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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 42, OCTOBER 18, 2013
Free Republic | October 18, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 10/18/2013 1:07:54 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; garden; gardening; hobby
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To: miss marmelstein
I put everything in the compost pile. Weeds, dead veggies, kitchen scraps, inattentive city workers, grass clippings, weeds...

I do run my compost pile pretty hot to kill off bad bacteria.

/johnny

21 posted on 10/18/2013 1:36:29 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Those metal case lights would be a good idea. I might get me one of those as there’s a place to hang from in the corner. I see what you mean about them just hanging on though. We’ve only had 2-3 tomatoes since we moved in in Sept., but boy, oh boy, even though they weren’t quite as tasty as the hot summers ones, they were still better than anything store bought. So I hope we can get a couple few more anyway. Maybe I’ll get two (or ten!) of those metal case lights. -lol-


22 posted on 10/18/2013 1:37:37 PM PDT by mlizzy (If people spent an hour a week in Eucharistic adoration, abortion would be ended. --Mother Teresa)
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To: cripplecreek
Johnny Appleseed says: "Go for it, what can it hurt?"

/johnny (not appleseed)

23 posted on 10/18/2013 1:37:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Anyone know of some veg or edible plant to put in a shady spot? I don’t understand if glads can grow there that beans should. I figured beans would grow up to the light and be ok but apparently not. Well, not when critters eat them but still.


24 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:00 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Ha! Try to put Rinos in if you can catch them!


25 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:33 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek

Apples don’t reproduce true from seed.

What you can do is find some rootstock and/or someone who is familiar with grafting and graft some sprigs of your tree on to some appropriate rootstock.

What you may have is the rootstock itself. Since you mentioned you let it grow from the root.

IF so, then just root some cuttings next spring when it starts to bud out. Lots of places on the net that give advice/tips on that. My only added tip would be to pick a root/transplant day from the farmers almanac calendar.


26 posted on 10/18/2013 1:38:53 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: miss marmelstein

Well, here’s what I do-can’t swear that it is any good. I rip out all the old plants. Those that look diseased (cukes and tomatoes usually)I put in the burn pile.

The healthy looking stalks and stuff either get added to the compost heap or I just dig a trench in the bed throw in the plants and cover them up.

Then I either pile on a bunch of leaves on top, or plant them with winter soil improvers like winter rye or hairy vetch. In the around late Feb or March I plant red clover to turn under for green manure a few weeks before planting.


27 posted on 10/18/2013 1:40:02 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes
Hybrid apples and grafts don't reproduce true from seed.

Non-hybrid apples do great from seed. This is a non-graft, so that doesn't apply.

/johnny

28 posted on 10/18/2013 1:41:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Just mythoughts

I always feel like hibernating with a cup of hot coffe, tea, or cocoa etc once the winter comes. I hate cold weather. I try to avoid going out side at all till spring.LOL


29 posted on 10/18/2013 1:42:17 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill
Tobacco is taking the shady spots in 2014 in my garden.

/johnny

30 posted on 10/18/2013 1:42:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bgill

Miner’s lettuce, and chives grow well in the shade.


31 posted on 10/18/2013 1:45:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cripplecreek

Go for it. Get several started so that if something gets one maybe the other survives. Nothing to lose by trying.


32 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

These aren’t the apples the tree used to produce before I cut it down. The neighbor seems to think I’m getting the apples the rootstock originally produced.


33 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:16 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: JRandomFreeper; cripplecreek

http://www.gardenguides.com/91099-reproduction-apple-trees.html

Seems to be pretty thorough. Since you don’t really know what type of apple you have your best bet for reproducing that particular one seems to be grafting or just rooting some sprigs.

If you don’t know of any other apple trees nearby planting the seeds would probably work too although they might not be that *exact* variety.

It sounds like what you’ve got is a ‘rootstock’ plant though. And if you like that one enough to eat it if it were me I’d just take cuttings and root them. No need to graft on something tolerant of cold or soil diseases as that’s why things are usually grafted.

Lucky you.


34 posted on 10/18/2013 1:48:51 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

Everything I’m reading says 30% germination for apple seed is pretty standard.

I’ll plant a couple dozen. If they sprout I’ll keep a couple for myself and give the rest away.


35 posted on 10/18/2013 1:50:08 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek
If you like 'em and they eat well or ferment well, go for it.

Most fruit seeds do need a season of cold before they germinate. Some also like to be lightly scored.

Your mileage may vary, batteries not included.

/johnny

36 posted on 10/18/2013 1:50:21 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: cripplecreek
Always a good idea to plant plenty of extras. You can give away or compost any that you don't need.

/johnny

37 posted on 10/18/2013 1:52:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

You really know what you are doing. Sadly, I couldn’t even find winter rye when I looked for it several years ago...

I, mostly, keep a herb garden. Most of them come back the next year. But I’m getting rid of my tomatoes and eggplants and I usually just dump them. They get kinda nasty at this stage...


38 posted on 10/18/2013 1:52:55 PM PDT by miss marmelstein ( Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: bgill

Another item: Polk Greens. We have poke greens that grown up to 6 foot tall around one of our walnut trees. Hubby and his family love poke salad and stir fried poke with bacon grease and onions.


39 posted on 10/18/2013 1:53:41 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I started an asparagus bed this year as well. In a few years I’ll actually be able to eat.

I’ve got a couple of pear trees that produce good pears but I’ve got to cut them down because whoever planted them put them too close to my well pit. Thinking about replacing them with paw paws. (I’m a fan of natives)


40 posted on 10/18/2013 1:53:53 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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