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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back (Really?)
Semi -Accurate ^ | Sep 18, 2013 | Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 09/20/2013 11:02:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back

IDF 2013: Rant - Dead and gone because that is what Intel wants for some reason

I went to IDF this year hoping to find a reason that PCs weren’t doomed and came away knowing all key players are actively making things worse. The PC isn’t just in trouble, it is actively being destroyed because no one involved is interested in changing.

Lets face it, the modern Windows 8 PC is a miserable experience, it is not a step forward from its predecessors in any measurable way but the steps backward are as numerous as they are obvious. The forthcoming Windows 8.1 is at best window dressing attempting to placate the critics without actually fixing any of their complaints.

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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Yeah, data entry clerks will be typing in data on touchscreens. Students will be writing term papers on tablets. Way to go Madame Blovatzky! Got any more perdictions?


21 posted on 09/20/2013 11:32:10 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I wish PC was going away and not coming back.


22 posted on 09/20/2013 11:37:51 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Baseballguy

“The avg college kid does not have a PC. Most are tablets. “

How do they possibly write papers like that?


23 posted on 09/20/2013 11:40:20 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: madison10

Don’t forget that tablets are not very ergonomic. As a person with many orthopedic issues, some unknown but most definitely showing themselves, I can attest to this. They would need to make equipment to make tablets truly nice to use at a desk. But they would still be too small.


24 posted on 09/20/2013 11:40:35 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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To: Advil000

You got it. But none of what you say makes the Windows OS any better than it is and has been. 2013, and as it was in 1983, it is still a single user machine with a single file version file system, no batch processing facility, primitive command line shell, etc, etc. (I know the “workarounds”, no need to educate me.) Compare to what was available in 1983.


25 posted on 09/20/2013 11:40:38 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Advil000

“But the HATE. The outright HATE every single solitary time MS releases a new OS... MS isn’t killing the PC, the users are doing it themselves by being unsatisfiable no matter what MS does.”

Nonsense. The users are very satisfiable, but MS doesn’t seem to care about customer satisfaction. If they did, they wouldn’t get rid of features that the users like without seeking feedback first. On the contrary, even after they release the product and get tons of negative feedback, they still ignore the users.

MS doesn’t operate on a model of giving users what they want, they operate on a model of giving users what MS thinks they should want. That is the main source of customer dissatisfaction. Blaming the customers for a business’ failures is just silly.


26 posted on 09/20/2013 11:41:55 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Revolting cat!

If you had said 2000 instead of 1983, I might agree with you to an extent.


27 posted on 09/20/2013 11:44:14 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Boogieman

Reasonable or not - they should have made the metro interface “opt in” rather than “opt out”. So I agree with you. They could have saved themselves millions and untold heartache simply by making the new UI a choice instead of a hazard.


28 posted on 09/20/2013 11:44:18 AM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: MNDude
Yep. It's not easy programming on a smart phone.

Tried it :)
29 posted on 09/20/2013 11:44:48 AM PDT by RedMDer (http://www.dontfundobamacare.com/)
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To: Boogieman

That’s not how it would work. Everything would be remote hosted. Your local machine would not have any storage. It would be akin to a WYSE terminal with network connectivity, USB ports for peripherals, and an HDMI output for your monitor/TV. Everything’s in the cloud.

Even in your example, however, all that’s required is a kernel-mode exploit to sniff all of the channels into your processor, and your data is no longer secure.

Microsoft’s already going “to the cloud” with Office 365 in the business world. All of our email is stored on MS servers with remote hosts handling all mail exchanges. This is an end run for Microsoft to finally get what they believe is theirs and no longer have to worry about losing money to licensing for their Office products. The next generation of corporate desktops will be hosted by Microsoft. Mark my words.


30 posted on 09/20/2013 11:47:49 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: MNDude
"but if you ever want to create a document, presentation, or spreadsheet,"

Video editing?, computer programming?, data analysis?

31 posted on 09/20/2013 11:48:24 AM PDT by Paladin2 (h)
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To: Red Badger

Google is trying its hand at that market with Chromebooks. Android was not quite appropriate for laptops apparently.


32 posted on 09/20/2013 11:49:16 AM PDT by mwilli20 (BO. Making communists proud all over the world.)
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To: rarestia

“Microsoft’s already going “to the cloud” with Office 365...”

I think you are right. I would never do it myself and I think business would go for a private cloud maybe, but that is where MS is going.


33 posted on 09/20/2013 11:49:57 AM PDT by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I don’t know what you had in 1983, but my Toshiba notebook from 2013 running W8 bears no resemblance to my Toshiba laptop from 1983 running MSDOS, in terms of functionality.


34 posted on 09/20/2013 11:50:19 AM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: Advil000
I still don’t find Windows 8 “miserable”. Anyone who continues that line has an agenda. If you can use windows 7, you can use windows 8. Period. It’s about 4 clicks different. And some of the context menus make managing your machine easier, not harder.

Says the Microsoft Salesman/ Vendor

But the HATE. The outright HATE every single solitary time MS releases a new OS...

Only since XP

MS isn’t killing the PC, the users are doing it themselves by being unsatisfiable no matter what MS does.

Blame the customer, Yeah that worked out so well for JCPenny

When your only argument for something is "you are just too stupid to understand how great it is" you know you are wrong. See Soccer, Presta Valves, 2001 A Space Odyssey for other examples

35 posted on 09/20/2013 11:52:50 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: 867V309

I’m not talking about hardware or laptops, I’m talking about operating system technology. Software.


36 posted on 09/20/2013 11:55:03 AM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Revolting cat!

I like W8 way better than MSDOS. But that’s just me.


37 posted on 09/20/2013 12:01:07 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: Advil000
I still don’t find Windows 8 “miserable”. Anyone who continues that line has an agenda.

I use ALL versions of Windows (except ME) at work on various medical imaging modalities. I hate Windows 8. Yes, I HATE Eight.

I love Windows 7, and couldn't wait to dump the Vista abomination for it.

Before that, I have always like XP. I was a little put off by the registration crap if you changed components at first, but it is fairly painless.

Before that, Winders 2000 was a major step up from 98, which wasn't bad in it's time. 95 was slightly better than 3.1.

So there you go, I've recounted my opinions of all of Macro$ucks operating systems. No agenda, just honesty. Windows 8 sucks ass, and that's all there is to it.

38 posted on 09/20/2013 12:02:58 PM PDT by EricT. (Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength. Big brother is watching you.)
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To: 867V309

The world of operating systems has been wider than Windows, MSDOS and Linux, and that’s the point. No one’s comparing Windows to ONLY MSDOS, although unfortunately, Windows, for reasons which once had to to with backward compatibility carries MSDOS’ weaknesses to this day.


39 posted on 09/20/2013 12:07:16 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten

That’s exactly right. This ‘PC is dead’ stuff is nonsense. People still have and require (not everyone, but anyone who works for a living on a computer) real computers.

However, the days of people upgrading every two years are long over. That’s why people aren’t buying PCs. I’ve always been a pretty ‘cutting edge’ type of guy when it comes to my desktop, I built it in 2010 (because my previous one died) and I have no need to upgrade it now or in the foreseeable future unless it breaks. Same with my laptop from 2009. I added more ram and an SSD, but the base system is untouched, because it does everything I need it to do.

Simply put, they’ve hit a wall where the new advances aren’t worth the money to upgrade.

This wall has also been hit with phones and tablets and is just beginning to show itself in the market. For instance, I have a Galaxy Note 2. I bought it when I broke the screen on my Galaxy Note. Unless something happens to my Note 2, I have no interest whatsoever in the new model that they just released. It simply doesn’t offer anything compelling to make it worth upgrading to.


40 posted on 09/20/2013 12:11:51 PM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm
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