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[vanity] Seeking "rule 308" rifle clarification
Vanity for clarification | 10/14/2013 | BlueFlag

Posted on 10/14/2013 7:56:14 AM PDT by Blueflag

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To: Dead Corpse

DC —

Were budget not a concern, I would go with an AR-10 AND a 700 or similar. Period.

As I work through AFOC/SHTF scenarios, I see ‘patrolling’ done with an AR-15. I may be wrong, YMMV. AR-10 more for static defense in depth.

there’s another variable - the “grey man” — where a hunting rifle form factor attracts less negative attention than an AR does. You and I know better, but... I actually do take the “grey man” factor into account here.

Good advice though, and thanks.


81 posted on 10/14/2013 10:41:02 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Blueflag
I've built my last AR-15. Putting one together for my Daughter.

Anything else I build will be .308 or larger. Going to base that first one off the DPMS receivers and finish it with my usual mix of hand-made or cobbled together parts. Have my eye on a Surgeon XL action for a .338 LM build for +1000yrd static shots. After that, time to step up to the .416 Barrett/.50 BMG leagues.

If you are worried about an LR-308 getting panned as an "evil black rifle", Duracoat it with a nice "real tree" pattern. Problem solved. Or... Try a wood furniture set for it. Looks... different. I kinda like it.


82 posted on 10/14/2013 10:51:02 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: dangerdoc

Great for the Trayvons when SHTF.


83 posted on 10/14/2013 12:45:48 PM PDT by libstripper (Asv)
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To: Blueflag

A Plain medium duplex is fine for about 95% of all shooting. Mil-Dot and other boutique reticles are fine if you want to spend more money on good glass, but the algorithms require practice.

A few makers offer scope reticles that give you several aiming points and if you spend some time on the range and use the exact same ammo, you can learn at what range those hash marks work for your load, in that given condition.

Best advice is to get as close as you can, then get ten yards closer (I forget the African PH who said that a few score years ago).

Best;


84 posted on 10/14/2013 4:35:50 PM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Vendome; thackney
This is what an M1 Garand looks like after it fails.

>P>

85 posted on 10/14/2013 4:54:40 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Eaker

That happened to me. Damn lucky I wasn’t hurt.


86 posted on 10/14/2013 4:57:05 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Eaker; thackney

That, is a Garand and someone probably put hot loads in it or a modern load that creates more pressure than it was designed to handle.

A Springfield M1A doesn’t suffer from that problem and will chew right through any ammo you feed it.


87 posted on 10/14/2013 4:57:45 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Eaker

That just makes me sad, what did you do to the little guy?


88 posted on 10/14/2013 4:58:23 PM PDT by dangerdoc (see post #6)
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To: Vendome; thackney; humblegunner
Wrong on all accounts.

Brand new rifle that had been prepped by a former Marine and using factory ammo as recommended by Springfield.

It failed on the thirteenth round. Fired the first twelve just fine.

Here is a picture of the gent who was shooting it at the time.



89 posted on 10/14/2013 5:04:55 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Antihero101607

So, can a 7.62-stamped rifle take the .308 cartridge?


90 posted on 10/14/2013 5:07:04 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: Eaker; Vendome

True story.
I was standing right there and had just fired the thing.


91 posted on 10/14/2013 5:08:03 PM PDT by humblegunner
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To: dangerdoc

The final determination was that Springfield made a sloppy rifle.

It took me a few years before I would shoot one again.


92 posted on 10/14/2013 5:10:13 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Blueflag

Love my Leupold 3-9x40’s. Waterproof. $220. Made in Oregon.


93 posted on 10/14/2013 5:57:29 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Eaker

Ouch!!!

What was the problem?


94 posted on 10/14/2013 5:58:58 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: gundog

good info. my impression was that they cost far more.


95 posted on 10/14/2013 6:16:19 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Vendome

Springfield made a run of 10,000 rifles and one of them was a piece of crap.

Just my luck.


96 posted on 10/14/2013 6:17:30 PM PDT by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Blueflag

Oh, you can bust the bank, if you like.


97 posted on 10/14/2013 6:19:54 PM PDT by gundog (Help us, Nairobi-Wan Kenobi...you're our only hope.)
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To: Blueflag

Your profile says you’re in Georgia. I’d recommend a .270 for your smaller East Coast deer. You’re not going after the heavy Muley’s at 300+ yards, are you? Why tear up so much meat by using the heavy .308 bullets?


98 posted on 10/14/2013 7:24:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- <<http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch

p.s. I can pick up a used .270 here with a decent BassPro/Cabellas scope for about $375 private sale. might do that or might not. thanks for your counsel and guidance.


99 posted on 10/14/2013 8:00:40 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: B4Ranch

p.s. I can pick up a used .270 here with a decent BassPro/Cabellas scope for about $375 private sale- folks leaving the sport or needing cash. all above board, no shaky deals. might do that or might not, but after my .308 is ready-and I am competent with it. a number of my GA deer hunting friends shhot a .270. thanks for your counsel and guidance.


100 posted on 10/14/2013 8:05:01 PM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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