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Oakland Man Guilty Of Murdering Friend During Argument Over Existence Of God
CBS LOCAL ^ | September 3, 2013

Posted on 09/04/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway

An Oakland man has been found guilty of first-degree murder for shooting and killing his friend during an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument over the existence of God.

33-year-old Douglas Yim was also found guilty Tuesday of assault with a firearm and mayhem for shooting a second friend in his living room two years ago.

Yim killed 25-year-old Dzuy Duhn Phan after a night of partying and playing video games. Another friend, Paul Park, testified the two men had engaged in a heated discussion about God.

Yim became enraged and grabbed his gun after Phan asked Yim where God was when Yim’s father died of a stroke several years earlier.

Yim shot Phan at least six times. Park was also hit by a bullet.

Yim faces 126 years to life in prison.


TOPICS: Local News; Religion; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: douglasyim

1 posted on 09/04/2013 11:30:41 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Well, now one of them knows they were right.


2 posted on 09/04/2013 11:31:34 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: Puppage

That is really a great (and droll!) observation.


3 posted on 09/04/2013 11:34:09 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: nickcarraway

Yim shot Phan?

Can’t make this stuff up...


4 posted on 09/04/2013 11:35:25 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: nickcarraway
It doesn't sound like a theological discussion.

It sounds like one guy taunting another guy over his father's untimely death.

5 posted on 09/04/2013 11:37:05 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Puppage

Although—now that I think about it—it would be more accurate to say that one of them (Phan) knows who (Kim) was right.

Right?


6 posted on 09/04/2013 11:38:21 AM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: Fightin Whitey

The FFRF will probably use this incident in one of their promo pamphlets now


7 posted on 09/04/2013 11:40:56 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: nickcarraway
Reminds me of an argument I had with an atheist in college.

I said, if we're just random chemical processes, then who really cares if my random chemical process shoots your random chemical process in the head?

His reply: "You're taking this random chemical process business too far."

And another agnostic roommate came home one night complaining about having been at a bar and watching a class mate humble a stripper in the bar in front of everybody. He said that was wrong.

Me: "If there is no God, what's wrong about it?"

Him: "I don't know, I just know it's wrong."

Me: "Maybe you were designed to know that it's wrong."

8 posted on 09/04/2013 11:41:10 AM PDT by DannyTN
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To: nickcarraway
...an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument over the existence of God. 33-year-old Douglas Yim...killed 25-year-old Dzuy Duhn Phan after a night of partying and playing video games.

The dangers of irresponsibility and prolonged adolescence.

9 posted on 09/04/2013 11:41:38 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Just a common, ordinary, simple savior of America's destiny.)
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To: Regulator

Certainly the gun was to blame. Had nothing to do with booze or coke (which king hussein says he did when they could get it) or the person that pulled the trigger.


10 posted on 09/04/2013 11:41:48 AM PDT by rktman (Inergalactic background checks? King hussein you're first up.)
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To: nickcarraway
Yim became enraged and grabbed his gun after Phan asked Yim where God was when Yim’s father died of a stroke several years earlier.

Mr Phan found out that the guy with the gun will always get the last word.

11 posted on 09/04/2013 11:45:02 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Regulator; Revolting cat!

Sum Ting Wong?


12 posted on 09/04/2013 11:45:16 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Regulator

Phan sounds Vietnamese
Park sounds Korean
Yim sounds Venusian


13 posted on 09/04/2013 11:47:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: a fool in paradise

What was that other name? “Bang Ow”?


14 posted on 09/04/2013 11:47:56 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: DannyTN
Me: "If there is no God, what's wrong about it?"

Him: "I don't know, I just know it's wrong."

Me: "Maybe you were designed to know that it's wrong."

Interesting. It's like why we are different from animals. A bear will not feel remorse about eating a toddler that wondered from a camp site. We don't blame the mauling of a human on the vicious dog, but its owner or even its breed (race). Still there are some animals that seem to demonstrate emotional feelings when one of their own offspring dies (elephants, etc.).

What makes us special that we know right from wrong? If we are no different than animals, we should not have these moral instincs beyond our own race (humans). But we do.

15 posted on 09/04/2013 11:50:09 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: a fool in paradise

We Tu Lo and Bang Ding Ouw


16 posted on 09/04/2013 11:50:53 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (Waiting for next tagline.)
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To: Fightin Whitey

LOL. Agreed.


17 posted on 09/04/2013 11:51:47 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: DannyTN

What were you doing hnging around with agnostics and atheists?

(That’s just a rhetoriccal question — I don’t expect an answer.)


18 posted on 09/04/2013 11:56:52 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: nickcarraway
...shooting and killing his friend during an alcohol and cocaine-fueled argument ... after a night of partying ... the two men had engaged in a heated discussion about God. Yim became enraged and grabbed his gun after Phan asked Yim where God was when Yim’s father died of a stroke... Yim shot Phan at least six times.

Sorry, that's not first degree murder.

That's provoked heat of passion under the influence, not premeditation.

So second degree probably, third degree maybe.

But not first.

19 posted on 09/04/2013 12:01:11 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: nickcarraway
It did hit the Phan. RIP.
20 posted on 09/04/2013 12:07:02 PM PDT by JPG (Obama, Juan and Linda Do Syria.)
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To: Tenacious 1

“What makes us special that we know right from wrong? If we are no different than animals, we should not have these moral instincs beyond our own race (humans). But we do.”

I think the basic difference there is empathy. We can put ourselves in the place of a bear who lost its cub, but the bear cannot put itself in our place and sympathize with us. That’s why psychotics, who have no empathy, behave pretty much exactly like predatory animals.


21 posted on 09/04/2013 12:16:14 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: nickcarraway

I once knew a guy who played drums for Jerry Lee Lewis in the early days. He told me a story about how one night on the bus some guy said he didn’t believe in God. Jerry Lee kicked him off the bus and drove off, leaving him standing on the side of the road in the middle of the night.


22 posted on 09/04/2013 12:45:44 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: nickcarraway

126 years to life in prison.

In California this means probable parole in six months.


23 posted on 09/04/2013 12:56:50 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: Regulator

Darn Amish


24 posted on 09/04/2013 1:21:39 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: nickcarraway

So what did they decide?


25 posted on 09/04/2013 1:23:31 PM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: VerySadAmerican
Jerry Lee kicked him off the bus and drove off, leaving him standing on the side of the road in the middle of the night.

Goodness, gracious, great balls of meaningless energized matter!

26 posted on 09/04/2013 1:36:52 PM PDT by Drawsing
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To: nickcarraway
where God was

If only they had known.

27 posted on 09/04/2013 4:16:31 PM PDT by MosesKnows (Love many, trust few, and always paddle your own canoe.)
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