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Chris Matthews: Did You Drink Three Fifths?
American Thinker ^ | 10/21/2013 | Ken Blackwell

Posted on 10/21/2013 7:56:09 AM PDT by rktman

MSNBC's erratic Hardball host, Chris Matthews, has again gone off the deep end with his nonsense talk about the Constitution's three-fifths clause. He's claiming that conservatives believe black people are, or once were, only three-fifths of a person.

Why does a group of people that always loses elections or tends to do lately, why do they call themselves American people because - do they still count blacks as three-fifths? Three-fifths of a vote?

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To: wideawake

Actual voting by slaves had nothing to do with it, though it should have.

It was completely for the purposes of representation in Congress.

If each slave counted as a full person that would give more representation, and thus larger clout when voting on slavery-related issues for the slave-holding states.

If slaves counted as zero in the census, there would have no increase in Congress for slave-holding states, and less relative clout.


41 posted on 10/21/2013 8:39:23 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rktman

The lies and accusations are just getting bigger and bigger and even the dumbest people are beginning to notice.


42 posted on 10/21/2013 8:41:30 AM PDT by McGavin999
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To: rktman

Dear Chris, take 30 seconds to check out this thing called google.


43 posted on 10/21/2013 8:47:29 AM PDT by ArcadeQuarters (Socialism is slavery.)
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To: MrB

The second part of the 3/5ths compromise was beneficial to the South. Taxation was based on state population. There was, as all Freepers know, no direct taxation on individuals. The tax was owed by the states and based on their population. The South wanted slaves counted 100% for representation and not counted at all for taxation. 3/5ths for each purpose was the eventual compromise. Also, at the time of the Convention the future of slavery was in doubt. Tobacco fields were in decline and cotton because of its troublesome seeds was not worth the effort, especially since it had to be exported to England to make any real money for the planter. Only South Carolina’s and coastal Georgia’s rice production held the promise of continued return. So slavery was in fact petering out. It was the synchronicity of two independent events, Whitney’s Gin and Slater’s water powered mill that saved slavery and tied Northern prosperity to the existence of Southern slavery.


44 posted on 10/21/2013 8:54:14 AM PDT by xkaydet65 (.You have never tasted freedom, else you would know it is purchased not with gold but with steel)
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To: rktman

The three 5ths of cheap scotch Chrissy drank last night are still talking although his brainstem is down.


45 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:03 AM PDT by februus
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To: tanknetter

Chris is lost on purpose, for a buck. A sad clown now. Even he who is wistful has to see the collapse of a once great country, built on goodness as the Constitution attests, and now heading into ruin.

How he sleeps without a pacifier, I am sure I don’t know.


46 posted on 10/21/2013 9:04:16 AM PDT by RitaOK ( VIVA CHRISTO REY / Public education is the farm team for more Marxists coming.)
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To: MrB

The problem is that they lack the intelligence to understand the truth. The end result of us waisting our best and brightest on the distant battlefields of the world.


47 posted on 10/21/2013 9:08:18 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rightwingextremist1776

I think it’s more that admitting that we’re right and they were wrong is too much for their egos to accept.


48 posted on 10/21/2013 9:09:13 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Lancey Howard
Lancey Howard said: "But it was the North that reduced the personhood of a slave to 3/5, not the South."

I would put it this way:

It was the North that reduced the representation of slave states and the South which reduced the personhood of slaves by owning them instead of setting them free as they had full power to do without loss of life. When the time came for the North to set slaves free it cost half a million lives.

49 posted on 10/21/2013 9:11:36 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: rktman

Extremist Matthews should seek counseling...he’s going right over the edge.


50 posted on 10/21/2013 9:13:17 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: MrB

None the less....stupid is what stupid does...and there are a whole lot of stupid walking around on two legs....and ya can’t fix stupid.


51 posted on 10/21/2013 9:13:26 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: rktman
the irony of where 3/5ths originated

and where we are today is pretty serendipitous

politics is not nearly as linear as freepers think nor as neat

we have ended up all over the place and conservatives are just about without a party and yes...as a Southerner I have never trusted the GOP like so many here do

democrats suck...there are none left worth pissing on and the GOP establishment is almost as big an enemy...in a way it's worse...they have used us and now betray us

if only they fought the left like they do us

52 posted on 10/21/2013 9:14:39 AM PDT by wardaddy
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To: rightwingextremist1776

It’s too bad our efforts to insulate our lives from their stupidity have been broken down.

Liberals place a very high value on “being in the same boat”.

It’s like a higher virtue for them.


53 posted on 10/21/2013 9:14:43 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rktman

You said it first, but it bears repeating, Matthews shows his ignorance of history and the Constitution every time he opens his mouth, and the people who swallow his swill are more ignorant than he is.


54 posted on 10/21/2013 9:16:34 AM PDT by pallis
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To: rlmorel
Correct.

But the assumption was that the relative size of the general population of a state roughly correlated with the relative size of the subset of the population that were qualified voters.

The subset of slaves who could vote was zero.

55 posted on 10/21/2013 9:45:50 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: JoeDetweiler

But when it came to a reckoning for tax apportionment the southern slavers didn’t want to count them at all. Like all true democrats they wanted their cake and to eat it too.


56 posted on 10/21/2013 9:53:30 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: xkaydet65

I will add a third factor, Jackson’s victory over the Creeks in the War of 1812. It opened the territories of the then Southwest to development.


57 posted on 10/21/2013 9:57:31 AM PDT by gusty
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To: wideawake

I think we are agreeing vigorously with each other!


58 posted on 10/21/2013 9:59:32 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: rlmorel
Liberals step in that hole constantly, completely misinterpreting the 3/5ths Compromise.

What makes you think it's a misinterpretation?

They know what its history is. They purposefully represent it this way to inflame and incite.

-PJ

59 posted on 10/21/2013 10:01:54 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

No, but if he is only 3/5 human, what are the other 2/5?


60 posted on 10/21/2013 10:13:57 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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