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Quantum physics proves that there IS an afterlife, claims scientist
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 11:47 EST, 14 November 2013 | Victoria Woollaston

Posted on 11/15/2013 9:33:44 PM PST by Olog-hai

Most scientists would probably say that the concept of an afterlife is either nonsense, or at the very least unprovable. Yet one expert claims he has evidence to confirm an existence beyond the grave—and it lies in quantum physics. Professor Robert Lanza claims the theory of biocentrism teaches that death as we know it is an illusion created by our consciousness. …

Biocentrism is classed as the theory of everything and comes from the Greek for “life center”. It is the believe that life and biology are central to reality and that life creates the universe, not the other way (a)round. This suggests a person’s consciousness determines the shape and size of objects in the universe. …

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KEYWORDS: afterlife; biocentrism; faithandphilosophy; nothingprovesdabible; quantumphysics; robertlanza
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To: freedom462

WE son’t just live after our earthly part of our lives - the soul that passes back Home, existed also before we came here.
We had knowledge, before we chose this existance, that this mortal life would be subject to joy and to grief 0 that it rains ‘on the good and the bad alike.”

We knew we would be subject to illness, accidnent, tragedies as well as joy. We can, through wisdom, avoid and/or mitigate a lot of it by making wise choices and by learning how to be safer.

We can also learn how to hear and heed the ‘still small voice’ that will guide us from harm or help us through it.

But we accepted the conditions when we agreed to the challenge. But we are never really alone. He kept His promise - that He would send us ‘a comforter.’

Each one of us has that companion and we CAN learn to hear that still small voice and learn to recognize the love and help we will get if we allow it...”Ask and ye shall receive.”

He knows.
He cares.
He hears your prayers.


41 posted on 11/16/2013 12:41:23 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Olog-hai

Native Americans didn’t even have a term for death - only a recognition of passing on into the next life...


42 posted on 11/16/2013 12:44:20 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: Prospero; All

The Bible states that even Death and Hell are to be destroyed in the Lake of Fire. The Quantum guys might be onto something.

If death and Hell are some type of negative energy realities that have a degree of dimension, say they are some type of tesseract...then they may very well be “dissolvable” quantum matrixes.


43 posted on 11/16/2013 12:45:09 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: savagesusie; freedom462
Sometime, people don’t recognize the “help” they get. They may think “help” is a detriment-—but when you look back at events and reflect-—you find that some of the most horrific things that happened in your life, led to the most wonderful things.

I have a lot of experience with this very thing.

The things I thought were wonderful, nearly killed me. The things I thought were horrific, made my life so much better and meaningful.

Case in point: For many decades I was an active crack user. Somewhere along the way I got Recovery. In the process of recovering, I learned that my addiction was only a symptom of my problem -- and that problem was a spiritual sickness, a self-centeredness and self-seeking that defied all measure.

I worked on my spiritual condition, because to not do so was to return to addiction and to eventually die before my purpose had been realized... and to die in misery and pain.

Instead, by working my spiritual condition, I became other-directed, and interested in making a difference. I am a much more spiritually-fit person, and a person who actually has self-esteem, because I now do esteemable things.

The worst thing that could ever happen to me, became the impetus for a journey of great beauty.

I have NO CLUE what is good and what is bad for me, obviously. So, I try not to ask God for things to go a certain way. Instead, I try to stay focused on only asking for knowledge of His will for me and the power to carry that out.

44 posted on 11/16/2013 12:48:49 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

I think those experiences are called “blessings in disguise.”

God bless and keep you, dearest Laz, along with everyone here.


45 posted on 11/16/2013 12:51:50 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: MarMema
this is what Lanza bases his biocentrism theory on and if you can grasp it, it is simply the most amazing thing ever to become known to us as mankind

Quatam physics is indeed one of the most fascinating things. But Lanza's idea that "we" humans create the universe through expectations is simply a ridiculous tangent to ride out on from the twin slit experiment. If the universe is created by the mind, it is not our minds that create it, but that of something god-like. The universe seems to have undiscovered phenomena before we existed. Now there may well be a mechanism to which our eternal souls can interact with the brain that might be discoverable by science and may or may not be related to the paradox of the twin slits, but I am dubious about it. I note that the articles say electrons change behavior based on the "observation" of a "detector" rather than a more direct real-time person...that there is some interference that science does not understand is clear. That the interference is based on the expectations of a conscious mind is speculative.

46 posted on 11/16/2013 12:52:31 AM PST by AndyTheBear
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To: onyx

I love you Onyx.


47 posted on 11/16/2013 12:53:28 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Lazamataz

I love you too, Sugar.


48 posted on 11/16/2013 12:56:44 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: onyx

I love you more.


49 posted on 11/16/2013 12:59:33 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: AndyTheBear
Quantum physics = manifestation = ‘call a thing that is not, as though it were. and it will be’ - Jesus taught/lived quantum physics.

We are slow to learn because the earthly ego gets in the way. Our egocistical self gets in the way and hampers our real-self’s progression.

“Whatever man can conceive,
Man can achieve.”

50 posted on 11/16/2013 1:07:10 AM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: freedom462
It's not the exhaustive list you're looking for but, it's along this same line of attack:

The Physics of Christianity

and

The Physics of Immortality

I tried the first one. That stuff is over my head.

51 posted on 11/16/2013 1:32:50 AM PST by pa_dweller (Extremist tea-party-driven hostage-taking legislative arsonist without a life)
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To: freedom462
This may be of interest to everyone..it sure got my attention.

My dad died in 1973, and in 1978, I experienced a “visitation” from him, and he was not alone. A visitation is different from a dream in that you see bright colors and can smell scents and detect temperatures of the air around you, that the people involved in the visitation are very clear to you, you see much detail and you can hear yourself and them speak to you very clearly,and they have a specific message to leave with you,and then the visitation ends.

I fell asleep one nite & immediately I was sitting at a picnic table in the center of the yard of my family home in Chicago...(in reality we were living in the Chicago suburbs.) We never owned a picnic table, but here I was sitting at one non-the-less. It was a sunny, warm day, you could feel the heat from the sun upon your face and smell the warm air,and all the colors were vivid and bright. First thing I remember is looking down at the picnic table and to the left. I noticed that I couldn't see the end of the table..it went through our yard, through the fence, across the street and through the house right across from ours. I then looked to the right of the table and noticed that the table went through the back of our yard, through the fence, through the alley and through the fence and the home behind our house. I then looked down in front of me at the table & noticed how very narrow in depth this table was..it was about 10-12” wide..and I commented out out to myself that if two people placed their folded hands on the table across from one another, their hands would almost touch. And then I looked up and saw my dad sitting across from me and he was smiling. (Before he died, he was very despondent..he died at age 53 from cancer.) To his right was standing a tall man, with white hair in a dutch boy haircut down to to his earlobe, and he was wearing a white collared short sleeve dress shirt and white pants. I noticed that he was standing soo very close to my dad that this man's lower left arm was almost pressing against my dad's upper right arm,and I commented out loud that you could barely pass a piece of paper between their arms, the man was standing that close. The face of the man literally glowed, and I get the instant impression that this was my dad's guide, his Guardian Angel. And then I looked directly at my dad as he said to me, “Joan, death isn't what you think it is.” And I noticed that his lips weren’t moving as he spoke, that I could hear his words in my head,and I said out loud to myself, “wow~ my dad is speaking to me telepathically.” And then I said out loud, “well, what do I think death is??” And then the visitation was over and I woke up.

Well, five years passed after this visitation & I felt that there was more to this visitation than the words my father spoke to me. What was the message behind the symbolism behind the very, very narrow dimension of the depth of the picnic table? What was the message behind the symbolism of my not being able to see a beginning or end to the picnic table? And I couldn't’ figure it out, until one day when it come to me like a bolt of lightening. The meaning of the never ending picnic table is that when our loved ones and friends depart from us, this is permanent and never ending. The meaning of the very,very narrow depth of the picnic table,and I could hear my father's voice saying this in my head, is that “though we may be departed from you, WE ARE ALWAYS NEAR.” (I then understood that symbolism of two folded hands across from one another, and how these two hands almost touch, but not quite.”)

I told this story to my family priest and to a few psychics and they felt that this, indeed, was a visitation..it was too vivid, and the message left with me was very revealing. Nothing like this has ever happened to me before or since. I am so grateful. Thought I would share this experience with you all.

52 posted on 11/16/2013 2:15:42 AM PST by itssme
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To: maine-iac7

Yes! My wife and I often enjoy discussing the New Testament as it relates to QM.

Jesus, the master scientist, spoke of complex matters in a simple (but not always easy to understand) way.


53 posted on 11/16/2013 4:15:53 AM PST by Third Person (Welcome to Gaymerica.)
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To: AndyTheBear
And yet, every time you go home from work and greet your wife or dog, they have changed. Sub in the universe and maybe this will help.

It is easier to grasp by reading the book, but even that requires a step back from all we have been taught. The reviews on Amazon might be helpful for you as well. It is, I believe, a far more abstract concept than concrete and easier for those schooled in eastern thinking to get a handle on.

54 posted on 11/16/2013 4:38:08 AM PST by MarMema ("If Americans really wanted Obamacare, you wouldn't need a law to make them buy it." Ted Cruz)
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To: Olog-hai
I have zero video game programming experience; but I guess that the essence of an image represented by the pixels is manifested by data stored separately in tables in memory or databases (given today's hardware speeds).

We are chemical reactions and our being could well be separate from this universe of quantum particles (pixels) that are actually electromagnetic waves I believe.

If there is not existence after death none of us will ever know it.

55 posted on 11/16/2013 4:38:09 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Olog-hai

Ping to read later


56 posted on 11/16/2013 4:55:32 AM PST by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Olog-hai

Very interesting read. Thanks for the post.


57 posted on 11/16/2013 4:58:28 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic
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To: freedom462
Is there a list of the most convincing articles and write ups offering scientific proof of heaven? For various reasons I have been interested in amassing a collection of as much info as possible about attempts to proof, on a scientific level of some sort, that heaven exists and that there is an afterlife of sorts?
58 posted on 11/16/2013 5:00:55 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Olog-hai

The exquisiteness and order of the macrocosm of the universe and the microcosm of the quantum world fills me with wonder and awe.

I eagerly view the APOD and string-theory threads every day and am constantly reminded of the awesomeness of the Creator.

JMO, but I find that Science increases my faith, instead of the other way around.


59 posted on 11/16/2013 5:22:35 AM PST by left that other site (.)
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To: ottbmare

Good point!


60 posted on 11/16/2013 5:25:02 AM PST by left that other site (.)
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