gains for them.
I'm not sure anything near provable correctness is necessary in the market. Just not having an endless series of updates to deal with and finding endless "annoyances" that were missed by the developers of the new Windows version would be a good first step.
Even with the drop today we have a 10% increase from May's price.
Twice this year I’ve had the opportunity to go to a “mall” (a rare experience for me).
Both times the Apple store looked like they were giving away free beer and the Microsoft kiosk selling the Surface tablet looked like a guy stranded on a deserted island.
Microsoft is simply a dinosaur. A crappy company with crappy products people don’t like. I use a PC running Windows 7 at work. It sucks. Any one I’ve every been forced to use has sucked. I say bye.
Not necessary, no. However it'd be a great point on marketing and security. You couldn't say this is immune from viruses
because the proper execution of a program has nothing to do with whether or not it has malicious intent, but it would be the closest you can get to it.
Just not having an endless series of updates to deal with and finding endless "annoyances" that were missed by the developers of the new Windows version would be a good first step.
It would do that. Any updates on a validated system should be things like new modules (features), and if you have the investment into having such a secure/correct system, that's going to rub off onto the other portions of the company (i.e. user software).
A first level goal for a future version of Windows might be an operating system that is nearly impossible to attack by the methods used by currently known worms and viruses.
Guess what having a provably correct system does? It makes the OS impossible to subvert with most methods that are used: buffer overflow, pointer redirection, incorrect termination, etc. IOW, it completely fulfills your first goal. Read II.C in this paper and you'll see how correctness-proof does address a lot of these problems.
Desktop users generally do not want to work using a touch screen. Bad idea that should have never even made it beyond some Nerd telling his boss hey what about this idea. It's great for portable devices but with a desktop you're there to sit back in chair with keyboard in reach and not stretching out to touch the screen. Most desktop users for private use have larger screens so they can lean back somewhat and still use the computer.
MS reminds me of the Walmart attitude. It doesn't matter to them what you want to buy or what your needs are. They'll decide what you need and that's all they'll sell you.
A new XP/SE would sell and would pay for it's support. It might even restore some lost trust. I am not buying W8. I have two desktops and a laptop. All three are XP. I'd be willing to sink $125 for two machines into a XP/SE upgrade to keep the reliability, stability, and simplicity, of XP. I imagine the corporate would would a lot more so.
But we recently changed out the antiquated hardware in our office, all from ~10 year old XP machines to new Win7 machines. Now, in the business there is nothing for which we really need Win7 (in theory), but some of the task switching enhancements in the new product really do save me some time. I was the first in the office to get a new Win7 desktop machine a few months ago and I realized the advantages right away - but a few days in my new PC blew up and I had to go back for a while, and I didn't like it.
I don't know about Win8, I have never seen it in action but I really do like Win7.
Just at work though. In my leisure time it is Linux all the way.
I got to spend about 15 minutes on a W7 machine a few days ago. I could go with it in a pinch and that may be my next move to avoid W-8. Really the move to 7 for me would depend on update size. Like a good number of desktop users I’m out in the rural area where the only connection is via dial up.
Cable stops about a third a mile away. Company has no intention of expanding expecially up onto side roads where I am. Trees and terrain limit my cellular service most months. I can sometimes get service enough to text. It’s hit and miss. I’m on the northern side of a high ridge so Hughesnet is likely not possible either.
reality is MS works for business and continuity.
exotic units like linux and macs are nice toys for storefronts but it is just not the real business world. sad but true.
google HAD a chance with their chromebook but it was so soundly criticised and badly made that it was doa for anyone except the super frugal. (for those in rio linda see “cheep”)
One thing that people tend to forget.
Stock prices are all about two words - EARNINGS GROWTH.
Said another way they are not about just EARNINGS.
So when a business goes from one that is GROWING to one that is MATURE the stock price is inevitably going to take a dive.
Yes MSFT stock price is going down. That is an observable fact.
No MSFT and Windoze are not “going away”. That is as much a matter of common sense as anything else.
What this says is that their business has “matured” meaning they’ll keep cranking out copies of windoze, office, exchange and what have you but if you’re looking for 10, 15, 20, 50 % year over year earnings growth you’d be better off looking elsewhere.
So basically a falling stock price does not imply something is going the way of the dodo bird. It usually means that the earnings GROWTH story is likely not going to be what it was.
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