Posted on 10/24/2013 6:02:54 AM PDT by Fawn
It's really unbelievable what happened to Stella Liebeck. You just have to watch to see how the media turned on this little old lady who lived in Albuquerque. Obviously a villain, right? And at 5:00, prepare to see what the coffee actually did to her. It's not pretty. Well ... nothing in her situation was.
farenheit = fahrenheit...
The temp was at 180-190 degrees. There were hundreds of complaints of burns to McDonalds prior. The daughter pursued just medical costs after her mom went into shock, but mcd offered 800. It was the jury who came p&s awarded to 2 days of coffee sales. The judge lowered it
Well, i agree. But, what they were saying was McD set their temps at40 degrees hotter than home brewers.
Got a chuckle at the hardware store looking at hack saws. One package actually said the product posed a cutting risk.
Yea, I've heard that argument, i.e. McDonalds purposefully made the coffee very hot, so that breakfast customers would linger, THUS she was burned worse than she would have been if it was a lower temperature.
My answer to that is, "So?". If it wasn't the first cup of coffee that she had ever gotten from McDonald's then she was well aware of the temperature. Common sense dictates that ordering hot beverages in the drive-thru is a Caveat Emptor action. When the cup enters your hand, its your baby, and your responsibility.
The ideal water temperature for brewing coffee is 195-205 degrees F. The hottest temperature that unpressurized water can be at is 212F. So your case is either that we should all get subpar coffee, or that 7 deg F makes a huge difference in the severity of burns.
If someone dumps a cup of coffe on you, it is there bad, but I'm having a hard time seeing a human arm that is long enough to reach from inside McDonalds all the way to inside the woman's car.
Coffee is hot, who knew?
Well there is a cautionary notice on microwave meals that the food will be hot when removed from the microwave.
I believe part of the problem is that the Styrofoam cups are very unstable when the lids are removed.
Lemme guess... you went after the manufacturer of the hose, right?
Had more to do with her advanced age than the coffee. At that point in life we are all much more susceptible to a scalding.
Sad as it is, sometimes people have to pay for their own misjudgement.
I was managing McDonald’s when the first coffee suit really went ballistic, old woman put cup of coffee between her legs and removed lid, grandson took off quick and woman got burned. Obviously the hot coffee and McD was at fault. Only in America due we have to tell people that a cup of hot coffee is HOT, don’t put a plastic bag over your head, the desiccant package in a food bag is not food, the food coming out of your microwave will be hot. Apparently in America we are just to stupid to take personal responsibility for our actions.
She could have tripped and dropped the cup on a child. For purposes of argument. The child wouldn’t have been exposed to the hot liquid as long as she was, behind the wheel of her car, but it would have been pretty bad.
Anyway for the purposes of argument, would the hypothetical injuries to the child have been Mrs. Leebeck’s liability or McDonald’s liability?
Been there, done that. I can still smell the ozone from some of my automotive wiring shenanigans.
And yes a lot of you put coffee cups between you legs, on the dash, seat, roof and other places.
About a year ago, I sat on the couch with a cup of tea (fresh off the boil) holding it over my stomach. My husband bumped my elbow when he sat down and the whole cup spilled directly on my stomach. I couldn’t get my shirt off in time to prevent it from holding in more heat. It was exquisitely painful. Should all tea kettles have a warning on them saying that water is hot after boiling?
I know it was my own darned fault. I should have known better.
Man, I hate it when that happens!
I’ve never done anything on a car that has resulted in serious injury, but occasionally I do something really boneheaded. The one that springs to mind first is a simple oil change - I drained the old oil, changed the filter, then started putting new oil in the engine. Halfway through pouring in the first quart I noticed a nice puddle of fresh Mobil 1 forming on the driveway. Forgot to put the drain plug back in!
The other one was after changing the timing belt on my car. Started it up and almost immediately heard the most godawful rattling under the hood. Turns out I forgot to torque the bolts holding the camshaft sprockets on before I replaced the cam cover.
Why didn’t she sue the car company for not including cup holders?
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