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Breaking Bad -Last Season (spoilers for sure)
8/27/2013 | Mr. K

Posted on 08/27/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by Mr. K

Breaking Bad discussion here Last week was episode 511


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I can't start off because I missed it (but I am dying to find out what happened)
1 posted on 08/27/2013 11:55:44 AM PDT by Mr. K
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To: Mr. K

Well, now we know who nuked Walt’s house and spray-painted “Heisenberg” on the family room wall.


2 posted on 08/27/2013 11:59:00 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: discostu; Talisker; Borges; Theophilus; SamAdams76; Semper911; Ransomed; Delta Dawn; JouleZ; ...

Breaking Bad Discussion thread
PING LIST
Let me know if you want on or off this list


3 posted on 08/27/2013 11:59:21 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

get out- already? I created a new thread


4 posted on 08/27/2013 11:59:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

Did I say something wrong?


5 posted on 08/27/2013 12:01:40 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Looks like it’s going to be a showdown between Jesse and Walt. In the first episode the flashback showed Walt returning to the burnt out home to retrieve the poison. I wonder whether at this point Jesse is alive. I didn’t quite get how Jesse came to his epiphany about Saul and Walt in the last show concerning the removal of the poison from his cigarette pack. Can anyone explain?


6 posted on 08/27/2013 12:06:09 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
and spray-painted “Heisenberg” on the family room wall.

That part will never be revealed.

7 posted on 08/27/2013 12:07:09 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Mr. K

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UUD3zyu7Ek


8 posted on 08/27/2013 12:08:46 PM PDT by TomServo
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To: Mr. K

The show is written sooooo well but I have one beef. When Skylar was confronted by Hank about what he knew about Walter, it seemed strange that the subject of a wife not being able to testfy against a husband was not brought up? Nor has it been brought up in earlier shows when Skylar threatened Walter about exposure.


9 posted on 08/27/2013 12:09:28 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: AtlasStalled

First Jesse realized that Saul’s henchmen had lifted his weed.

That reminded him of the day when he “lost” the ricin cigarette.

He was bumped by the same goon.

That’s why he put 2 and 2 together.

Plus he probably had always wondered about it.


10 posted on 08/27/2013 12:09:45 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

LOL no! I just a figure of speach - like “you’re kidding”

I missed the show so i can’t believe they already showed who nuke his house and sprayed “hisenburg”

My bet was on his son- once he found out, he sprayed it.


11 posted on 08/27/2013 12:11:02 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: NeoCaveman

Thanks.

I have a pretty good memory and follow the show pretty closely but that plot line always confused me a bit.

There’s so much about the show I like particularly the way it shows the involvement of corporate fronts like Gus and his chicken franchise.


12 posted on 08/27/2013 12:11:56 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Cyman

A wife cannot be COMPELLED to testify against her husband, but she can if she wants to.


13 posted on 08/27/2013 12:12:29 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K

On please, thanks!


14 posted on 08/27/2013 12:14:02 PM PDT by COUNTrecount (There's no there there.)
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To: AtlasStalled
Jesse brushed by Huell on the way out of Saul's office, and his dope was missing.

In a previous episode, Huell had insisted on frisking Jesse before allowing him into Saul's office. It was during this frisk that the ricin cigarette disappeared.

This is the connection Jesse made while waiting for the pickup van and discovering that his dope was gone.

15 posted on 08/27/2013 12:17:14 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: AtlasStalled
I have a pretty good memory and follow the show pretty closely but that plot line always confused me a bit.

Me too!

I Think I was in denial hoping that Walt didn't really poison that kid.

he poisoned that kid.

16 posted on 08/27/2013 12:18:13 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: Mr. K

Walt’s “confession” was absolute evil genius.


17 posted on 08/27/2013 12:18:17 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Cyman

A wife can voluntarily testify against her husband, but she cannot be forced to.


18 posted on 08/27/2013 12:18:28 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: NeoCaveman

“he poisoned that kid”

Walt’s a sociopath! It all really is about him, and everyone else is just a tool.


19 posted on 08/27/2013 12:19:31 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Malone LaVeigh
Walt’s “confession” was absolute evil genius.

And it tied in so many great moments and plot twists. It was a great recap, from another perspective.

20 posted on 08/27/2013 12:19:46 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: NeoCaveman

I loved the DVD confession part from White that he gave to Hank and the wife. That was classic putting Hank in a very tough situation to wiggle out of, especially cause they paid #200G for his recovery. They are so on with this whole series....


21 posted on 08/27/2013 12:19:48 PM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I missed that- so did walt actually poison that girls daughter? wow... i must have missed more than I thought

I know he made a replacement cigarette and went through the whole charade of searching the house for hours, only to pretend to find it in the vacuuming robot


22 posted on 08/27/2013 12:19:50 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

It was pretty ingenious because it was peppered with enough truth (like the money to pay for Hank’s rehab)


23 posted on 08/27/2013 12:20:56 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: NeoCaveman
I was in denial hoping that Walt didn't really poison that kid.

That would have been put to rest when we saw Walt disposing of the "Lilly of the Valley" plant after the successful bombing of Gus Fring.

24 posted on 08/27/2013 12:21:42 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

And if jesse put 2 and 2 together and realized Walt poisoned the kid, that’s gonna be bad ....

it will certainly lead to a showdown


25 posted on 08/27/2013 12:22:12 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

LOL- are you another one putting me on?


26 posted on 08/27/2013 12:22:40 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: AtlasStalled
Walt’s a sociopath! It all really is about him, and everyone else is just a tool.

By now he's a master manipulator.

In the first of the new ones Marie says to Walt (laughing) "You're the devil" in the preview for next week's Jesse says "he's (Walt) the devil. I think we all get that point now. Walt, through his deeds has become totally evil and beyond redemption.

27 posted on 08/27/2013 12:22:58 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: NeoCaveman
First Jesse realized that Saul’s henchmen had lifted his weed.

That reminded him of the day when he “lost” the ricin cigarette.

He was bumped by the same goon.


Ohhhh....that sequence had me a bit confused too. Thanks.
28 posted on 08/27/2013 12:23:06 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: Mr. K
The last episode of season 4 we saw Walt disposing of the "Lilly of the Valley" plant right after the successful bombing of Gus Fring, so at that point we could be certain.

The writing is spectacularly good. All the details fit, and there are so many details that you can't possibly catch them all. That's why these threads are fun, because you get to find out things that you missed.

29 posted on 08/27/2013 12:24:26 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: NeoCaveman

The problem is...........the doctors told Jesse that Brock was poisoned by Lily Of The Valley and not ricin when it was all over and done with and the kid was out of danger. Jesse was at the cop shop answering questions about why he had told the docs it might be ricin, an illegal substance.

Now, the question that stumps me is how did Walt get the Lily Of The Valley concoction into Brock whom he had only seen the night before from Jesse’s front porchthey night before.


30 posted on 08/27/2013 12:24:54 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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To: NeoCaveman
I Think I was in denial hoping that Walt didn't really poison that kid.

he poisoned that kid.


I think he used that flower in the pot by his pool to make that kid sick enough to get Jesse to think he had been poisoned by the Ricin right?
31 posted on 08/27/2013 12:25:51 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: AtlasStalled

Stir enough half-truths into the pot and eventually you’re going to imagine a whole truth.


32 posted on 08/27/2013 12:25:57 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Mr. K

He did that math already.


33 posted on 08/27/2013 12:26:25 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Mr. K

Yeah, add me please.


34 posted on 08/27/2013 12:27:03 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

I think it was a great TV moment. I know I’ll always remember it.

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35 posted on 08/27/2013 12:27:31 PM PDT by Mears
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

‘A wife can voluntarily testify against her husband, but she cannot be forced to”

I am not an attorney but I thought spousal privilege applies to EITHER one of the two and could be invoked by either one or both.


36 posted on 08/27/2013 12:27:44 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: mmichaels1970
I think he used that flower in the pot by his pool to make that kid sick enough to get Jesse to think he had been poisoned by the Ricin right?

That makes sense.

I'm feeling like I need to rewatch the end of season 4.

37 posted on 08/27/2013 12:27:51 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: NeoCaveman

“Walt, through his deeds has become totally evil and beyond redemption”

The $64,000 question:

What will be Walt’s earthly fate? The drug trade rarely ends well for those involved, and Walt pretty much is primed up to get gunned down or behind bars. Even the best can survive only so long.


38 posted on 08/27/2013 12:28:22 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: Cyman

I do believe that a wife is able to testify against her husband.

The wife however, cannot be ‘compelled’ to testify against her husband.


39 posted on 08/27/2013 12:30:02 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: AtlasStalled
What will be Walt’s earthly fate? The drug trade rarely ends well for those involved, and Walt pretty much is primed up to get gunned down or behind bars. Even the best can survive only so long.

My guesses in order of likelyhood

1. Killed by Jesse.
2. Killed by Hank
3. Killed by Lydia/Todd/the rest of that gang
3.5 The Mexican Cartel gets him
4. Arrested by DEA
5. Cancer takes him
6. He survives, broke and alone.

40 posted on 08/27/2013 12:31:23 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: Cyman

yes, you are correct it applies to husband or wife

A person cannot be COMPELLED to testify against a spouse (but they can if they want to)


41 posted on 08/27/2013 12:31:44 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: AtlasStalled
What will be Walt’s earthly fate?

Betcha he dies wasted away of cancer in a bed, alone, somewhere far away from his family.
42 posted on 08/27/2013 12:31:56 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: AtlasStalled

I don’t think Jesse makes it all the way to burn down Walts house, sloshing gasoline around, I do not remember evidence of burning when Walt goes back to retrieve the ricin capsule. Just ransacking and vandalism with the painted Heisenberg on the living room wall is all I remember seeing.

Does Jesse get plugged by Walt in the living room?


43 posted on 08/27/2013 12:38:49 PM PDT by biff (WAS)
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44 posted on 08/27/2013 12:39:20 PM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: AtlasStalled
Even the best can survive only so long.

And Todd (how evil is this kid) telling his Uncle and sidekick "Heisenberg's" real name, cannot be good for Walt.

45 posted on 08/27/2013 12:39:35 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: AtlasStalled

‘The $64,000 question:’

It is more like the $500 million dollar question. Not sure how much money was stashed in the storage locker but it was a lot.


46 posted on 08/27/2013 12:40:36 PM PDT by Delta Dawn (Fluent in two languages: English and cursive.)
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To: NeoCaveman
In the opening scene in of this Season (Part 2), there is Walter celebrating his 52nd birthday in the future . It shows his weaponry in the trunk. I think this leads to either going out in a blaze of glory, or Vince Gilligan is planning some ingenious way for Walt to survive and assume a different identity.

Doesn't hurt to have him available for future spinoffs.

47 posted on 08/27/2013 12:41:02 PM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: Delta Dawn

“It is more like the $500 million dollar question”

There was a lot of money in that storage locker. That’s what gets these guys in the business. This guy named El Chapo who heads the Sinaloa cartel is a Forbes listed billionaire.


48 posted on 08/27/2013 12:43:10 PM PDT by AtlasStalled
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To: mmichaels1970

Well we know from the season beginning that Walter is alone on his next birthday (he has to arrange his bacon himself) and he bought a bunch of guns, and then got the ricin in a house that was ransacked and had ‘hisenburg’ painted on the wall.

Everything has to lead up to that

So Skyler and the kids are gone.

The house is fenced off, but Walt is not in jail... and planning something bad

The bedroom door kicked in (means what?)

I dont remember what the signs on the house say (not police or FBI signs, were they? more like HazMat?)


49 posted on 08/27/2013 12:46:19 PM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Mr. K
Final scene of that poisoned kid episode was Walt sitting by his pool and the camera zoomed in on a plant that had a tag on it "Lilly of The Valley" (berries are poisonous.)

Then in the season ender Walt cleans up the house getting rid of the bomb evidence and he throws that plant away also.

50 posted on 08/27/2013 12:46:27 PM PDT by Mad Dawgg (If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
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