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Vanity - Kubrick and The Shining. Questions.
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Posted on 08/09/2013 6:56:54 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch

I've come across some youtube videos and some articles about how intricately made was The Shining, that it is filled with a hotel layout which doesn't make sense. And that there are clues within that supports the idea he filmed a fake moon landing. While I don't believe the lunar excursion was faked I'm convinced that Kubrick gave an awful lot of thought and effort in his movies. Are there any books or videos you might recommend about Kubrick?


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Thanks and thanks you.
1 posted on 08/09/2013 6:56:55 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch
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To: InvisibleChurch

I’ve never heard this one before, and studying Stanley Kubrick is one of my hobbies.


2 posted on 08/09/2013 6:59:06 PM PDT by Steely Tom (If the Constitution can be a living document, I guess a corporation can be a person.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Are you saying that he put a lot of thought and effort into creating a hotel layout that doesn’t make sense?


3 posted on 08/09/2013 6:59:48 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg

ping


4 posted on 08/09/2013 7:01:08 PM PDT by EveningStar ("What color is the sky in your world?" -- Frasier Crane)
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To: InvisibleChurch
2001...great film.Full Metal Jacket,ditto.The Shining? particularly unimpressive IMO.
5 posted on 08/09/2013 7:03:14 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (If Obama Had A City It Would Look Like Detroit)
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To: BenLurkin

I thought it was more like a really, really, really big bed & Breakfast


6 posted on 08/09/2013 7:05:29 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: InvisibleChurch

Watch Room 237.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/room_237_2012/


7 posted on 08/09/2013 7:06:04 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: InvisibleChurch

I wrote a cinema paper in college that 2001 was about all that ever was, all that is and all that will ever be. The teacher wasn’t crazy about my lead-up to that point, but ended up giving me an A+.


8 posted on 08/09/2013 7:06:50 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: BenLurkin
I was watching this last night

http://www.geekosystem.com/impossible-shining/

9 posted on 08/09/2013 7:08:37 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: Gay State Conservative

I watched the shinning once and was not impressed. Apparently someone thinks it is a supper film, it seems to be on Direct TV every other week.


10 posted on 08/09/2013 7:11:19 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Somebody did an edit of The Shining’s trailer to make it appear to be a romantic comedy. It is hilarious.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmkVWuP_sO0


11 posted on 08/09/2013 7:11:36 PM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: InvisibleChurch
Dr. Strangelove. Funniest. Movie. Ever.


Nineteen hundred and forty-six. 1946, Mandrake. How does that coincide with your post-war Commie conspiracy, huh? It's incredibly obvious, isn't it? A foreign substance is introduced into our precious bodily fluids without the knowledge of the individual. Certainly without any choice. That's the way your hard-core Commie works.

12 posted on 08/09/2013 7:15:36 PM PDT by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: InvisibleChurch

everything you are wondering about is covered in Room 237. Its very detailed about all the weird things Kubrick put in the movie. There is some mind blowing odd things in that film. Also it seems clear he in fact did film the fake moon landing, not to say we didn’t go to the moon but that the video was faked for whatever reason.

The documentary is a must watch for any Kubrick fan.


13 posted on 08/09/2013 7:18:34 PM PDT by BootsOfEscaping
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To: InvisibleChurch

14 posted on 08/09/2013 7:18:48 PM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: Squawk 8888
Dr. Strangelove. Funniest. Movie. Ever

Yep. Devilishly funny.

15 posted on 08/09/2013 7:21:28 PM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

It is like watching the TV serious MASH. I have watched so many times I have scene after scene of dialogue memorized, yet I can’t get the layout of the 4077 hospital to make any sense.


16 posted on 08/09/2013 7:22:18 PM PDT by doc1019 (Get our troops the hell out of the ME)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
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17 posted on 08/09/2013 7:23:07 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Okay, the Shining wasn’t my favorite, but I still like it. I am a big fan of Kubrick. A Clockwork Orange is my favorite movie of all time. Full Metal Jacket. Lolita. 2001. Dr. Stangelove. All unique and superlative. For the longest time I avoided Barry Lyndon because I was afraid I wouldn’t like it. I was blown away. Masterpiece.


18 posted on 08/09/2013 7:23:41 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Gay State Conservative

“The Shining” was based on a Stephen King novel. The book was fairly interesting, but the adoption of the finger movements by the kid when he was “shining” was totally absurd. Popeye’s wife played the woman lead and Nicholson was over the top. I consider this movie one of Kubrick’s worst. He also tried to do “The French Lieutenant’s Woman” and that was a bomb as well.

In general, Kubrick is a genius and had some really great flicks, but those two are total bombs, IMHO.


19 posted on 08/09/2013 7:25:51 PM PDT by Frank Sheed (The injustice of trendiness is nearly dualistic in its isomorphism.)
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To: massmike

This landscape views in this initial scene are very reminiscent of the landscapes at the end of Dr. Strangelove and 2001. Nothing genius about it, but it certainly seems to be a motif Kubrick liked.


20 posted on 08/09/2013 7:28:40 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: InvisibleChurch

I think that The Shining was an allegory about man’s inability to understand why you have to have more than one fork at a place setting.


21 posted on 08/09/2013 7:29:46 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: massmike

She really is astonishingly ugly. Odd that she was able to have a career in the movies.


22 posted on 08/09/2013 7:31:17 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

That is great!


23 posted on 08/09/2013 7:32:02 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: blueunicorn6

I guess you ould take an antihistamine for it. Thanks though.


24 posted on 08/09/2013 7:32:21 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Here ya go :

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/03/28/the-most-eccentric-conspiracy-theories-on-the-shining-in-room-237.html


25 posted on 08/09/2013 7:32:30 PM PDT by woofie
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To: Straight Vermonter
There's only one role she was absolutely,positively born to play:


26 posted on 08/09/2013 7:36:37 PM PDT by massmike (At the heart of every Paul-bot argument is the fear that someone will keep them from their weed!)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

The Simpson’s parody of The Shining is quite funny....in a Homeresque way.


27 posted on 08/09/2013 7:37:04 PM PDT by newfreep (Breitbart sent me...)
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To: InvisibleChurch

The book was scary. The movie wasn’t. Unless you consider a tedious move scary.

“Eyes Wide Shut” has to be seen to be believed. Proof positive that Kubrick is the most overrated director in cinema history.


28 posted on 08/09/2013 7:37:12 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: massmike

Shelley Duvall was adorable. She made gawky sexy.


29 posted on 08/09/2013 7:39:16 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Squawk 8888

BTTT


30 posted on 08/09/2013 7:39:42 PM PDT by bigheadfred (INFIDEL)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Born to play olive oyl


31 posted on 08/09/2013 7:46:09 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: InvisibleChurch

Kubrick reminds me of Kurosawa with a touch of Bergman thrown in for fun.


32 posted on 08/09/2013 7:47:14 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: InvisibleChurch

Kubrick did such a masterful job with 2001, I guess if anyone believes the lunar landings were faked, then he would be a prime suspect. I read The Shining when it was published and I loved it and was disappointed with the movie, especially when the Scatman Cruthers character is killed by Jack Nicholson. Unnecessary, ant-climatic and not true to the book.


33 posted on 08/09/2013 7:47:34 PM PDT by Atticus
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To: InvisibleChurch
They recently had a tribute to Kubrick at the Los Angeles County Museum of Art.

They had roomfuls of his work: photos, movie cels, props, scripts, etc. There might have been some sort of book created for this event that you could purchase.

34 posted on 08/09/2013 7:50:31 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

Thank you. I appreciate that.


35 posted on 08/09/2013 7:53:22 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: InvisibleChurch
I always thought Stanley Kubrick was overrated and pretentious.

People try to find intelligent messages in his films but they aren't there.

An early movie about the robbery of a racetrack was one of his best. 2001 Space Odyssey was terrible and almost unwatchable. Only high school students who were totally stoned could bear to sit through it.

Full Metal Jacket was ok in parts but too long. I saw the Shining when it first came out. It wasn't scary or suspenseful. It was just long and boring. Shelley Duval was annoying. Barry Lyndon was actually pretty good. Eyes Wide Shut was ok. But none of his films were intellectual masterpieces as the have been portrayed.

36 posted on 08/09/2013 7:53:36 PM PDT by detective
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To: massmike

37 posted on 08/09/2013 7:57:14 PM PDT by Delta 21 (Oh Crap !! Did I say that out loud ??!??)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Just watched a lot of that, and the one about the furniture.

Mr. Ager’s analysis is certainly enthusiastic, but in my opinion these are, in fact, simply continuity errors.


38 posted on 08/09/2013 7:57:41 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

I am a fan of Kubrick. I find the imagery that he utilized in all of his films to be staggering and truly brilliant on an intellectual level that escapes most. The hotel layout always baffled me, as well. I find two or three plausible intentions.

1.) It carried the importance of the maze inside - a confusing inner battle.

2.) It was a visual image of the nonsensical battle in Jack’s mind.

3.) It visualized the battle between Danny’s willingness to confront and Jack’s inability to come to terms with what was taking place.

I have always wondered why Kubrick chose to kill Jack using ice rather than the fire that King chose in the novel. Why? It seemed to me that King’s inferno from the boiler explosion was a permanent end. Was Kubrick’s freezing scene merely to represent a potential ‘preservation’, like freezing a roast? I could spend hours talking about Kubrick and the Shining and Eyes Wide Shut in particular.

I’ve read ‘The Philosophy of Stanley Kubrick’ and enjoyed doing so. My favorite read on Kubrick, to date has been ‘On Kubrick’ by James Naremore - it focused more on discussing his films rather than the man.


39 posted on 08/09/2013 8:02:06 PM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: detective
Funny you should say

" Only high school students who were totally stoned could bear to sit through it."

I saw 2001 with 2 high school friends who were both stoned ( I was not). Their viewing experience consisted of running back and forth into the bathroom where their squeals of laughter rang throughout the theater.

40 posted on 08/09/2013 8:02:18 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: RobertClark

Ok. Sounds good. I’ll look into On Kubrick. Thanks.


41 posted on 08/09/2013 8:10:32 PM PDT by InvisibleChurch (http://thegatwickview.tumblr.com/ http://thepurginglutheran.tumblr.com/)
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To: massmike; morphing libertarian; Straight Vermonter
You Philistines....




42 posted on 08/09/2013 8:13:55 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: detective
I always thought Stanley Kubrick was overrated and pretentious.

It's too bad that those of us who understand and enjoy Kubrick films aren't allowed to clue in those who don't.

43 posted on 08/09/2013 8:19:55 PM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: InvisibleChurch

Kubrick was like the Babe Ruth of movie makers. He always swung for the fence, sometimes he parked it, sometimes he whiffed....


44 posted on 08/09/2013 8:21:27 PM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: BenLurkin

Nope, still homely.


45 posted on 08/09/2013 8:27:36 PM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Moonman62

“It’s too bad that those of us who understand and enjoy Kubrick films aren’t allowed to clue in those who don’t.”

I guess it’s just my loss.


46 posted on 08/09/2013 8:37:10 PM PDT by detective
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To: InvisibleChurch

bflr


47 posted on 08/09/2013 8:50:00 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: InvisibleChurch

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48 posted on 08/09/2013 8:55:50 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

The Shining: LOVED IT
Clockwork: HATED IT ! ! !
2001: HATED IT ! ! ! ! !

Shelly: Hot in a weird way.

Watched a docu on the codes in Shining. Oh yeah, the lake is shaped like an A so Apollo 11 was a hoax. WHAT CRAP!


49 posted on 08/09/2013 9:00:05 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (Inbred, pedophile-worshipping, misogynists (mozlums) offend me.)
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To: dfwgator

You have a typo in there.


50 posted on 08/09/2013 9:03:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt (Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?)
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