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To: sickoflibs

Based on the level of incompetence displayed by this administration, I find it hard to believe that they could forumlate any plan that had as its goal what we are seeing now. Do I believe the goal is single-payer? Yes, they have always wanted that. Do I believe that this is the way they wanted OCare to shake out so they could get to single-payer? No. I don’t believe that because how could they possibly think that purposely creating this debaucle would cause people to trust them enough give them 100% of the healthcare system.

What I think is that they deluded themselves into believing this would be so great that when they introduced single payer, American citizens would be cheering them across the finish line. What they didn’t account for is the ineptness of government itself. That comes from the combination of arrogance and incompetence. Something politicians posses in spades. Now let’s see if once again Republicans are capable of seizing defeat from the jaws of victory.


43 posted on 10/30/2013 5:52:40 AM PDT by CityCenter (Resist Obamacare!)
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To: CityCenter; liberalh8ter; ConservativeMan55
RE :”Based on the level of incompetence displayed by this administration, I find it hard to believe that they could forumlate any plan that had as its goal what we are seeing now. Do I believe the goal is single-payer? Yes, they have always wanted that. Do I believe that this is the way they wanted OCare to shake out so they could get to single-payer? No. I don’t believe that because how could they possibly think that purposely creating this debaucle would cause people to trust them enough give them 100% of the healthcare system.”

Exactly. There are many short memories here.

This particular bill is not the one that the house progressives wanted, they wanted single payer or at least a single payer option.
They were forced to pass the Senate version of bill with some $$ changes (budget reconciliation) because they couldn't get a 60 vote in the Senate a second time.

So there is no public plan. So the personal mandate is a joke. And they are forced to defend it anyway because they own it.

And the bill is sooo massive and requires so much that a smooth rollout wasnt going to happen.

Now they are left with claiming Obama-care was really the GOP’s idea.

46 posted on 10/30/2013 6:06:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position)
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