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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 47 NOVEMBER 22, 2013
Free Republic | November 22, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 11/22/2013 12:40:12 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


TOPICS: Gardening
KEYWORDS: agriculture; food; gardening; hobby
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To: greeneyes

greeneyes!

Here is the St of MO; These are probably best for planting windbreaks and wildlife thickets; you can order , elderberries, persimmons, plums, and paw paws, $.40 to $.80 per seedlings usually in bundles of 10 or 25. (these are the trees with fruit; there are others.)

http://mdc.mo.gov/your-property/seedling-orders-and-planting-guide

(order form with prices)

http://extra.mdc.mo.gov/cgi-bin/mdcdevpub/apps/seedlings/search.cgi?record=all

Kansas offers Sandhill plums, American plums, elderberry, golden current, choke cherries.

http://www.kansasforests.org/index.shtml

KS order form:

http://www.kansasforests.org/documents/conservationtrees/Order%20Form.pdf

KS http://www.kansasforests.org/documents/conservationtrees/Price%20List%20for%20Trees%20Spring%202014.pdf

I think that there are better varieties of paw paws and persimmons for your orchard.

I live just over the Kansas border in a suburbe of KC. I am a frustrated gardener/orchardist!

regards!

Thanks to Pete from Shawnee Mission for the above info.


41 posted on 11/22/2013 3:10:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: bgill

Sorry to here that your weather is less than stellar. Looks like it’s up to the green house and indoor gardeners today. LOL.


42 posted on 11/22/2013 3:13:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: heartwood

Regarding cherrygal seeds—a lot of people have had problems:

www.davesgarden.com/products/gwd/c/7242/


43 posted on 11/22/2013 3:15:37 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: greeneyes

I would like to share a beautiful garden picture from the prepper thread post 47:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3091950/posts


44 posted on 11/22/2013 3:28:22 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

I ran myself completely out of Okra already.... food for thought for next years garden. I guess 3 or 4 in my navy bean recipe add up, haha.
I grew several heirloom tomato plants this year: Cherokee purples, stripers, etc. My favorites turned out to be the SunSugar cherry tomatoes and Yellow Boys. I just love the taste of the Yellow Boys, but the Old Germans have the most beautiful colors.
It’s cold here now, Think I’ll try some catfishing soon though, clear my lungs and head.


45 posted on 11/22/2013 3:34:55 PM PST by OftheOhio (never could dance but always could kata - Romeo company)
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To: Marcella

I grow great tomatoes in about 16” across plastic pots...set in front of the brick on the south side of our house....just have to make a greenhouse around them after planting out to protect from wind/cool weather in May/June... I buy plants, seeding here in W. Oregon is sometimes futile...get really good yield IF they get watered appropriately.


46 posted on 11/22/2013 3:55:18 PM PST by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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To: goodnesswins

“I grow great tomatoes in about 16” across plastic pots”

That’s exactly what I want for many veggies.


47 posted on 11/22/2013 3:58:03 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella; greeneyes

If you can find a landscaper that is nearby or will bring them to you, they can be a great source for almost straight sided containers, they only taper just enough to be stackable. They are just trash to them that they have to pay to dump. I knew a landscaper that had the motherload of containers from small to massive in his back yard, must have been a thousand of them, all stacked upside down according to size. Just a thought for you.


48 posted on 11/22/2013 3:59:57 PM PST by rightly_dividing (Phil. 4:13)
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To: greeneyes; Marcella; All

Thanks for the thread, greeneyes!

My poor Christmas cactus has been struggling along despite benign neglect. I realized today I need to repot it and give its little toes some more room!

Marcella, I sent my order today for the tromboncino squash and the Cooking Off the Grid book. Thanks for the info on both of those items.

Happy Thanksgiving, everyone!


49 posted on 11/22/2013 4:11:02 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: TEXOKIE

Glad you are getting the squash. You will read that cookbook from beginning to end because there is so much information besides recipes in there but you will also read the recipes because nothing in your fridge is used to cook any of that. She scaled down the recipe amounts also so there wouldn’t be a whole bunch of left overs since you would have no refrigeration. You can double the recipe of course if you have more people to feed than the original recipe.

The making cheese recipe is so simple and then using the peppercorns with that cheese makes a cheese that lasts days without refrigeration.

It’s just the best thing I have to make meals without power and no refrigerator.


50 posted on 11/22/2013 4:19:23 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

Not much gardening going on here in CT.

We ate possibly the last of the fresh garden ‘maters tonight in our dinner salad. I may still have a fe left, but they’re more suited for cooking then for eating. And I have a bunch of the heirlooms in the freezer. Will have to see the best way to use those.

Pulled a few baby carrots and some winter radishes for the salad. We still have some lettuce, greens, and root veggies in the garden or the pop-up greenhouses. But the growing season is over.

At least we’ll have some home grown veggies for T’day. That’s my goal every year :-)


51 posted on 11/22/2013 4:24:44 PM PST by KosmicKitty (WARNING: Hormonally crazed woman ahead!!)
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To: greeneyes
Which varieties of Tomato do you plant?

We've got a quite small circular planter, so we plant three starts only....this year we've got Cherry, Early Girl, and Roma.

Wifey always wants a Roma because she makes her own tomato juice. In the last couple of years, she's whooped up as much as eight or nine quarts from no more than three plants.

52 posted on 11/22/2013 4:47:08 PM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: greeneyes

PS - we stopped that tomato cage silliness three years ago - “Free Range” gives us four or five times the volume of fruit!


53 posted on 11/22/2013 4:48:42 PM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: OftheOhio

Sun Sugar Cherry - Haven’t heard of that one before. I’ll have to look into it. I like to have some cherries in pots to start in the late fall for indoor garden. Then start some in pots in the winter for transplant outdoors.


54 posted on 11/22/2013 5:04:25 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: rightly_dividing

That’s a good thought. We don’t have any in our town, but some of the nearby towns might. Thanks for the idea.


55 posted on 11/22/2013 5:05:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: TEXOKIE

That reminds me, I need to check our Christmas cactus. It is upstairs in the kitchen window. I have it to hubby a long time ago, and it has bloomed every Christmas, even though we keep it very confined in a small container.


56 posted on 11/22/2013 5:07:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: KosmicKitty

That’s doing good in your climate zone. I try to have something for Christmas, but probably won’t have much this year. Maybe a sweet red pepper and some basil.

I am down to my last tomatoes. 1 medium size and 3 cherries. None in the freezer or canned. This was not a good year for me with tomatoes. Going to try to plant some more in pots next year. I seem to have better yields with those.


57 posted on 11/22/2013 5:11:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I am hoping to get a sufficient crop to try to can some tomatoes as well as tomato juice one of these years. When I think Roma, I always think tomato paste which I never use.

I’ll have to rethink that now that you have talked about juice from Romas.LOL


58 posted on 11/22/2013 5:13:39 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: ErnBatavia

I don’t use much in the way of cages either. I only have one cage, and just use it to mark the space between tomatoes and peppers.

I do sometimes tie them to a stake, when they are kinda young and need a little help to stay out of the dirt when the wind blows.


59 posted on 11/22/2013 5:15:49 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

here = hear


60 posted on 11/22/2013 5:19:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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