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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back (Really?)
Semi -Accurate ^ | Sep 18, 2013 | Charlie Demerjian

Posted on 09/20/2013 11:02:42 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach

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Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back

IDF 2013: Rant - Dead and gone because that is what Intel wants for some reason

I went to IDF this year hoping to find a reason that PCs weren’t doomed and came away knowing all key players are actively making things worse. The PC isn’t just in trouble, it is actively being destroyed because no one involved is interested in changing.

Lets face it, the modern Windows 8 PC is a miserable experience, it is not a step forward from its predecessors in any measurable way but the steps backward are as numerous as they are obvious. The forthcoming Windows 8.1 is at best window dressing attempting to placate the critics without actually fixing any of their complaints.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

Da spoons and fooorks are dead.
People are drinking from the bottles.

FUBO


41 posted on 09/20/2013 12:13:44 PM PDT by Leo Carpathian (FReeeeepeesssssed)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Why rant about Windows 8 when Windows 7 is solid, useful and not an abortion intended to serve all platforms?
As long as Microsoft and Intel continue to support Win7, it can live forever.

Just remember VISTA. I would still be nursing Windows XP as long as humanly possible were in not for the VISTA replacement.

Manufacturers cannot force customers to accept and use crap. they are not the Federal government.

In the last few days, there was a report of a new chip that allow gigabite memory which is faster, smaller and uses 1/10 the power. I can't see, even if it were possible, using telephones, netbooks and game consoles to do serious computing on a tiny device.

A 20 Gig PC built into a Standard Sized keyboard would be true, useful evolution.

Windows 8? FUGGEDABOUTID!

42 posted on 09/20/2013 12:14:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Windows 8 is better than any version of windows I have ever used. I go back to Win 3.0.

Windows 8.1 is a very nice upgrade to Windows 8.


43 posted on 09/20/2013 12:16:37 PM PDT by Spruce
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The problem with Windows features development has always been that Microsoft, as all computer companies, has responded to the demands of the loudest and biggest (buying volume) corporate managers, as a rule, non-technical people, who in turn respond to their corporate suckups.


44 posted on 09/20/2013 12:20:39 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

Speak in Hyperbole much?

Windows 8 is a disaster, but PC’s are a commodity and given windows 8 sucks and it is nearly impossible to find a PC without it, most folks are holding onto their good enough PCs rather than upgrading.


45 posted on 09/20/2013 12:21:51 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Revolting cat!
YOU were comparing Windows, new vs. old: But none of what you say makes the Windows OS any better than it is and has been. 2013, and as it was in 1983, it is still a single user machine ...

Of course MSDOS wasn't Windows, but it was the MS operating system.
46 posted on 09/20/2013 12:25:19 PM PDT by 867V309 (Stupidity is ordained; Ignorance is a choice.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Oh great!
After reading the comments at that link, I need to go wash my brain.

I have no time, and never will, for illiterate morons whose existence is now in cellphonespeak.
I value whatever insights or comments they have less than zero. If their ability to communicate is that fragile, I can't conceive how their technical opinions are worth spit.

47 posted on 09/20/2013 12:33:03 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Revolting cat!; Advil000
[...] as it was in 1983, it is still a single user machine with a single file version file system, no batch processing facility, primitive command line shell, etc, etc. [...] Compare to what was available in 1983.

Comparing DOS to NTVDM is absurd, without even mentioning PowerShell. One of the best new things in NTVDM is the innate ability to process lists in a FOR loop, making batch processing a cinch. Add to that the ability to use (and the improvement in) jscript, vbscript, and wscript (again, not even mentioning PowerShell), and there is no comparison whatsoever.

48 posted on 09/20/2013 12:35:29 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

I’m sure glad I read this.

I’ve been working all day on an order for 25 PCs (with Win 7) to upgrade my training lab.

I probably should just forget it and buy 25 tablets...


49 posted on 09/20/2013 12:38:13 PM PDT by chrisser (Senseless legislation does nothing to solve senseless violence.)
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To: Boogieman
A remote kernel, with local storage, would be interesting. No need to worry about viruses, since there is no local OS to infect, but your data could still be fairly secure residing physically on your own computer

I seldom use a PC without access to an electrical plug, even my laptops.
However, I can't imagine not being able to do real adult work on a PC in environments, which I have often experienced, where there is no access to the internet.

50 posted on 09/20/2013 12:38:24 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: roamer_1
(again, not even mentioning PowerShell)

And yet you mention it twice. I was comparing Windows to early Windows (even if I got the early date wrong. And I ran Windows 1.0) So tell me, where are batch queues, with user modifiable priorities, permissions, ownership, etc? A FOR loop has been known since the dawn of programming languages. Batch queues have been known for 40 years or more. Manipulation/management of running processes for as long. Windows yesterday and today is MSDOS with pictures. (Exaggeration.)

51 posted on 09/20/2013 12:52:42 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: the OlLine Rebel
I wish PC was going away and not coming back.

Either someone forgot a "sarc" tag, or Luddites Live!

52 posted on 09/20/2013 12:57:35 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: EricT.
I'm a heavy computer user, and I finally relented and got a windows 8 computer.

And yes, at first, I hated it.

Now? I dont hate it, dont LOVE it either, but actually, as an OS, is is quite good, its the UI that needs tweaking. I do some of my own tweaks, and have found that I have gotten use to the lack of the "start" button. At the moment, operating this computer, compared with my Win 7 computes, is 99+% the same. So I have no real problems with it.

That said, when 8.1 comes out, I plan to upgrade.

So all in all, I give it, currently, a 7 out of 10 at the moment.

53 posted on 09/20/2013 1:01:50 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: rarestia
The next generation of corporate desktops will be hosted by Microsoft. Mark my words.

Except for the huge businesses, which basically don't care, since they hire morons, inadvertently, most serious, smoothly-running businesses, medium and small, will bail wholesale.

Mark my words.

54 posted on 09/20/2013 1:09:55 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: ken5050

I have of prz.lens writing anything one mt android.


55 posted on 09/20/2013 1:10:20 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: ken5050

I have of prz.lens writing anything one mt android.


56 posted on 09/20/2013 1:10:42 PM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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To: 867V309
I like W8 way better than MSDOS. But that’s just me.

I don't care who you are, that was hilarious.

Apple gay hairdressers and artists are having a monumental hissy fit. I like that.

57 posted on 09/20/2013 1:13:21 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

“Intel proves once and for all that PCs are not coming back”

Sure. And 50% of the cars on the road are now electric.


58 posted on 09/20/2013 1:20:19 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach

The death of the pc is just following society. As people become just consumers, they don’t create anything anymore. There is no market for creative tools (PCs) when there is no creative market. Hardly anyone is creating anything these days. They just consume and suck $$$ out of the market. Sad to see it happen. PC companies are just focusing on where they can sell products. They are just selling consumption devices.


59 posted on 09/20/2013 1:26:10 PM PDT by phalynx
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To: publius911

I think one should be able to tell by the way it is written. There are no syntactical mistakes, no typos. ;-)


60 posted on 09/20/2013 1:27:19 PM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Technological progress cannot be legislated.)
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