Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Gov't Won't Default As Long As The Interest Payment On The Federal Debt Outstanding Is Made
7/29/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 07/29/2013 6:59:43 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

As long as the interest payment - around $475 billion dollars over 12 months - of the federal debt outstanding (around $17 trillion dollars) is made, then a default can be averted; Hence, no need for a shutdown if the current revenues are allocated to make the interest payment(s) first.

After that, current revenues would then cover Social Security payments, Medicare, Medicaid, SNAP benefits, unemployment benefits, and the rest would cover around half of the $580 billion dollars currently being called for, for military spending. And thus, we would need to borrow absolutely no more than $400 billion - and that amount would give the United States some wiggle room. There is no need to borrow another trillion dollars, much less $800-900 billion dollars.

Would ObamaCare be funded? No, but all of the aforementioned would be covered - and a gov't shutdown would be averted. Were a shutdown to occur, it would be Obama's fault, as he himself has said that Big Business will be exempt from Obamacare, but the little guy won't. Hardly fair to average Americans.

If we keep heading the way we are, in a few years the interest payment WILL be a trillion dollars.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: 113th; congress; democrats; elections; lew; obama; taxes; teaparty

1 posted on 07/29/2013 6:59:44 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

What say you?


2 posted on 07/29/2013 7:00:02 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

If the gummint would only spend its money like a drunken sailor (i.e. until the pockets are empty), we would be OK.


3 posted on 07/29/2013 7:05:26 AM PDT by tgusa (gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger .......)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist
If we keep heading the way we are, in a few years the interest payment WILL be a trillion dollars.

If interest rates stay at 0%. If it goes up to say 4%, we're in deep doo. The trigger will be when the dollar loses reserve status. The 2008 crisis will look like a spring rain compared to the shit storm headed our way.

4 posted on 07/29/2013 7:09:55 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

You mean I can get by just paying the interest on my mortgage and the won’t foreclose. At my age I can do that till I die then who cares.


5 posted on 07/29/2013 7:11:37 AM PDT by DeWalt
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: IamConservative

—— If interest rates stay at 0%. If it goes up to say 4%, we’re in deep doo. The trigger will be when the dollar loses reserve status. The 2008 crisis will look like a spring rain compared to the shit storm headed our way. ——

So what happens then? Is the federal debt written off? Or just a portion?


6 posted on 07/29/2013 7:13:24 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: St_Thomas_Aquinas
So what happens then? Is the federal debt written off? Or just a portion?

If the dollar loses reserve status, I think we will see significant devaluation of the dollar. (25%??) All of non-value based parts of the economy that are fueled by debt creation and stimulus spending will grind to a halt. Our economy could shrink by half. Eventually, I think we default on the debt because we won't be able to service it. Whether that results in blood shed depends on who is left holding the debt when it happens.

7 posted on 07/29/2013 7:27:54 AM PDT by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Our society is like a woman in labor. One may wish to avoid the painful delivery, but that is not an option. The collapse and the default are coming.

And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


8 posted on 07/29/2013 7:32:58 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: DeWalt

Just get a reverse mortgage, that way when you die the Bank can foreclose and your kids don’t have to pay any inheritance tax.

Cause you blew it all...


9 posted on 07/29/2013 8:30:34 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The key to fixing the budget is to put Americans back to work.

And we can do that by raising tariffs on imports, that will drive industry back to the U.S.. It will also give the government a source of revenues until American industry is back on it’s feet.

The longer we wait the harder it will be to turn the ship.


10 posted on 07/29/2013 8:37:35 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The key to fixing the budget is to put Americans back to work.

And we can do that by raising tariffs on imports, that will drive industry back to the U.S.. It will also give the government a source of revenues until American industry is back on it’s feet.

The longer we wait the harder it will be to turn the ship.


11 posted on 07/29/2013 8:37:36 AM PDT by DannyTN
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Um, isn’t it Law already that certain things MUST be paid first (aka deficit or the like)?

Course, if he didn’t have the Fed creating funny $$, Congress may be bound to its rightful size.

Lastly, from my last look...a 1913 $1 is ‘worth’ ~$25 today. Talk about deflation built-in!


12 posted on 07/29/2013 10:05:48 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson