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Riding in the new 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28, a factory-bred street racer
motoramic ^ | October 16, 2013 11:51 | Alex Lloyd

Posted on 10/21/2013 7:26:31 AM PDT by central_va

After its shock reveal at the New York auto show, the 2014 Chevy Camaro Z/28 stands as one of the most anticipated machines of the year. GM promised new heights of performance, and an unrelenting dedication to make the car worthy of its legendary name, and challenge some of the world's best. We got the chance to take a Z/28 deep dive at GM's Milford Proving Grounds, and ride shotgun in one of its development mules on the venue's test track. Is it everything that was promised?

(Excerpt) Read more at autos.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: camaro; gm
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To: angcat

I still have a 1983 Chevy shortbed truck. 305 V8. Runs strong and has paid for itself numerous times using it to haul building materials, etc.
Having said that, it cost about a quarter what a new one would cost.
And I won’t buy another government motors product.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 8:36:25 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

The Magnum was a good choice for a wagon...too bad it was only produced for 3 short years.


42 posted on 10/21/2013 8:45:43 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Jonty30

5K in 1969 is 32K today.

But a car today is driven, I don’t know; 15 years before it is scrapped. How many Pintos, Vegas, Granadas and Mavericks were still on the road 15 years later? This has to be factored in.

I have not replaced a car in 7 years. My fleet is 8, 13, 13 years old and I have no urge to replace any of it.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 9:13:13 AM PDT by cicero2k
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To: central_va

“The one on the right cost about 4,000 new.
$4,000 of 1969 dollars would be worth: $25,477.71 in 2013. So the new one is bit pricey.”

Due to the CAFE and the EPA, you are NEVER going to see a cheap musclecar ever again. When you pay 55,000 dollars(!!!!!!) for one of these, you are probably paying about 5K to pay for someone else’s Volt and about $3,000 for someone else’s Spark.


44 posted on 10/21/2013 9:16:13 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: rightwingextremist1776
The Magnum was a good choice for a wagon...too bad it was only produced for 3 short years.

Not a full-sized wagon. Only seated six, (2+2+2)
45 posted on 10/21/2013 9:16:59 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: The Antiyuppie
When you pay 55,000 dollars(!!!!!!) for one of these, you are probably paying about 5K to pay for someone else’s Volt

Not to mention a few grand for the 14.5 airbags. My '66 Dart had five fuses (hazard flashers optional). The new cars have 30 miles of wiring in them.
46 posted on 10/21/2013 9:19:12 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: central_va

Nice ride, but I wouldn’t buy one, or any vehicle built after the 1995 model year. If you worked in the auto industry in engineering or development, you would know what that date represents. As for all of the domestic bashers out there, your toyota, honda, chevy, ford, and dodge use parts that come from the same chinese factories. All you are buying is a name, nothing more. Built in the US does not exist, only “assembled” in the US, with parts from the third world.


47 posted on 10/21/2013 9:20:58 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: cicero2k

If kept in a garage and never wrecked, today’s car bodies could last a real long time. The engines will last 200K easily. Everything else will have to be replaced though. An automatic transmission is a death sentence for most cars. When they go it is 3-4K to fix. Not worth it.


48 posted on 10/21/2013 9:23:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

I have a 67 Camaro convertible I’m restoring and upgrading to the hilt. While you can buy a 500hp plus new Camaro, they weigh between 3800 and 4100 pounds versus 3200 for my convertible. My 350 HP homebuilt is quite fast enough thank you.

Plus, mine is infinitely repairable! and upgradeable! and will be on the road long after I’m dead and buried. And long after most 2014 Camaros are in the boneyard.


49 posted on 10/21/2013 9:27:25 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: DaxtonBrown

The problem with 60’s v-8’s is they get 10 mpg (if you are lucky)


50 posted on 10/21/2013 9:30:02 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Dr. Sivana
True...but you won't find a full size wagon unless you up-size to a full size SUV...
51 posted on 10/21/2013 9:34:18 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: central_va

The big trick is to replace the transmission. I’ll get 15-16 in town when I’m done with all the upgrades.

Plus, when you spreadsheet out the gas versus the repair costs and depreciation, I come out slightly better than even.


52 posted on 10/21/2013 9:34:43 AM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: central_va

Some years back a design student came up with the above concept.

I think Chevy should've gone with this instead of the design they actually used.

53 posted on 10/21/2013 9:35:21 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: central_va

It’s ugly and it’s made by thieves. I’ll never buy another UAW made car.


54 posted on 10/21/2013 9:45:17 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: DaxtonBrown

I think I would put a 90’s Fuel Injected v8 in a 60’s car....


55 posted on 10/21/2013 9:50:47 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: AAABEST

I, too, was a Chebby guy. Had a ‘51 Sedan Delivery w/TransAm front sub, 327 and a tall floor stick for the auto.

Loved it. Gone byebye. No more Chevy’s or glory for GM.


56 posted on 10/21/2013 10:13:32 AM PDT by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Once upon a time......looong, long ago, drag strips were made for the CITIZENS to “run what you brung”, before the days of commercialized competition and big bucks drivers.

Now, we are expected to sit and watch all the latest mods and fastest roundy round cars.

It ain’t the same.


57 posted on 10/21/2013 10:19:37 AM PDT by wizr (We are "one Nation, under God " or "one nation, trod under ". Keep the Faith.)
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To: Dr. Sivana

I once owned a 65 Dodge Polaris 500. It was a very good car with a high compression 383.

I lent it to a friend who ran down the battery and then hooked up his charger backwards frying the entire wiring harness.

That certainly is one car which I wish that I still owned.


58 posted on 10/21/2013 10:22:14 AM PDT by dglang
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To: rightwingextremist1776
True...but you won't find a full size wagon unless you up-size to a full size SUV...

I know, that's why we just spent $1,100 on a tune/new Fuel injector/water pump on my wife's Chevy Caprice '94 Wagon. It will just have to last us 40 more years. Unfortunately, I cannot find a true straight bench seat anymore. Not even in a pickup truck.
59 posted on 10/21/2013 10:45:57 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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To: factoryrat
If you worked in the auto industry in engineering or development, you would know what that date represents.

Okay, what does that represent, besides more computers under the hood? And does it affect cars that didn't get a major revision in that year (e.g a 1995 Buick Roadmaster vs. a 1994?)
60 posted on 10/21/2013 10:50:07 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There's no salvation in politics.)
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