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What You Need to Know About Windows 8.1
How-To Geek ^ | today

Posted on 10/18/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by McGruff

Windows 8.1 is available to everyone starting today, October 19. The latest version of Windows improves on Windows 8 in every way. It’s a big upgrade, whether you use the desktop or new touch-optimized interface.

The latest version of Windows has been dubbed “an apology” by some — it’s definitely more at home on a desktop PC than Windows 8 was. However, it also offers a more fleshed out and mature tablet experience.

See link for details.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: pressrelease; windows; windows8
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Let the Microsoft bashing begin.
1 posted on 10/18/2013 7:49:57 AM PDT by McGruff
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In summary, Windows 8.1 is what Windows 8 should have been. All of these improvements are on top of the many great desktop features, security improvements, and all-around battery life and performance optimizations that appeared in Windows 8.

If you’re still using Windows 7 and are happy with it, there’s probably no reason to race out and buy a copy of Windows 8.1 at the rather high price of $120. But, if you’re using Windows 8, it’s a big upgrade no matter what you’re doing.

If you buy a new PC and it comes with Windows 8.1, you’re getting a much more flexible and comfortable experience. If you’re holding off on buying a new computer because you don’t want Windows 8, give Windows 8.1 a try — yes, it’s different, but Microsoft has compromised on the desktop while making a lot of improvements to the new interface. You just might find that Windows 8.1 is now a worthwhile upgrade, even if you only want to use the desktop.


2 posted on 10/18/2013 7:50:26 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: McGruff; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; ...

3 posted on 10/18/2013 7:51:03 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Also How the Modern Interface is Improved in Windows 8.1
4 posted on 10/18/2013 7:52:17 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: McGruff

More bells and whistles that no one asked for and doesn’t add a lick of utility to the OS.


5 posted on 10/18/2013 7:54:36 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: ShadowAce

Anyone know if I should uninstall Classic Shell before loading 8.1?


6 posted on 10/18/2013 7:54:46 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: DAC21

I haven’t touched Windows 8. Don’t know.


7 posted on 10/18/2013 7:55:28 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: McGruff

I have 8 but have gotten used to it.

Please tell me I can simply update to 8.1 for free?

I live with 8 if I have to pay for another operating system.


8 posted on 10/18/2013 7:56:06 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: McGruff
Does this product lock up the computer like the rest of the products? I just love it when Ctrl+Alt+Delete does not work.
9 posted on 10/18/2013 7:57:58 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: DAC21

Probably should ask the Classic Shell forum if you can’t get an answer here.


10 posted on 10/18/2013 7:59:42 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: CommieCutter
I don't have Windows 8 so I can't say but

How to Get Windows 8.1

For Windows 8 users, Windows 8.1 is completely free. It will be available as a download from the Windows Store — that’s the “Store” app in the Modern, tiled interface.

Assuming upgrading to the final version will be just like upgrading to the preview version, you’ll likely see a “Get Windows 8.1″ pop-up that will take you to the Windows Store and guide you through the download process.

You’ll also be able to download ISO images of Windows 8.1, so can perform a clean install to upgrade. On any new computer, you can just install Windows 8.1 without going through Windows 8. New computers will start to ship with Windows 8.1 and boxed copies of Windows 8 will be replaced by boxed copies of Windows 8.1.

11 posted on 10/18/2013 7:59:56 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: DAC21

Version 4.0 of Classic Shell works with Windows 8.1. Install before or after updating. It works great.


12 posted on 10/18/2013 8:00:04 AM PDT by SunStar (Democrats piss me off!)
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To: McGruff

>> Let the Microsoft bashing begin.

Okay... will Microsoft be *doing* the bashing, or receiving it? :-)

But seriously, I have Win8 on a little ASUS sub-laptop with a touch screen (not my main PC, just a travel companion), and it’s a love-hate relationship. I’m hoping 8.1 fixes the stuff I hate so I can stop hatin’ on 8.


13 posted on 10/18/2013 8:00:30 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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As long as we're on the topic.

Access PC Settings Easily from Your Desktop in Windows 8 and 8.1

14 posted on 10/18/2013 8:02:43 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: McGruff
If you’re holding off on buying a new computer because you don’t want Windows 8, give Windows 8.1 a try — yes, it’s different, but Microsoft has compromised on the desktop...

Yeah, I'll come back when microsoft is interested in earning my business instead trying to compromise on something I didn't ask for and didn't want. The change from the old 3.x interface to the windows 95 desktop was a welcome change. That retarded little brother that is 8.0 and 8.1 were not. Maybe I'll come back for the Windows 9, apology for balmer's ego edition.

15 posted on 10/18/2013 8:03:40 AM PDT by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: McGruff

Thanks for the update info. I fall into group mentioned below:

“If you’re still using Windows 7 and are happy with it, there’s probably no reason to race out and buy a copy of Windows 8.1 at the rather high price of $120. But, if you’re using Windows 8, it’s a big upgrade no matter what you’re doing.”

The only problem, I have is when I do a fairly deep Google/Yahoo search on something. About 2-3 levels into the search, my screen and computer freeze up. I have to do Gate’s gift to us, the control/alt/delete and reboot.

One of our younger relatives and his wife are great with computer language, programs and solving problems. They have informed me that problem will go away, when NSA opens its Utah facility to store our searchdata, and Google/Yahoo and other internet providers get free storage space for providing our search data to NSA.


16 posted on 10/18/2013 8:08:13 AM PDT by Grampa Dave ( Get our troops out of the middle east and let Allah sort out the Islamofascist losers!)
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To: Orangedog

It is all about the sick fascination of social media, internet browsing, music/videos, and not real computing. The make my job of developing business and scientific software harder with every release of the “next big thing” having to wade through all the crap layers and security issues.


17 posted on 10/18/2013 8:08:14 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: McGruff

I am sticking with Win7 and IE9.

When I put a new hard drive in my Win7 laptop a few weeks ago, Windows auto-updated and replaced IE9 with IE10. I thought I had auto-update turned off.

Anyway, I use an old tabbed IE-based browser for FR. This browser has some editing and productivity add-ons that are no longer available and which have no comparable modern equivalents. These add-on features are more important/valuable to me than and IE upgrade.

Well, IE10 killed the add-ons. They would work with 9, so I uninstalled 10. Windows defaulted to restoring 9. I am somewhat happy again.

From XP to Win7, I lost several programs that have no modern equivalents. I managed to tweak and trick a few others into working under Win7. I doubt any of them would work under Win8.1. I have a dead Minolta b/w laser printer — dead because no one developed a Win7 64-bit driver for it. I am tired of Windows upgrades that won’t support older peripherals.

The only thing worse than a Win/IE upgrade is Firefox’s rapid release insanity.

Newer is NOT always better. Many times it is WORSE. When they think they fixed what they broke the last time, they end up breaking something else.


18 posted on 10/18/2013 8:10:06 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: McGruff

Microsoft’s motto: Change simply for the sake of change with total disregard toward actual improvement simply so that we can make even more billions. ;-)


19 posted on 10/18/2013 8:10:15 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Grampa Dave

“The only problem, I have is when I do a fairly deep Google/Yahoo search on something. About 2-3 levels into the search, my screen and computer freeze up. I have to do Gate’s gift to us, the control/alt/delete and reboot.”

My guess would be that the computer in question lacks sufficient RAM.


20 posted on 10/18/2013 8:12:29 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: McGruff

Three words: It. Still. Sucks.

Not bashing, Win 7 and XP Pro are the high-water marks for M$, is all.


21 posted on 10/18/2013 8:12:53 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: ShadowAce

!!!!ALWAYS!!!!! wait for the ‘.1’ version of anything from Microsoft

every ‘.0’ version is beta


22 posted on 10/18/2013 8:13:04 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: CommieCutter

I’m on XP and I’m comfortable with it (though I ReAlLy loved W98) ... how much of a surprise is 8 over XP ?


23 posted on 10/18/2013 8:14:55 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: Resolute Conservative

hey- its job security!


24 posted on 10/18/2013 8:15:48 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: McGruff

All I need to know about Windows 8.1 is the version number. MS never really gets it right until Service Pack #2, so I am still going to be waiting.


25 posted on 10/18/2013 8:15:51 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Grampa Dave

“I have to do Gate’s gift to us, the control/alt/delete and reboot.”

Oh, and I forgot to mention that Ctrl-Alt-Del came from an IBM geek, not Gates. ;-)


26 posted on 10/18/2013 8:16:02 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: Resolute Conservative

where do you work? I am a software engineer too and am looking for a major change-

Texas before they secede or maybe Tucson (which I think would join them)


27 posted on 10/18/2013 8:16:53 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Boogieman

Service Packs are so Windows NT era.


28 posted on 10/18/2013 8:18:27 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: knarf

Do not do 8. Do 7 at the max, and even that will confuse you for a while.


29 posted on 10/18/2013 8:19:53 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

The good old three finger solute...


30 posted on 10/18/2013 8:20:00 AM PDT by cableguymn (The founding fathers would be shooting by now..)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

Microsoft’s motto: Change simply for the sake of change with total disregard toward actual improvement simply so that we can make even more billions.

I thought that was Apple’s trademark.


31 posted on 10/18/2013 8:20:11 AM PDT by McGruff (Mitch McConnell sold his sole for a Dam project.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

MS isn’t the only software that changed for the sake of change.

Newer might be okay, except when the developers remove features or alter the functionality.

Over the years, I have dumped many a software program because the upgrade deleted some specialized features I specifically used that program for. Many of those same companies eventually went out of business.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 8:24:22 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: McGruff

That is the modern business motto in all fields.


33 posted on 10/18/2013 8:25:59 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: McGruff

Linux, the ultimate Windows Upgrade.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 8:26:03 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: McGruff

I bought a laptop about a year ago and it had Windows 8. I never figured out how to use it. I just hit the window that let me use Internet Explorer. Anyway a couple of days ago when I turned on the laptop a bunch of those little windows were missing right in the middle of the whole thing. I have no idea what happened to them. Any clues?


35 posted on 10/18/2013 8:26:36 AM PDT by Spunky
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To: McGruff

My husband’s new computer came with windows 8. I just had to reload my “new” iphone because the on/off button was faulty and Verizon replaced it. I am NOT updating anything for at least a month. I am getting sick of all this tech crap and am thinking of throwing it all in the garbage!!


36 posted on 10/18/2013 8:28:07 AM PDT by Cricket24
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To: Lazamataz

Thanx Laz ... I can’t find 7 for free and I’m told I can’t buy it either.


37 posted on 10/18/2013 8:29:29 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof .... but they're true)
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To: TomGuy; McGruff

“MS isn’t the only software that changed for the sake of change.”

Yes, I know. The same problem has haunted me, too. That is why I keep older install versions of software.

I was simply complying with McGruff’s comment about “Let the Microsoft bashing begin”! ROFL


38 posted on 10/18/2013 8:29:40 AM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: DAC21
Anyone know if I should uninstall Classic Shell before loading 8.1?

I don't know about Classic Shell, but I had Start8 on both my computers and the 8.1 upgrade went without a hitch.

39 posted on 10/18/2013 8:33:15 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: McGruff

It’s Windows. All you need to know.


40 posted on 10/18/2013 8:36:25 AM PDT by Vinnie
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To: knarf

I’m getting a new machine with 7 installed.


41 posted on 10/18/2013 8:36:52 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: knarf

Yes you can buy it.

http://www.evaluesoftware.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=213&gclid=COTj1bPboLoCFfFj7AodTjwAWQ


42 posted on 10/18/2013 8:38:16 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: McGruff

I recently upgraded my computers from XP to Win8 and then to Win8.1 and have to confess that I like it quite a bit. It certainly is speedier, has a fresher look and makes finding things easier. I highly recommend the Start8 third-party addon, $5, which makes the desktop experience just like XP.


43 posted on 10/18/2013 8:40:39 AM PDT by KevinB (A country that would elect Barack Obama president twice is no longer worth fighting for.)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

“Microsoft’s motto: Change simply for the sake of change with total disregard toward actual improvement...”

I think Yahoo subscribes to the same motto. Yahoo just changed my e-mail AGAIN, and it just gets worse and worse with every change.


44 posted on 10/18/2013 8:41:32 AM PDT by mouske
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To: knarf
I’m on XP and I’m comfortable with it (though I ReAlLy loved W98) ... how much of a surprise is 8 over XP ?

The main problem lies in the fact that a lot of people have this operating system with a traditional PC (non-touch screen). The first few days can be really, really bad. This is solely because of the redesigned start menu (a touch screen menu) and learning to shut it down. There is nothing that clues you in on how to shut it down; you have to move your cursor to the top or bottom right and it mysteriously pops out. You basically are forced to live with it. If you have a surface touch screen then 8 would be decent in this regard...I would suppose.

I've learned to live with it, and get around it. It really depends on how tech savvy you are. It became intuitive after a week or so. But if I can upgrade for free I'm going to do it. It still doesn't change the fact that it's a poor design for a traditional PC/laptop.

I think you have until April of 2014 to move on from XP because they will stop supporting it. I still use XP on my work computer and will have to get it replaced soon.

45 posted on 10/18/2013 8:43:49 AM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Orangedog

The whole notion that cellphones, tablets and PC’s need the same OS is ridiculous.


46 posted on 10/18/2013 8:44:35 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: knarf
I can’t find 7 for free and I’m told I can’t buy it either.
You can buy WIN 7 on-line from many sources. Example - Newegg has it in 32 bit or 64 bit versions for $139.
I suggest you go WIN 7 Professional which will make running older software much, much easier.
47 posted on 10/18/2013 8:44:45 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: bigbob

I like Windows 8 because of the storage spaces feature. I purchased an OEM license and installed it on an Intel 3.2 Ghz board with an 128 GB SSD for the OS which will be used as a home server. Three 3 TB drives are used for storage with room for expansion. So far the system runs great. Built in Windows Explorer seems to work fine. It took a little while for me to get used to the start screen but now it’s not an issue. File history is even good for backups.


48 posted on 10/18/2013 8:50:11 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: Wiggins

Correction to above. Built in Windows Defender seems to work fine. My mistake.


49 posted on 10/18/2013 8:52:08 AM PDT by Wiggins
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To: taxcontrol

All I have to say is....

Ubuntu


50 posted on 10/18/2013 8:54:42 AM PDT by GeronL
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