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What About Us Retirees ?
self ^ | September 26, 2013 | knarf

Posted on 09/26/2013 6:29:37 AM PDT by knarf

With all the obamascare going on, I wonder about my situation as a retiree ...


TOPICS: Education; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Reference
KEYWORDS: insurance; obamacare; retiree
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To: EnquiringMind

oh yeah, medicate, don’t accept the fact that our country is totally screwed up

would medicating have helped those in the gulags?


61 posted on 09/26/2013 7:19:41 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk; knarf

***50 years ago government jobs were for losers**

50 years ago, if you told someone you had worked for the “government”, it meant you were probably on a chain gang.


62 posted on 09/26/2013 7:20:17 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: knarf

Obama says if you have a health issue then just take a pill, and grab your ankles.


63 posted on 09/26/2013 7:21:23 AM PDT by Rappini (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: yldstrk
That's a bullshit statement ...

" ... they want to pull out more than they paid in..."

We don't WANT to pull out "more than we put in"

Most of us never really thought about the whys and wherefores of SS until it happened, and if you think about it .... most people EVER, never thought about it until maybe 5 or 10 years ago when conversation on the internet prompted it.

But I'm not gonn'a beat YOU up ... you're doing a good job of it yourself with the job that you probably HAVE to keep.

I'll pray for you.

64 posted on 09/26/2013 7:24:46 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: gop4lyf

This is all about getting rid of 60 and over folks. The only way to secure SS is to kill those on the program. Sorry.


65 posted on 09/26/2013 7:29:27 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: RFEngineer

i feel the same frustrations.

at the very least, speak to others on
Medicare-—they are great at supporting
the programs and elected officials that
support their interests. they are also a
huge, vocal and committed voting block.

if possible, send $ contributions to those
working really hard to make a difference:
senators Cruz, Lee, Sessions, etc.


66 posted on 09/26/2013 7:34:47 AM PDT by krunkygirl (force multiplier in effect...)
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To: iowamark; All

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67 posted on 09/26/2013 7:35:04 AM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs stay silent.)
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To: DownInFlames
Viet Nam by directive.

I've often said (though not so much lately .. ) that Viet Nam was the way to kill the educated white guy.

Oh, I know a lot of blacks were in service too ... but back in the sixties, blacks were more of a nuisance that a faction to contend with.

We white kids got the benefit of post world war 2 public school education (which was good back then), and the afluence of post world war 2 jobs and job security.

Anyone that wasn't working in the sixties worked at NOT working ... jobs were everywhere.

We were educated, mindful and reasoning .... dangerous to an establishment ... so they got rid of many young men in war.

That will always be my theory and too many arguments and conversations have not changed me.

68 posted on 09/26/2013 7:36:49 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: satan
My doctor (former doctor) still accepts Medicare BUT he now charges $1800 per year per patient for Medical Concierge if you wish to make an appointment. Medical Concierge‎ coming to your area soon. """ I'll bet that is an UP FRONT payment in FULL, also. Sort of like a retainer for your lawyer. If you die a month later--no refunds to your estate.‎
69 posted on 09/26/2013 7:39:37 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: cuban leaf
You have the right priorities. Non spiritual people can't understand it so they attack it. Many Boomers went through life punching the clock every day and now are old and have little in the spiritual realm to show for it. If you saved your money, good for you, you now ride around in your diesel pusher paying $4 for gas and running from boredom at home. If you didn't save your money, you wake up daily wondering how you will make it through the month and having envy for the guy running around in his motor home. In the end none of this matters because it's all vanity. What are Boomers doing for God? Do they have a family that's not divorcing or addicted to drugs?

If someone works 40 years and retires, what will God think of the treasure you have in heaven?

Now the flames that are about to descend upon me, Just take a moment to weigh the gold and silver in your life against the wood and paper to find out if you are TRULY happy.

One thing for sure, we were all born dying. Unless the King comes back soon, we will die and our lives will be weighed and we will wonder why we spent so much valuable time chasing nothing that lasts. It's all vanity.

I will have to answer why I spent so much time typing posts on FR.

Just sayin.

70 posted on 09/26/2013 7:42:11 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: yldstrk

“If I get sick, either I will get well on my own or I will croak.”

I so want to agree with you and cuban leaf and others. But stuff just hurts so bad sometimes you have to seek some releif.
Let me suggest kidney stones. Not the under 5mm which CAN pass but hurt but the greater than 6mm ones that cannot pass small tubing. They will have you on the floor writhing in a pain that doesn’t quit. They’ll have you telling secrets you don’t even know for relief.

Had ‘em...can’t say I wouldn’t literally crawl for some toradol.

Some things may let you die in a dignified pain like some cancers. But other things? OMG.

Just my opine...


71 posted on 09/26/2013 7:46:07 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: yldstrk

I am going to work to pay you and the others who argue they paid into the system except they want to pull out more than they paid in...”””

WE all paid in EXACTLY what the government told us to pay in. This was done by DEDUCTION-—we never saw the money.

Our employers matched our deductions penny for penny.

Those of us who were also self-employed paid the entire tab—15.3% of our net self-employment income. We also paid for our own health care coverage & usually NOT as part of a GROUP plan-—we were on a ‘single person’ plan. When my health insurance went from $240 a month at age 54 to $580 a month the day I turned 55, I had to drop all coverage. MY health hadn’t changed one little bit. I was the same the day before as the day after. I went 10 years without any health insurance & paid out of pocket for whatever I needed.

I did NOT set the rates for those FICA deductions for all those 50+ years I worked. The Feds did.

I also did NOT set the payment amounts I receive.

I also was frozen at one amount for 3 years.
Prices did NOT stay frozen. Used to buy beef. Now barely buy chicken.

Actually did an experiment the past December. Ate NOTHING but cereal for the entire month. Wanted to see how much I would need & how much milk. Wanted to see if I would be bored to death & lose any energy.

Didn’t turn out badly——at least I know part of my back up plan for when the SHTF in the country. 6 large boxes of cereal & about 4 gallons of milk ill feed me for a month.


72 posted on 09/26/2013 7:51:39 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: seeker41
I have a question for a Vet that uses the VA. Many use other sources so I really haven't spoken to users very much about a personal decision.

My question is,...If you could, would you choose to stay with VA or would you rather have a VA card that would get you into any local hospital in the country that was accepted by any doctor? I have often wondered why there is so much controversy about the VA when all you would have to do is issue a United Health Care card to vets and have them go anywhere they choose. It would have to be cheaper than maintaining a complete separate health system by the Feds. We owe you health care, so why send to to a roach infested hell hole 100 miles away when you live 5 miles from a local hospital? Looks like a no brainer to me but many Vets feel lucky to have what they have. I don't get it.

What say you?

73 posted on 09/26/2013 7:52:10 AM PDT by chuckles
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To: cuban leaf

I tend to agree with you.


74 posted on 09/26/2013 8:25:01 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: Adder

well yeah, pain relief is good


75 posted on 09/26/2013 8:33:50 AM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: knarf

I’m 65 and have been retired for three years because of the 2008 elections. In the 40 some years that I worked my a$$ off, I drew 6 weeks of unemployment, never took a dime in relief from the government, but saw my payroll deductions get sucked out of every paycheck. I now have a moderate SS check, a new medicare card(that will get used infrequently), and my yet unclaimed modest VA benefits. Any of you young punks that think “I am part of the problem” can kiss my furry a$$!

For the rest of you, write a book, work for cash, enjoy the 20 or so that you have left, and quit carping about how the government is screwing us.


76 posted on 09/26/2013 8:59:47 AM PDT by Big_Harry (--. --- -. . / --. .- .-.. -)
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To: chuckles
More'n sayin', brother .... preachin'

Amen

77 posted on 09/26/2013 9:03:40 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: Adder

a valid opine


78 posted on 09/26/2013 9:04:42 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: knarf

If you’re forced by the rising costs of premiums into Obamao/Boehner”care”, you’ll seemingly be taxed for being married:

“The third tragic outcome of Obamacare is what it will do to marriages and families. In January 2010, two months before Obamacare’s passage, the estimable Robert Rector at the Heritage Foundation gave the impact a name: the “wedding tax.””

http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-wedding-tax/?singlepage=true


79 posted on 09/26/2013 9:06:52 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: knarf

“Us” old retirees will as soon as obamacare is up and running will be magically turned into a bar of soap. The time to worry about obamacare would have been at the stopping it point. Now that it will be up and running, the time for worrying is passed. Now is the time, if you haven’t already, to make peace with your Maker.


80 posted on 09/26/2013 9:10:11 AM PDT by sport
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