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Skylar was the real baby blue (Breaking Bad) (my opinion)
October 1, 2013 | self

Posted on 10/01/2013 8:11:11 PM PDT by dennisw

Skylar with her blue eyes and final regrets and sadness is baby blue. Not Walts love for meth making. How many times did Walt use meth (never) compared to how many times he made love to Skyler? Usually urgent love making. Walt said the meth game made him feel alive but so did Skylar as his wife and sometimes nemesis. She was the sounding board for his lies. Conflicted soul mate and final beneficiary of his meth making along with the two children. Walt saying he made meth because he liked it is a cute trendy libertarian throw away line and only a part of his motivations. Of course a real man is part selfish user. But his dominant motivations were to provide for his family after he died.

"A man provides," Gus Fring said. "And he does it even when he's not appreciated, or respected, or even loved." and Walt did this

 

Badfinger----These words say more about Skylar than about stupid methamphetamine drugs

Guess I got what I deserved
Kept you waiting there too long, my love
All that time without a word
Didn't know you'd think that I'd forget or I'd regret
The special love I had for you, my baby blue

All the days became so long
Did you really think, I'd do you wrong?
Dixie, when I let you go
Thought you'd realize that I would know
I would show the special love I have for you, my baby blue

What can I do, what can I say
Except I want you by my side
How can I show you, show me the way
Don't you know the times I've tried?

[guitar solo (Joey Molland)]

Guess that's all I have to say
Except the feeling just grows stronger every day
Just one thing before I go
Take good care, baby, let me know, let it grow
The special love you have for me, my Dixie, dear.

 


TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: breakingbad

1 posted on 10/01/2013 8:11:11 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Falco’s, “It’s All Over Now, Baby Blue.”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLo5v2De8iM


2 posted on 10/01/2013 8:14:28 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: dennisw
Nope.

Baby Blue is his trademark Meth. Skylar was not the love of his life; he paid her the respect of finally telling her the truth at the end: he didn't do it for his family. That was just a rationalization for evil. He did it because he liked it. He did it because it made him feel alive. And the obvious inference is, that she did not.

3 posted on 10/01/2013 8:17:18 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine
It's Dylan's It's All Over Now, Baby Blue. Falco's is one of many covers.
4 posted on 10/01/2013 8:21:38 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: dennisw

“Usually urgent love making. Walt said the meth game made him feel alive but so did Skylar as his wife and sometimes nemesis.”

I don’t think so. When they made love urgently, it was always Heisenberg, still high on his thrill from committing criminal acts (or having the whole school wondering about him while he is right under their nose). Clearly, before that, their love life was more humdrum, because Skylar is taken aback at his behavior the first time it happens, saying he was acting like a different person.


5 posted on 10/01/2013 8:22:25 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: FredZarguna
Baby Blue is his trademark Meth. Skylar was not the love of his life; he paid her the respect of finally telling her the truth at the end: he didn't do it for his family. That was just a rationalization for evil. He did it because he liked it. He did it because it made him feel alive. And the obvious inference is, that she did not.

Those were his last lines that everything he did before contradict. So I don't give them much weight. Sure the lines were cool and rebellious and had that "I did it my way" Frank Sinatra resonance.  Don't be fooled. He did it for his family just like he professed for five seasons of Breaking Bad

6 posted on 10/01/2013 8:24:35 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: FredZarguna

Yes, I know. I just like his version.


7 posted on 10/01/2013 8:25:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Boogieman

It was his Uncertainty Principle that really thrilled him in criminal acts. He was always uncertain whether the law would catch him or not.


8 posted on 10/01/2013 8:29:29 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“Nope.
Baby Blue is his trademark Meth. Skylar was not the love of his life; he paid her the respect of finally telling her the truth at the end: he didn’t do it for his family. That was just a rationalization for evil. He did it because he liked it. He did it because it made him feel alive. And the obvious inference is, that she did not. “

Yes.

“Those were his last lines that everything he did before contradict. So I don’t give them much weight. Sure the lines were cool and rebellious and had that “I did it my way” Frank Sinatra resonance. Don’t be fooled. He did it for his family just like he professed for five seasons of Breaking Bad “

No. Walt did it for himself. He TRIED to make himself and everyone believe it was for his family. It wasn’t. It never was and never could be. Ill gotten gains.

I loved the show. I loved Walt. But, he did it for himself alone and for personal ego reaons. There is and was no argument about that.


9 posted on 10/01/2013 8:35:52 PM PDT by FAA
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To: dennisw

Walt was a ruthless child killing thug.


10 posted on 10/01/2013 8:38:02 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: dennisw

It wasn’t Skylar... even the meth . That was a tool. He felt emasculated He felt like he was going to die a smuck a weakling...a loser. When he knew he was the smartest guy in the room. So he sought a life of violence and crime ...a rush. He wanted to go out in a firestorm on his terms not societies. Not even Gods. The way he planned his last day was brilliant. I thought this season was a masterpiece in any art firm.


11 posted on 10/01/2013 8:42:45 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: dennisw

Agree. He certainly did it for the family. If his motivation was wholly selfish he wouldn’t have gone back to have a proper goodbye with Skyler. He sacrificed himself for her to make sure she was safe by taking on the nazis. No loose,ends, no threats, no question that he was the cook.


12 posted on 10/01/2013 8:48:41 PM PDT by sbMKE
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To: Blackirish

I like your take!


13 posted on 10/01/2013 8:49:43 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

One caveat yes he loved has family...that’s why on his last day he made sure they were set for life. He lived Hank. That’s why all all debts were paid. Even his own.


14 posted on 10/01/2013 8:55:08 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: dennisw

Not according to Vince Gilligan, the person who created and wrote the show. Baby Blue was the meth. The last thing Walter White did was walk through the meth lab admiring the set up he and Jessie built. The very last thing he did was touch that piece of meth equipment lovingly, marking it with his blood. He loved the power, the control and the recognition cooking the perfect meth gave him.

It cost him his wife, his children, his name, and all their futures. The son who used to adore him, now hates him and will have to live with what Walt did for the rest of his life. His baby daughter will never know him. Walter White gave up his soul for the meth and all the money he left his son won’t buy any of it back.


15 posted on 10/01/2013 9:01:45 PM PDT by Waryone
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To: Waryone

Of course baby blue was the meth. It was a means to an end. If it wasn’t meth it would have been heroin..loan sharking...hit man.


16 posted on 10/01/2013 9:06:06 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: dennisw

“Don’t be fooled. He did it for his family just like he professed for five seasons of Breaking Bad.”

Nope. He may have started out that way, but if he did do it for his family, he failed them because all they really wanted was him. He essentially abandoned his two kids by insisting on holding onto a lifestyle that gave him a thrill. That’s why the whole story is a Greek-style tragedy (with some comedy thrown in). He damaged or destroyed everyone he touched - and I’m talking about the people he professed to be doing this for!

It may have started out about making $700,000 for his family but it very quickly became about his ego. He was finally somebody, finally the best at something and recognized for it, finally in control of money, power and people rather than just being a mild-mannered, unimportant high school science teacher with a lackluster marriage to a bored wife, a mortgage, a crippled kid, and a disease that was going to beat him in the end.

It reminds me of that great scene in Bronx Tale where Robert De Niro tries to explain to his son how much tougher it is to get up everyday as a working man than it is as a gangster. Walter White was a genius. And he was an idiot who betrayed every single person he knew including himself.


17 posted on 10/01/2013 9:07:35 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: dennisw
Nope. Don't buy it for a second. Walter White is not a sympathetic character and he didn't do it for his family. He's a drug manufacturer, a murderer, and a liar.

A significant part of what the writers were trying to do is get you to buy into his pathology, because the truth is even very evil people like Hitler and Stalin are actually quite complex individuals; they are not the cartoon characters of our imagination. So too is Walter White. But ultimately he was prideful and selfish.

We are the top predators on the planet, and all of us have a tremendous capacity for violence and evil, even though we may very well love our wives and children. But our facile excuses shouldn't be taken for tuth.

18 posted on 10/01/2013 9:11:35 PM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: vladimir998

Like Michael Corleone killing his brother.


19 posted on 10/01/2013 9:12:02 PM PDT by Blackirish (Forward Comrades!!!!!!!!!)
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To: sbMKE

He went after the nazis because they reneged on their agreement to kill Jesse.


20 posted on 10/01/2013 9:42:15 PM PDT by Arthurio
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To: Arthurio

I’m glad the show is over. I got a little corrupted watching the entire thing.


21 posted on 10/01/2013 10:12:21 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (Up yours NSA !)
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To: Arthurio

I think that that was part of it, but also that they stole his money and murdered his BiL in front of him when he felt that that did not need to happen. Those events drove his rage against the nazis more than allowing Jesse to live. Just my opinion though.


22 posted on 10/01/2013 10:19:00 PM PDT by BADROTOFINGER (Life sucks. Get a helmet.)
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To: Arthurio

I don’t understand why people romanticism him. He ruined the life of every person who used his blue product.


23 posted on 10/01/2013 10:21:43 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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Did anyone think that if Walt had an adequate life insurance policy (especially since Flynn probably has ongoing medical needs, if only for new crutches every now and then), none of this would have happened? : )


24 posted on 10/01/2013 11:20:45 PM PDT by radiohead
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To: FredZarguna
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Skylar was not the love of his life ... He (Walter White) did it because he liked it. He did it because it made him feel alive. And the obvious inference is, that she (Skylar) did not.


At the tender age of 58 I've come to believe that "true romantic love" equally and passionately shared between two individuals (man and woman) is a cosmic rarity.


How many of us have a "true love of one's life" that was unrequited, and we were forced by time and reality to leave that wonderful dreamlike possibility in our past ?


Then, how many of us then "settle" for someone that outwardly attractive, kind, gracious, and that we can even develop great affection (approaching love) for ...


yet ... that "great love of one's life" remains etched on your memory, almost a part of our soul's DNA ... visiting you occassionally in the night's dreams ... calling out your name when you visit places that you shared together ?





In the end, you can't blame Skylar ... because Walt wasn't the "love of her life" either ...




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25 posted on 10/02/2013 3:40:15 AM PDT by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: FAA

He did it for himself, mostly, but he loved his family and (in his own warped way) did his best to care for them.

I think the root cause of his problems may have been sniffing phosane gas (episode 1) and all the times he fell on or otherwise slammed his head (in countless episodes)


26 posted on 10/02/2013 3:50:39 AM PDT by be-baw (still seeking)
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To: Patton@Bastogne
This kind of wound is actually intimated pretty strongly in the first season, where we see Gretchen and Walter together, his subsequently selling his share of Greymatter for some paltry sum, and the vehemency of his reaction against her offers to help.

Luckily, this did not happen to me, and at the ripe old age of 57, my wife of thirty years is "the last true love I'll ever need."

27 posted on 10/02/2013 9:48:19 AM PDT by FredZarguna (With bell, book, and candle, please.)
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To: dennisw; All

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28 posted on 10/05/2013 1:59:22 PM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: dennisw

Wow there are a lot of passive-aggressive know-nothings here.

There are no facts, only interpretations. - Nietzsche

Apparently the fellows who are SO much smarter than the original poster, who wrote off dennisw’s thesis entirely without an ounce of support, don’t understand that a song can have *multiple* meanings.

The most obvious interpretation is the blue meth. However, the lyrics also can refer to Jessie because Walt came back and saved him.

“Kept you waiting there, too long my love
All that time, without a word
Didn’t know you’d think, that I’d forget, or I’d regret
The special love I have for you
My baby blue”

Walt always had a special place in his heart for Jessie. He wanted him dead because he had betrayed him to the feds and he knew at that point it was either him or Jessie. But he never wanted him to suffer.

Walt made it right with Jessie. He wouldn’t have ended his life with so clear a smile if he hadn’t saved him; there still would have been in the back of his mind the fact that he killed his friend Jessie, and this would certainly haunt him more than any other death he contributed to. Note that Walt did NOT personally kill the innocent child in the desert, and there’s no way he would have supported it either. Anyway in the end, sure he’d be relieved he saved his family, but there would still be regret on his face if he wasn’t granted the opportunity to redeem himself with Jessie.

The Skylar interpretation is also quite apt, as Walt loved Skylar. You don’t spend your entire life raising a kid with a woman and not love her, no matter how much fighting you do. Come on, people. And Walt wasn’t “evil” - he did what he did because he was tired of living a mundane, empty life, the kind of life most of us live today in this modernized world, and if you’d like to understand why I suggest you look into Dr. Thomas Dalton’s article on Nietzsche.

Walt did it for himself but he also did it because he felt he wasn’t providing sufficiently for his family, that he had wasted his life, his potential, that his relationship with his wife and child just wasn’t what it would have been had he been filthy rich. If you think Skylar wasn’t on a very deep level disappointed in Walt and his lack of success, you don’t understand women. When Walt banged her rotten after cooking meth, it’s because he felt alive - no longer guilty that he had let his wife and kids down by living a drab life scraping by on two incomes, since he knew if he had done differently he and his family could’ve been living in a mansion like his old business partners, and his wife wouldn’t have to slave away at work either.

Skylar was upset about Walt’s new “career” mainly because it was “illegal” and she was afraid of getting caught and what effect that would have on her family. But who’s to say what’s illegal? The same ignorant people posting here who in a democracy have an equal vote, even though they don’t have sensible opinions? Whether something is illegal doesn’t make it right or wrong, and those with the will to power know that. The masses however don’t understand that the Drug War is a war for profit. There are a lot of FAR WORSE people out there, like the bankers at the Federal Reserve who manipulate your currency and steal your money through “bail outs”, and you don’t see any heat on them now do you? You don’t see vast resources spent to put them away now do you? It’s about control, an end to freedom. Wake up.

Anyway, Walt did it for himself, yes, and he did it for his family too. For real men, the two are inseparable.

Finally, there’s one more interpretation for “baby blue” - Walt’s blue-eyed daughter, the same one he realized he could barely support on his wages as a teacher, the same one he was worried he wouldn’t live to see born when he was cooking meth, basically days away from death, to give her a final nest egg and make up for his lifelong failures. That’s how the whole mess started. Remember?

I swear, those of you who think Walt was purely selfish in all this must have really eaten up all the feminist anti-father propaganda in the world. Alcohol is a far worse drug than marijuana, and which one is illegal? Why? Do you think we’re killing Muslims in the Middle East for “freedom”? Really? Do you think we’re really “free” or that there aren’t serious ulterior motives to these wars? Sheesh.

Cui bono? Who benefits?


29 posted on 10/29/2013 9:30:22 AM PDT by JHam
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To: JHam

I read all you had to say. I like your expansive take on the Breaking Bad ending. So will this be your only post at Free Republic?


30 posted on 10/30/2013 6:05:32 PM PDT by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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