Posted on 10/06/2013 3:34:32 AM PDT by lbryce
What are the ramifications of America's newly emergent status as the world's largest producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2013?
The conventional wisdom of America's preeminent status as global superpower being on the wane is a consensus difficult to deny even if one were to take the current wholly corrupt, dysfunctional, inept leadership out of the equation.
It may very well be that the US economy has been irrevocably diminished, the reality of which would certainly take a toll on America's influence and prestige world-wide. Furthermore, the government shutdown as symptom, harbinger of a looming economic disaster in the guise of a runaway profligacy as quintessential manifestation in which the Democrat party has historically ruled the Federal government, presents a herculean dilemma of which seems nearly unresolvable.
My question is, how would our status as world's largest oil and gas producer in 2013 and for argument's sake, for a an unspecified number of years affect America's political, economic well being as the world's global superpower? (albeit in diminished capacity.)
I believe that is so and I also believe that is something like what the kenyan is aiming for. I think he would rather the Sunni Saudis had the nukes but he will take what he can islamically get.
One notable ramification will be experiencing Obama's enablers credit Obama.
Now the king told the boogie men
You have to let that raga drop
The oil down the desert way
Has been shakin' to the top
The Sheik he drove his Cadillac
He went a' cruisin' down the ville
The muezzin was a' standingbr> On the radiator grille
[Chorus:]
he Shareef don't like it Rockin' the Casbah Rock the Casbah The Shareef don't like it Rockin' the Casbah
Rock the Casbah
By order of the prophet We ban that boogie sound Degenerate the faithful With that craazy Casbah sound But the Bedouin they brought out The electric camel drum The local guitar picker Got his guitar picking thumb As soon as the Shareef Had cleared the square They began to wail
[Chorus:]
Now over at the temple Oh! They really pack 'em in The in crowd say it's cool To dig this chanting thing But as the wind changed direction The temple band took five The crowd caught a wiff Of that crazy Casbah jive
[Chorus:]
The king called up his jet fighters He said you better earn your pay Drop your bombs between the minarets Down the Casbah way
As soon as the Shareef was Chauffeured outta there The jet pilots tuned to The cockpit radio blare
As soon as the Shareef was Outta their hair The jet pilots wailed
[Chorus:]
He thinks it's not kosher
Fundamentally he can't take it. You know he really hates it.
I said, It's three times the size of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima.
“But even if we don’t get involved Saudi Arabia certainly would in that scenario, and I wouldn’t discount their military capabilities in their own back yard. “
I see the Saudi military as largely decorative. It looks impressive on paper, but I suspect the House of Saud’s control would come apart if the country was under any pressure. They’ve managed to dampen down threats to the royal family’s controls so far, but it’s like holding a beach ball under water. Eventually you can’t do it any longer. Iran understands the pressure points and Saudi Arabia could erupt into the biggest yet “Arab Spring.”
Perhaps gasoline prices con get down to $1/gallon again. The prices today are outrageous.
Why is propane still so freaking expensive?
“My question is, how would our status as world’s largest oil and gas producer in 2013 and for argument’s sake, for a an unspecified number of years affect America’s political, economic well being as the world’s global superpower? (albeit in diminished capacity.)”
Now? It won’t matter because the fruits of our labor will either stay in the ground, be shipped to foreign lands for pennies on the dollar or will leak into the American energy grid.
In other words, it won’t make a dent.
With a conservative President, a Republican Senate and a Repubican house, the entire world would change for the better. We are talking about Milton’s of jobs, new businesses, and new ways to invest.
There is one fact of life that the majority of this world either doesnt get or wont recognize due to political agenda. When America is prosperous, the world benefits. When America goes full socialist, the game is over. It’s amazing what human liberty does for mankind.
“When was the last time we saw a new refinery being built here in the U.S.?”
Construction of a new refinery for diesel fuel was started in about April of this year in North Dakota, the country’s second largest crude oil producing state.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/04/10/us-usa-bakken-refinery-idUSBRE9390CA20130410
There are plans for more, with one more for certain on one of the Indian Reservations in ND. North Dakota does not have all the nut case left wing whackos trying to stop it.
The instant the Iranians got nuclear weapons—the saudis would get them. They’d simply buy them from the pakistanis. They probably already own a big interest in the paki nukes.
That’s always been the big danger of Iranian nukes. not so much the iranians themselves but rather once the iranians had the nukes they would set off an arms race that would eventually suck in most the countries in the moslem world. It would in the very least be a prestige thing.t
right now the israelis and the saudis are soto voce allies on iranian nukes, but the instant the iranians got the nuke—they would become enemies on nukes because the saudis would want them.
“When was the last time we saw a new refinery being built here in the U.S.?”
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this story has been a red herring for years. why? the refineries have the ability to add unlimited capacity to their refineries. that’s what they’ve done for decades on the gulf coast. its more cost effective to add capacity than it is to build a new refinery from scratch.
What are the ramifications of America’s newly emergent status as the world’s largest producer of petroleum and natural gas hydrocarbons in 2013?
One notable ramification will be experiencing Obama’s enablers credit Obama.
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Very true. Not only will Obama’s people take credit for it, they’ll do it despite Obama’s best efforts to kill it.
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“The instant the Iranians got nuclear weapons—the saudis would get them.”
The safest option for the west and the Muslim world would be to take Iran out of the picture before they get nukes. The Saudi’s can’t trust their own people with nukes because Islam teaches it’s okay to disobey anybody if you think your view of Islam is more righteous than theirs. No Muslim country can truly trust even their most “trusted” people with nukes because of the nature of the religion they all follow.
It is suspected that Pakistan lost some nukes and invaded the bad lands to recover them. Fortunately, they apparently have safety and security interlocks. But what are the chances others will also build in safeties in a world that is as uninterested in safety as the middle east?
EIther that, or they don't want to be on record as the first to point out such a stupid weakness...
Then, too, SunTsu: "When strong, feign weakness, when weak, feign strength."
Maybe they just don't believe we could be that stupid for real...(and despite our government, maybe we aren't. all of those regulatory hindrances could be removed within a fortnight.)
It is suspected that Pakistan lost some nukes and invaded the bad lands to recover them. Fortunately, they apparently have safety and security interlocks. But what are the chances others will also build in safeties in a world that is as uninterested in safety as the middle east?
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I recently saw an article somewhere that showed that a considerable amount of the USA intelligence budget is spent on Monitoring pakistan.
The safest option for the west and the Muslim world would be to take Iran out of the picture before they get nukes.
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not sure that I disagree with this. however, there’s a whole lot going on in the cyber world that we are not privy to. as well top iranian cyber and nuclear experts seem to have a high mortality rate.
It seems to me that the Iranians have been ready to make a nuke within the next 12 months every year for the last decade or more.
Middle East imports a large amount of grain as they can’t feed their population. Given that the U.S. has sufficient energy at reasonable costs; and, thus retains the ability to grow sufficiently plentiful crops, they may become dependent on our agriculture for survival. Depends on whether forecast and consequences for sustained cooling starting 2014 are borne out. China and Saudi are currently staging an agricultural land grab in Africa and Philippines.
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/09/08/the-climate-grain-production-relationship-quantified/
http://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2013/jul/06/water-supplies-shrinking-threat-to-food
I would think Hussein would love this. Gas will become cheaper, and he will take the credit for it.
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