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.32 ACP FMJ versus .32 ACP JHP

Posted on 07/31/2013 12:45:30 PM PDT by 1rudeboy

So I know a guy who knows a guy who owns a Walther PPK. He's asking whether to load FMJ or JHP, purely for self-defense. It's not his primary weapon . . . he just wants to know what to keep in the magazines.


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To: 1rudeboy
If they work, no question hollow point is a better round for defense, assuming it feeds well. >380 have issues with that.

Of concern is, will the little .380 HP even expand at the meager velocity it gets up to? More than a few 9mm rounds do not reliably expand apparently, and they are driven a lot faster.

21 posted on 07/31/2013 1:03:36 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: Tenacious 1

Yes, the Rush thread, from a few months ago. That’s the 2004 x-ray from a past back injury. Dr freaked-out when he saw the bullet, wanted to call PD and get me to hospital. It was a 1974 robbery/shooting.


22 posted on 07/31/2013 1:03:41 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: 1rudeboy
Conventional advice is to go for expansion, but I personally don't trust that the .32 Auto has enough energy to expand. It's no magnum... it's not even comparable to a .38 Special.

Therefore I say load for penetration, as much as you can get. I carry Fiocchi ball in mine. If you're going to poke holes in the bad guy, poke them as deeply as possible and out the other side if you can.

23 posted on 07/31/2013 1:04:46 PM PDT by Oberon (Big Brutha Be Watchin'.)
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To: carriage_hill

OUCH


24 posted on 07/31/2013 1:05:11 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: 1rudeboy

.32 ACP seems like a bit of overkill for self defense. You might want to consider switching to .25 ACP, or even .22 LR to avoid the recoil.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 1:05:59 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (I hear wet grass.)
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To: 1rudeboy

bookmark


26 posted on 07/31/2013 1:06:53 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ("Happy, happy,happy." Phil Robertson)
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To: Tenacious 1

Walking out of a restaurant in West Palm Bch, with my finance, in 1974, and being robbed/shot in the parking lot. I was facing shooter and when I saw flash, turned sideways and it hit me in left hip.

Hospital trauma ctr doc said that saved my life, as small cal bullets tumble inside and would have ripped my guts to shreds, and I’d have bled-out in the pkg lot.

They didn’t have arthroscopic surgery back in 1974, and decided to leave it in, since it missed all organs/bones/nerves/arteries/veins. Wound sealed itself; didn’t even bleed. Just a big red lump, half-size of a grapefruit, with a black dot in center.

Still carry it, with no problems.


27 posted on 07/31/2013 1:09:15 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: 1rudeboy

Only time I’d consider FMJ over JHP in a caliber that small is if it’s wintertime and you expect the shootee to be wearing heavy clothing. Otherwise, go with hollows - but practice with them first to avoid failures to feed and the like.


28 posted on 07/31/2013 1:09:51 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: 1rudeboy

JHP with a the polymer tips. Critical Defense is the hot brand to get for short barrels and Critical Duty for 4+ inch barrels.

The polymer tip lets it pass thru mild resistance before expansion. That is especially useful for smaller rounds going through heavy fabric like coats.


29 posted on 07/31/2013 1:10:34 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: 1rudeboy

I wonder if Glaser wouldn’t be good.


30 posted on 07/31/2013 1:12:19 PM PDT by Rio
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Help me out here, I can’t look it up right now: is the Hornady Critical Defense the same as the Hornady XTP? I can’t remember.


31 posted on 07/31/2013 1:13:05 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: American in Israel; VeniVidiVici

Actually, it didn’t even hurt until hours later, since EMTs missed it completely when examining me. Just ached. Didn’t bleed; wound sealed itself, but left a red half-grapefruit-size mound with black dot in center (hematoma). I did have quite a few drinks before and afterward...


32 posted on 07/31/2013 1:13:12 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: Jeff Chandler

.22 LR? or a .25 ACP is pretty light weight stuff.

It may not be fun to shoot but it works much better.

For fun get a 6” revolver and shoot .38.


33 posted on 07/31/2013 1:13:43 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Jeff Chandler
.32 ACP seems like a bit of overkill for self defense. You might want to consider switching to .25 ACP, or even .22 LR to avoid the recoil.

You forgot the sarcasm tag....

Though I think that more people are killed with .22LR than any other caliber.

34 posted on 07/31/2013 1:14:04 PM PDT by Politically Correct (A member of the rabble in good standing)
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To: carriage_hill

I guess you can count your blessings that the perp had a .32 instead of one of the bigger calibers. Glad your ok now.


35 posted on 07/31/2013 1:14:41 PM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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36 posted on 07/31/2013 1:15:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: 1rudeboy

For defense a .38 5 shot hammerless snubby is perfect. Practically zero maintenance. It’s not a fun gun to shoot on weekends.

For that get a Glock or a 6” .357 and shoot .38’s for practice. I have all of the above and the snubby is just what it is concealable.


37 posted on 07/31/2013 1:17:37 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: 1rudeboy

Critical Defense is for 1” - 2” barrels. Critical Duty is for Compact and bigger.


38 posted on 07/31/2013 1:19:01 PM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Rio

I have some 230gr Glaser Pow-R-Ball Ammo for both my Kimber 1911 .45cal ACPs. Kimbers eat any ammo, and Cor-Bon 230gr HPs do just fine.

http://www.corbon.com/pow-rball/general/pow-r-ball


39 posted on 07/31/2013 1:19:37 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: American in Israel

Saturday Night Special; glad it was a small cal, and I spun sideways to take it in the hip instead of in the gut.


40 posted on 07/31/2013 1:21:56 PM PDT by Carriage Hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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