Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Robbers Shot, Killed, Family Wants Murder Charges, or Something
Townhall.com ^ | 11-8-2013 | John Ransom

Posted on 11/07/2013 10:17:53 PM PST by servo1969

A private citizen armed with a gun for which he had a license, shot and killed two robbers in Reading, Pennsylvania this week.

Sooooo… OF COURSE… the families of the two dead ROBBERS want the citizen who shot and killed them charged with a CRIME.

I know, I know: The capitalized words bother me too, but I had to write it that way because, honestly, the story is just so retarded—read progressive-- that I feel compelled to use the liberal-needs font.

What crime, you ask, do the families of the dead guys want the citizen charged with? They’re really not sure, but they’ll get back to us just as soon as they consult the ACLU and the Department of Justice under Eric Holder.

Presumably the crime would be “Murder Of A Class Of People Who Might Vote For Democrats.”

And who knows? Win or lose, there might be some Obama vote pandering that can be done here.

Welcome to a Liberalville, USA where there are two classes of people: the victims and the rest of us who are expected to pay.

The two masked robbers—the alleged victims in this case-- had just exited a corner store in Reading when a concerned citizen—the alleged criminal in this case-- confronted them, and... shot 'em dead. No word yet whether the citizen was inside or outside the three point range. Good shot!

The getaway driver is now in custody.

According to police, who viewed videotape of the shooting, the citizen told the dudes with masks to stop right where they were, that he was going to call the police and that’s when a scuffle ensued.

“A brief scuffle ensued, during which the suspects pulled out their guns, [Berks County District Attorney John] Adams said,” according to local WFMZ. “The citizen then pulled out his gun, for which he had a license to carry, and shot both suspects, said Adams, who personally reviewed surveillance video of the scene.”

The result? Two dead bad guys.

“It’s not fair,” says Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina who walked into Krick’s Korner store with a gun in hand, mask on head and stole cigarettes and lottery tickets, and then promptly lost his life over his own stupidity.

What’s not fair is that it was two against one. Fortunately, in this instance, however, right made might.

"[William] had no right to lose his life over something that man could have called the police for," said Medina. "He [the citizen] took the law into his own hands and walked away scot-free."

Just as it should be.

Oh, but not in Liberalville, USA.

Because in Liberalville robbing the store with a gun and a mask should only result in a stern talking to, or at worst the arrest of the innocent civilian who stopped the robbers. Or perhaps we should just allow lottery tickets and cigarettes to be purchased on EBT cards.

From the name and the photographs it looks like the robbers were Hispanic. No word yet if they were “white” Hispanic or just Hispanic Hispanic, which of course would make a big difference in how the Justice Department under Eric Holder responds.

“How about if people just start running around here, policing the city on their own? How much worse is it going to get?" said Peter Ratel, Medina's cousin.

Yeah, it would be really terrible for the rest of us of us if law and order broke out in Reading, Pennsylvania.

Imagine cities free from crime, where the criminals were the ones who lived in fear because everyone could protect themselves.

What would that get us?

The Reaganville of the 1980s or thereabouts.

But not now, not here, not in Liberalville, USA.

"I have lived here since 1962," said Carmela Chipperfield according to WFMZ. "Things are not like it used to be. A lot of changes. This man, trying to make a living, and he gets robbed."

For the record, it sounds like Chipperfield was speaking about the store owner who was robbed of cigarettes and lottery tickets at gunpoint, and who somehow the families of the dead robbers neglected to mention in their grave concern for law and order.

Remember: This is Liberalville, USA.

The store owner is obviously just attempting to exploit the neighborhood by selling them cancer sticks and gambling tickets in a crass attempt to make more money and pay more taxes than anybody else in the neighborhood.

What a show off.

If all of this seems vaguely familiar to some of your older folks, that’s because it is. We lived in Liberalville, USA throughout the late 60s and all of the 1970s.

Back then dope was legal—or at least decriminalized-- and the dopes were in charge of everything too.

Carter, Nixon, Agnew, Mondale.

A great city like, say, New York City, was under the control of socialistic mayors and the result was rent control, an increase in violent crime, garbage strikes, police strikes, all in the delusion there wasn’t enough wealth to go around for everyone.

It made some cities, like New York, unlivable.

“History never repeat itself,” said Mark Twain. “But it rhymes.”

Today we’re just characters stuck in a bad poem penned by hippies from the Age of Aquarius.

It can’t end soon enough.

Because we know it will end badly enough, whether history repeats itself or just rhymes.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Local News; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; crime; guncontrol; occupationalhazard; pa; pennsylvania; reading; robbery; shot

(image courtesy of townhall.com)
1 posted on 11/07/2013 10:17:53 PM PST by servo1969
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Isn’t this the natural progression after Trayvon?


2 posted on 11/07/2013 10:24:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

They were turning their lives around.


3 posted on 11/07/2013 10:32:54 PM PST by Veggie Todd (I don't always talk to Obama voters, but when I do I ask for Large Fries.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

How about electrical ‘charges’, delivered through a chair with big leather straps on it?


4 posted on 11/07/2013 10:34:52 PM PST by Reaganite Republican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Rule 16 of Rightwing Club: liberals love criminals


5 posted on 11/07/2013 10:40:37 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Veggie Todd

They did turn their lives around but it was facing down


6 posted on 11/07/2013 10:41:09 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
i would asked (the parents) for $$$$ for the bullets.
..swift justice was served swiftly & hard.

7 posted on 11/07/2013 10:43:10 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

“aspiring musicians”


8 posted on 11/07/2013 10:43:56 PM PST by KneelBeforeZod (I have five dollars for each of you)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Veggie Todd

“They were turning their lives around.”

I would really like to see just once, just once where the family of someone like this stood up and say “I don’t know where my son learned how to be like he was but he didn’t learn it from me. I sorry he’s dead, it is really a tragedy but I can’t say he didn’t ask for it given his life style”

Tell me if he’d shot the store owner would that have justified him dying. When you pull a weapon on someone it is a reasonable expectation to have them pull one on you.


9 posted on 11/07/2013 10:45:06 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: max americana
"They did turn their lives around but it was facing down"

LOL!

The news story forgot to add that they were "aspiring rap stars". Or "on their way to getting a GED". Or "getting caught up with a bad crowd". Or "just trying to be a good baby daddy to their 4 kids by 3 different moms" or....

10 posted on 11/07/2013 10:47:44 PM PST by boop (I had no IDEA I'd be paying for Obamacare. I thought it would be a rich guy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Veggie Todd
Last night, the mother of the punk that set afire the strange person on the bus, Said “he was such a good child’”
11 posted on 11/07/2013 10:47:57 PM PST by Domangart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Isn’t this the natural progression after Trayvon?
your a terrible person, It's Saint Trayvon...
He was a son of pResident 0'BlahBlah...

12 posted on 11/07/2013 10:48:22 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
OOppss! I forgot the /S tags...

13 posted on 11/07/2013 10:50:39 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (who'll take tomorrow,$pend it all today;who can take your income & tax it all away..0'Blowfly can :-)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

i agree they should get something but they need to tap another well this one has been bled dry


14 posted on 11/07/2013 10:51:20 PM PST by bigheadfred
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

corrolary: liberals hate decent citizens who don’t play victim to criminals, but instead successfully defend themselves against criminal attacks.


15 posted on 11/07/2013 10:53:31 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

I don’t care if the gun was licensed or not - it was used in a lawful manner. The family needs a primer course on real justice.


16 posted on 11/07/2013 10:56:39 PM PST by scott7278 ("...I have not changed Congress and how it operates the way I would have liked..." - BHO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

William lost his life over something that man could just have given him... \Obama


17 posted on 11/07/2013 11:05:44 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana
liberals love criminals

Because they have so much in common.

18 posted on 11/07/2013 11:12:21 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Good shoot!


19 posted on 11/07/2013 11:21:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

>> liberals love criminals

Liberals are idiots.


20 posted on 11/07/2013 11:36:08 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Well, looks I was (unfortunately) correct with my post about this story when it first broke. I figured the guy would face the possibility of retribution for his actions.

BTW, the dude didn’t just open fire or whatever nonsense is being claimed. According the the reports, he told the perps to stop, and that he had called the cops. The perps attacked him and *then* the guy pulled his gun and shot them. He wasn’t acting as executioner, he was acting in defense of his life, according the story.

I’m sorry the two perps made the choices that led them to their fate. But they did make them. And the fact that they CHOSE to commit a crime, and then to attack someone trying to stop them, puts the blame squarely on their shoulders. No one else is as fault here, end of story.


21 posted on 11/08/2013 12:30:34 AM PST by DemforBush (Leave the gun, take the catnip toy.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
“It’s not fair,” says Virginia Medina, mother of 24-year-old William Medina who walked into Krick’s Korner store with a gun in hand, mask on head and stole cigarettes and lottery tickets, and then promptly lost his life over his own stupidity.

Cigarettes and lottery tickets? These guys are too stupid to be walking around. Good riddance to bad rubbish!

22 posted on 11/08/2013 1:17:32 AM PST by Rummyfan (Iraq: it's not about Iraq anymore, it's about the USA!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Secret Agent Man

Well said. But they sure as hell like to confiscate our money. What WILL they do when THAT runs out?


23 posted on 11/08/2013 2:07:24 AM PST by poobear (Socialism in the minds of the elites, is a con-game for the serfs, nothing more.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: skinkinthegrass

They need to begin charging the parents for this garbage! You want to grieve? Go ahead and grieve for your POS. But if the family starts pushing for innocent people to be charged the DA needs to come in with the threat of charges against them for harboring criminals.....no different than charging the driver of the car with crimes.


24 posted on 11/08/2013 3:35:20 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

First there was “suicide by cop”. Now there is “murder by cop”. Another story had a guy killed because his “trying to be ex” called the cops and said he owned a gun - it might open the doors for some “perfect murder” scenarios.


25 posted on 11/08/2013 4:27:15 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969; All

More Criminal Minorities wanting Special Rights to commit crime.

Great shot by the legal gun owner. There are two less criminals in the world. They’s got capped


26 posted on 11/08/2013 4:42:36 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (2014: RINO Hunting Season)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

In the liberal ‘mind’ the pieces of crap were just doing a little income ‘redistribution’ and creating a ‘fair’ playing field. After all, the evil business owner is just exploiting everyone and deserves to have his money taken.

A true marxist thinks that all the means of production should be in the hands of the government, and that there should be no private property.

At least 2 are now worm food.


27 posted on 11/08/2013 4:48:13 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Fai Mao; All

“I would really like to see just once, just once where the family of someone like this stood up and say “I don’t know where my son learned how to be like he was but he didn’t learn it from me. I sorry he’s dead, it is really a tragedy but I can’t say he didn’t ask for it given his life style””

I have posted a few of those on freerepublic. They are rare, though.


28 posted on 11/08/2013 5:16:50 AM PST by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

“No word yet whether the citizen was inside or outside the three point range.”

OK, that’s funny rahtder.


29 posted on 11/08/2013 5:18:47 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: max americana

They seem to love anything that tears down Western Culture, don’t they?


30 posted on 11/08/2013 5:19:26 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
I'm surprised the Medina woman didn't also complain that she didn't get her cigs & lotto tickets.
31 posted on 11/08/2013 5:20:32 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969

Any time a white person is killed by a black person, we are to understand it as “random” or “senseless”, when it is often neither.

Any time a black person is killed by a white person, we are to understand it as part of a pattern.

Any time a black person does something terrible to a white person, we are to understand it as the act of an individual.

Any time a white person does something terrible to a black person, we are to understand it as the act of a race.

Ain’t gonna work too much longer.


32 posted on 11/08/2013 5:21:13 AM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: servo1969
“History never repeat itself,” said Mark Twain. “But it rhymes.”

I had never heard that one before.

33 posted on 11/08/2013 6:00:45 AM PST by FatherFig1o155 ("Most bad government results from too much government." -- Thomas Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

Yeah, but for now it’s the wrongful death lawsuits by dead perps’ family members that society has to worry about.

Fortunately that’s what SYG & Good Samaritan & liability limitation statutes are there for, in those states enlightened enough to have passed them.

But sueing the perps’ parents for damages caused by gross parental incompetence is a great idea! It should be enabled after they make stupid public statements about “what a great kid he was”. If OTOH they publically disavow the evil conduct that led to his death (”I didn’t raise him to do these things”), then they might be off the hook.


34 posted on 11/08/2013 6:02:53 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Red in Blue PA

I fully support charging parents for the criminal acts of their minor children - criminal child neglect, at the least. If a child carries or uses a gun illegally, the parents need to be charged with illegal, reckless use of that gun.

I believe youth crime would significantly decline if neglectful parents spent some quality time in jail or in community service. Some would take control of their children, while others would find that having kids they don’t intend to raise carries a serious price along with the entitlement rewards. For those who refuse to take responsibility for their children, long jail times will inhibit their ability to procreate.

That said, William Medina was 24, an adult, but his momma still needs some sense beat into her.


35 posted on 11/08/2013 6:05:17 AM PST by Mister Da (The mark of a wise man is not what he knows, but what he knows he doesn't know!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson