Sebelius: 'Men Often Do Need Maternity Care'

Breitbart ^ | 10/30/2013 | John Nolte

[Rusty0604]

Ellmers: But men are required to purchase maternity coverage.

Sebelius: Well, an insurance policy has a series of benefits whether you use them or not…

Ellmers: And that is why health care premiums are increasing, because we are forcing them to buy things that they will never need. Thank you.

Sebelius: The individual policies cover families. Men often do need maternity care for their spouses and for their families, yes.

Ellmers: A single male, aged 32, does need maternity coverage. To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?

[Claud]

Exactly. I just stored up and then took a week’s vacation for 3 births. Storing up some days for #4 right now.

[lodi90]

She used the wrong example since men do help make babies. A better example would be octogenarians required by law to pay for “coverage” for prenatal care. Why would they ever need that?

The bottom line here is that Democratcare is a huge tax increase, wealth transfer and assault on the middle class. Marxists always hated the middle class the most. Nothing new here.

[Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America]

Maybe she’s right, BECAUSE MEN ARE DEFINITELY F*CKED BY OBAMACARE!

[Fightin Whitey]

To the best of your knowledge, has a man ever delivered a baby?

Will this man deliver a baby or did he just eat one?

[Vigilanteman]

You would have to remind me of that, wouldn't you? But knowing Arnold, it is entirely possible that he knocked himself up . . . don't you think?

[PLMerite]

“What about gays?”

OB/PROC ?

[Pikachu_Dad]

Are not the costs for the men plans twice the cost for the womens plans?

Why is that?

[dfwgator]

“Get In My Belly.”

But actually, he has been losing weight, I suspect by election time he will have done a Mike Huckabee-like transformation.

[polymuser]

Let me get this right...

Sebelius said “The individual policies cover families.” ?

WTF?

I mean, really, WTF?

[5thGenTexan]

Today, we don't have gender-specific plans, but do have gender-specific pricing. So, men and women pay different amounts based on which subset of the total of offered services they are likely to use. But both are covered, which means that if a man gets breast cancer (rare, but not non-existent), he is covered. But the pricing structure takes into account how rare it is for a man to get it. On the flip side, the pricing takes into account that women will not ever get prostate or testicular cancer.

And if we are getting rid of all these gender differences in insurance, why not auto insurance? Men pay WAY more until age 25.

[tacticalogic]

More expensive than cancer treatments? I think not.

The cancer treatment costs are probably higher. Malpractice insurance might be another matter, and that cost is going to get passed on to the patients.

[LibLieSlayer]

Dear LORD forgive me... I hate these people and I know that is wrong. Amen.

[Born to Conserve]

I can’t wait to hear the lawyers scream when they nationalize/socialize medical malpractice insurance.

[Rusty0604]

The plan was that women shouldn’t be charged more than men, even though they usually require more care.
But I don’t think it is fair for an individual man to be forced to pay for maternity care for himself when there is no risk that he will get pregnant, do you? If he got a women pregnant, she wouldn’t be covered under his individual plan anyway.
Why does everyone have to pay for drug abuse treatment even though an individual never does drugs?

[Secret Agent Man]

nope’it’s a fine example. the insurance is for female contraceptives, pregnancy exams, fetal ultrasounds, delivery costs, etc. no man ever uses those personally. his wife does.

same thing about women being charged for coverage for prostate exams, erectile dysfunction, testicular cancer, etc.

[Rusty0604]

If a man with an individual (not family) policy gets a woman pregnant, she would not be covered under his individual policy. She would be covered under her policy.

So everyone has to pay for those that can’t get married and plan for the possibility of a child?

[DoodleDawg]

Today, we don't have gender-specific plans, but do have gender-specific pricing. So, men and women pay different amounts based on which subset of the total of offered services they are likely to use. But both are covered, which means that if a man gets breast cancer (rare, but not non-existent), he is covered. But the pricing structure takes into account how rare it is for a man to get it. On the flip side, the pricing takes into account that women will not ever get prostate or testicular cancer.

I'm still a little unclear. Is Ellmers saying that under Obamacare men will pay the same premium as woman for the same coverage? Or will it the premium be based on odds, i.e. yes a man's policy will cover pregnancy but he probably won't need it so he pays a little less?

[Rusty0604]

That’s right. In a group policy there is risk sharing; but we are talking about individual policies here.

[Rusty0604]

“California Governor Signs Law Mandating ‘Gay Infertility’ Insurance Coverage”

http://christiannews.net/2013/10/23/california-governor-signs-law-mandating-gay-infertility-insurance-coverage/

[Mashood]

Amend the ACA to require that the Secretary of HHS enroll in Obamacare. The Secretary must have skin in the game.