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WINDOWS 8
ME | August 05, 2013 | ME

Posted on 08/05/2013 7:02:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER

Just a heads up, if you're stuck with Windows 8 there is a free program called "CLASSIC SHELL" which gives you a start button. You can even choose to simulate XP.

I'm stuck with this rig, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna put up with it!


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: 7; computer; win8; windows8

1 posted on 08/05/2013 7:02:51 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

No one is truly “stuck” with an OS they don’t like. One can always change the OS.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 7:06:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I use Classic Shell...and a few other tweaks...on my Win7 desktop that I am forced to use by my company. I miss XP. But I have pretty much all of that Aero crap hacked out.


3 posted on 08/05/2013 7:09:35 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You can download the free Windows 8.1 update which gives you the option of switching from Metro to the Classic GUI.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 7:11:01 AM PDT by gallandro1
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To: gallandro1

Windows 8.1 never loaded for me.


5 posted on 08/05/2013 7:13:56 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: gallandro1

Is there any way to get the windows chess game back for win 8??


6 posted on 08/05/2013 7:15:13 AM PDT by varmintman
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

You missed an installation step. After WinXP, you were supposed to upgrade to OS X.


7 posted on 08/05/2013 7:16:58 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

But if you DON’T want windows 8 you can PURCHASE the ‘upgrade’ that will allow you to remove it

Isn’t that great?


8 posted on 08/05/2013 7:18:14 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, and Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: ctdonath2

Major ping-a-ling-a-ding goodness. As I have since 1986. Windows XP and Windows 7 still takes thirty minutes to crash when it decides to, it’s just that the BSOD is hiding behind the desktop.


9 posted on 08/05/2013 7:24:57 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay metal. For the Horde \m/("_")\m/ - via iPhone from Tokyo.g)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

While we’re on the subject...I’ve noticed that in Windows 8, I have to minimize an app or go elsewhere, in order to close it. There seems to be no way to close things with just one click on the little x because it isn’t there. Example, the music app with the silly headphones emblem. Go in there and there’s no quick way out. I have to go to the desktop, put the browser in the top left corner, see the thumbnail of the music app, right click, then select “Close.”
Am I overlooking something obvious?


10 posted on 08/05/2013 7:25:14 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: ShadowAce
My wife bought a lap top with Windows 8 and she is indeed, stuck. The stuff that is supposed to work like a touch screen is problematic, the commands don't control searching or scrolling effectively and the program isn't compatible with our email server that we have through our bundled cable service. We have had three different computer service techs try to fix it an they all gave up.

I would strongly urge anyone looking at a new computer to take a serious look at Mac as my son tried to get us to do.

11 posted on 08/05/2013 7:25:24 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: gallandro1

Metro — appropriately named.


12 posted on 08/05/2013 7:25:55 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: varmintman

More importantly - does Win8 still have solitaire?


13 posted on 08/05/2013 7:27:09 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
I haven't had the pleasure yet but here's a recent review of Windows 8.1

Microsoft takes a mulligan with Windows 8.1.

And yes the Start button is back Jack.

14 posted on 08/05/2013 7:28:45 AM PDT by McGruff (I need a new party.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

And what is an Apple update doing in my task scheduler on Windows 8? (It’s also on my Windows 7 laptop which has slowed to glacier level movement.)


15 posted on 08/05/2013 7:29:14 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
We have Vista and Windows7, and now Windows8 on my daughter's new laptop. She loves it, and I love it, especially for the laptop. For our purposes, the user experience is great. She's a college kid, with the obvious college needs. I use it for light duty, when she's not around 8-)

I do heavy-duty graphics on my old Vista computer, and I've never had any trouble with it. Can't wait to upgrade, though. Still, for a four-year-old computer, it's doing pretty well.

16 posted on 08/05/2013 7:36:52 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

When I recently rebuilt my desktop computer, I traded my almost decade old copy of Windows XP for Windows 7. Why, when Windows 7 is such a worthy successor to the venerable Windows XP, did Microsoft have to get carried away again with quickly bringing out the strange Windows 8? Windows 8 reminds me of the flop Windows Vista with all the cute memory hungry graphic interface. I have been a long time Windows user and even have for a time used a Mac, but I find Windows 8 almost incomprehensible. It took me more than an hour to figure out how to install a free anti-virus program on my brother-in-law’s Windows 8 laptop.


17 posted on 08/05/2013 7:39:03 AM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: smokingfrog

There are more different solitaire games in Windows 8 than you’d find in Hades. The Start thing offers Games, and All Casual Games, All Enthusiast Games, All Family Games, All Kids Games, All MMO Games, More Games, and more still. I’ve never been to any of them except plain solitaire, and the plainest solitaire isn’t near as plain as it could be.


18 posted on 08/05/2013 7:40:24 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: Baynative
I bought my last laptop, and stuck in a DVD with s different OS before even powering it on. I run something other than what came on the laptop.

You can always change the OS.

19 posted on 08/05/2013 7:41:32 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce
You can always should be able to change the OS. Then trouble we have found with Windows 8 is that it is like a plague with viruses all though the computer.. While installing a new OS may be possible, UN installing W-8 is all but impossible and multiple problems have occurred for us in trying to navigate around it. We are users, not programmers or mechanics, that makes matters worse and frustrating for us.
20 posted on 08/05/2013 7:49:18 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: ShadowAce

“No one is truly “stuck” with an OS they don’t like. One can always change the OS.”


Absolutely untrue. Many applications fail due to OS changes or even version changes within the OS. Even more are unsupported by competing OSs.

Even applications which do NOT use Windows APIs can and do fail after “upgrades”. And no these are not applications which are using some undocumented or unsupported feature.

Win 8 may have some good stuff under the hood but from the outside for a power user it sucks beyond belief.

One thing that is coming to light right now is MS has decided not to fully support MIDI under Win 8 which, albeit, will never have as many users as desktops but is used by millions of people in all aspects of music who have not YET been forced into the Apple world.


21 posted on 08/05/2013 7:49:21 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I use Classic Shell to clear up some of the file manager problems in Win7.

File manager has been glitchy since VISTA. Per some help forums, MS knows it is glitchy but still hasn’t bothered to fix it. Too bad we can’t get an XP version — it worked.

==

Win 8.1 is supposed to be out soon (may already be out) and it is supposed to allow the user the option of choosing a more-Win7-like interface.


22 posted on 08/05/2013 7:51:00 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Brain trust: I offered to buy my wife an HP laptop 320 Gb hard drive 4 Gb memory Windows 8, for under $300 after her old one crashed.
Of course she prefers a Dell ‘touch’ laptop w/ 500 Gb HD 4 Gb memory and Windows 8 for almost $500.
This is all offered by Walmart.
I thought all Windows 8 were ‘touch screen’. I bought an HP Pavilion desk computer for myself not too long ago with Windows 7 because I didn’t want to hit some new DOS jackpot.
Also, she has multiple sclerosis and some hand-eye coordination problems.
You don’t have to put your answers/advice in the form of a question. Thanks for any wisdom. td


23 posted on 08/05/2013 7:52:46 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: HomeAtLast

You could have an Apple update for iTunes, Safari or some other Apple application.


24 posted on 08/05/2013 8:01:14 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Implementing class warfare by having no class.)
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To: HomeAtLast

Grab the top edge of the music app and drag it off the bottom edge to close it.


25 posted on 08/05/2013 8:02:00 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: Baynative

fdisk/gparted/other partitioning tools will definitely remove all traces of any existing OS


26 posted on 08/05/2013 8:05:37 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Wurlitzer

Don’t lock yourself into any single application, and you’ll be free.


27 posted on 08/05/2013 8:07:40 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: tumblindice; All

Sorry, I forgot to pose the question: Which way would you go?
Daughter just called, advised her mother to stay away from the touch screen.


28 posted on 08/05/2013 8:15:19 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: ShadowAce

More trouble than you think with win 8.


29 posted on 08/05/2013 8:26:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Baynative

Mac , yuck Lisa Jackson works for them


30 posted on 08/05/2013 8:30:04 AM PDT by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: All

Weird that so many people don’t know how to format a hard drive and then install whatever operating system they want. It’s not that hard.


31 posted on 08/05/2013 8:44:05 AM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I got a deep discount on Sony Avio Ultrabook with 6G and 500 hard drive. Couldn’t fight against the price as they were closing out model last month - so much that I returned the HP stand-alone desktop and got money back in difference.

Problem was both contained Windows 8. The OS was truly a nightmare from perspective. I’ve had a desktop since mid 1980s and this is the worst crap Microsoft put out.

I was reaching the two week return deadline when I ran across Classic Shell four weeks ago in doing simple search for alternative. Looked at youtube video and was convinced it was worth the trouble to download.

When I boot completely in seconds, there is the XP like homepage yet I can skip over to right and pull out the looking glass and return to the apts and do all the trivial stuff that Windows 8 is trying to dumb us down. Hey - Microsoft! Some of us still want to more than watch videos or hear music.

I understand from some of the videos and comments that the pre-release 8 had programs working the beta version and able to work around to provide a Start button. Good ol’ Microsoft did their own workaround to eliminate the non-Windows software from working. Once released, Microsoft couldn’t retool to prevent programmers from finding the Classic Shell fix and providing a new-found liveable environment.

I now am in love with just about everything associated with Classic Shell. Don’t knock Windows 8 until you’ve tried the Shell fix and the Start button in lower left.


32 posted on 08/05/2013 8:55:33 AM PDT by snoopy 'n linus
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To: Baynative
You can always should be able to change the OS. Then trouble we have found with Windows 8 is that it is like a plague with viruses all though the computer.. While installing a new OS may be possible, UN installing W-8 is all but impossible and multiple problems have occurred for us in trying to navigate around it. We are users, not programmers or mechanics, that makes matters worse and frustrating for us.

Shut down your PC. Get a bootable install DVD of another OS. Put the DVD in the drive. Turn on the PC, keeping your eye out for the BIOS setup key - it's usually a function key. If you press that key during startup - before the hardware starts reading the disk your OS is on you go into the BIOS setup. In the BIOS setup screens you can change the boot order of your drives. Make sure your DVD is the first boot drive. Save and Exit the BIOS screens. The machine will boot from your DVD, which is the install disk for your new OS.
33 posted on 08/05/2013 9:00:17 AM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Ingtar

Thanks for the tip! A single click on an x would have been better but I guess Microsoft has overevolved. :)


34 posted on 08/05/2013 9:24:37 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: reg45

Aha, that’s it. There is some itunes thing in there. Thank you!


35 posted on 08/05/2013 9:33:38 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

I’ve been using Windows8 for almost a year. Don’t like it yet.
It took a lot of time to give it the initial “makeover” so that it looked more like what I was used to, but there are still shortcomings.
By the time I get used to it, they’ll be pushing Windows 9.


36 posted on 08/05/2013 9:38:15 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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To: HomeAtLast

It has to do with the touch screen aspects. I had to be shown the same thing, so I am just passing on the advice.


37 posted on 08/05/2013 9:42:29 AM PDT by Ingtar (The NSA - "We're the only part of government who actually listens to the people.")
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To: TomGuy
Too bad we can’t get an XP version — it worked.

eBay often has XP Pro for around $40.

I have four desktops and a laptop. I have XP on three desktops and the laptop (wiped out 7 on one desktop) with Win 7 only on one. Problem is, I have older peripherals (scanner, laser printer, etc.) that Win 7 didn't recognize, so I stayed with XP. Probably will for a long time as, for my needs, I don't see where Win 7, let alone 8 does anything for me, and probably a lot less. IMO, at some point, these OS hit a peak and from then on, it's all bells and whistles.

38 posted on 08/05/2013 9:44:57 AM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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To: Oatka

I stayed with XP as long as I could for home use. When my desktop died last year, I went with Win7. XP just could not handle the new web pages and Internet features.

I wish I could extract the XP file manager and use it in Win 7. I was able to do that with some other programs that either Win 7 did not have or the Win 7 version was pathetic.

I did lose a b/w laser printer which did not have Win7 drivers, but my color laser and scanner work with Win7. When I went from Win98 to XP, I lost several peripherals.

[I do have the old XP disks, which I bought.]


39 posted on 08/05/2013 9:57:19 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

“I use it for light duty, when she’s not around 8-)”

That’s probably why you like it.

Windows 8 is essentially bringing the tablet/smartphone os onto a PC. PC’s were designed to do “heavier-duty” computing applications. So your daughter’s Windows 8 Laptop probably does very well when you are browsing the net, doing email, texting... in short all the things that are often done on a touch-screen platform.


40 posted on 08/05/2013 9:59:03 AM PDT by Tallguy (Hunkered down in Pennsylvania)
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To: gallandro1

8.1 makes some tweaks but doesn’t restore the old GUI.


41 posted on 08/05/2013 10:00:15 AM PDT by mlo
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To: HomeAtLast

Go to top of the App -page, see the hand icon?
Drag it to the bottom, the app will close.

Easier.


42 posted on 08/05/2013 11:34:58 AM PDT by conserv8
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To: SWAMPSNIPER
You are a bit late: Windows 8 pro review (upgrade XP to Windows 8 with Classic Shell ) But thanks.
43 posted on 08/05/2013 11:46:00 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: MeganC

I remember people not knowing how to change the tape in a typewriter. The never learned because they never had to.


44 posted on 08/05/2013 11:47:14 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: ShadowAce

I have been using Linux Ubuntu since the old HDD crashed and burned. I have an opportunity to install Windows 7 Home Premium.

I can always put Linux Ubuntu on a USB and use when I feel like, I think. Does this sound like a good option?


45 posted on 08/05/2013 12:12:57 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL
On a personal level, I would never run Windows, so I cannot say yes. However, if that is what meets your needs, then I say go for it.

My personal solution would be to install Linux on the it, and run Windows as a VM.

46 posted on 08/05/2013 12:46:51 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

I never did like the VM thing, and I couldn’t get anything like that to work. And I doubt that Windows 7 would run off a USB like Linux Ubuntu does.


47 posted on 08/05/2013 12:58:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: HomeAtLast
MO Games

MO Fun!

48 posted on 08/05/2013 3:02:48 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( ==> sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ShadowAce

Even in these days of UEFI and signed bootloaders? I’ve not yet had to confront this but figure that one day I will have to. I think for now things can mostly be coerced to work but maybe not always?


49 posted on 08/05/2013 3:05:42 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: ShadowAce

I’m a little late to the party, but a week ago I was forced to buy a new laptop and, of course, it has windows 8. Toshiba also put their own desktop on as a tile so all the familiar things from windows 7 are available too. I’m actually starting to like it since multi-tasking has never been easier. I don’t think I would like it in a tile only environment, but this combination is working out very well for me.


50 posted on 09/03/2013 7:58:53 AM PDT by Abby4116
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