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CRUSHING OF JAPAN MAPPED AT CAIRO PARLEY; EMPIRE WILL BE STRIPPED TO PRE-1895 STATUS (12/2/43)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 12/2/43 | C.L. Sulzberger, Milton Bracker, Drew Middleton, Ralph Parker, George F. Horne, Hanson W. Baldwin

Posted on 12/02/2013 4:30:12 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: milhist; realtime; worldwarii
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1 posted on 12/02/2013 4:30:12 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson
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2 posted on 12/02/2013 4:30:46 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
The index by author on Homer’s profile is now updated through December 31, 1943.

Principals in the War Conference Held at Cairo (page 1 photo) – 2
All-Out War Set (Sulzberger) – 3-4
Text of Cairo Document – 3
Allied War Chiefs Together in Cairo – 4
Germans Hold On (Bracker) – 5
War News Summarized – 5
Blood from the Home Front Figures in the War’s Greatest Battles (photo) – 6
A Reunion of Two Pals-In Naziland (photos) – 7
Fortresses Strike at Solingen Again (Middleton) – 8
Red Army Slowed by German Blows (Parker) – 9
Russian Fighters Said to Excel Ours – 10
Partisans Drive Nazis from Town – 10
Warships Push into New Areas to Shell Foe in Southwest Pacific – 12
1,026 Marines Lost in Tarawa Capture (Horne) – 13
Chavez Hits ‘Slur’ on Wainright [sic] Men – 13
The Admiral Inspects the Defenses that Couldn’t Stop the Marines (blurry photo) – 14
Bougainville Records First Marine War-Dog Casualty (photos) – 15
Effect of Statement (Baldwin) – 16
Morrison Upheld on Mosley Move (by Frederick Graham) – 16
The Texts of the Day’s Communiques on the War – 17-18

3 posted on 12/02/2013 4:32:07 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1943/dec1943/f02dec43.htm

Luftwaffe raid causes massive damage
Thursday, December 2, 1943 www.onwar.com

Results of the German raid on Bari [photo at link]

In Italy... Elements of the US 5th Army launch an attack on Monte Camino. The British 10th Corps and the newly arrived US 2nd Corps (General Keyes) lead the assault. The US 6th Corps advances to right. In the east, the British 8th Army captures Lanciano and Castelfrentano in its advance. During the night (December 2-3) German bombers raid Bari. An ammunition ship in the harbor is hit and explodes, sinking 18 transports of 70,000 tons and 38,000 tons of supplies.

On the Eastern Front... Soviet forces attacking, south of Kremenchug, cross the Ingulets River and move toward Znamenka.

In New Guinea... Australian forces capture Huanko on the Huon Peninsula.


4 posted on 12/02/2013 4:33:31 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.etherit.co.uk/month/thismonth/02.htm

December 2nd, 1943 (THURSDAY)

UNITED KINGDOM: Westminster: Ernest Bevin, the minister of labour, announced in the House of Commons today that men are to be conscripted to serve in the coal mines in the same way as in the armed services. By next April 30,000 men of 25 or under will be chosen by ballot from those called up, and directed into the mines. A draw will be made of a figure between 0 and 9, and those whose national service registration number ended with that figure - one recruit in ten - would be chosen.

After medical inspection, they would get four weeks training, including underground training, and then start work under supervision of experienced miners. They would not work at the coalface until they had been underground for four months.

Mr Bevin said he would not have resorted to compulsion but for reasons of “urgent national necessity”: “I have delayed compulsion to the last possible moment because I don’t like it any more than honourable members.” Asked if he had power to do this without legislation, he replied, “Oh yes! I am entitled to direct anybody anywhere.”

Coal production has fallen below 200 million tons this year and the number of miners has sunk to 700,000, despite the recall of many miners from the army.

No. 139 Squadron RAF begins operations with the Mk XX Mosquito. These aircraft are built in Canada. (22)
FRANCE: Paris: Maurice Sarraut, owner of the newspaper, La Dépêche de Toulouse and a pre-war politician hated by the right, is shot dead as he returns home. The SD connives with the Milice in the murder.

Forty six USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-17 Flying Fortresses blast submarine pens at Marseilles.

During the night of 2/3 December, 24 RAF Bomber Command aircraft drop leaflets over the country.

GERMANY: The USAAF Eighth Air Force’s VIII Bomber Command fly Mission 146: one B-17 Flying Fortress flies an Oboe test over Huls at 2139 hours dropping two 2,000 pound (907 kilogram) general purpose bombs and a photoflash bomb. Four B-17 Flying Fortresses drop 2.09 million leaflets over Bremen, Oldenburg and Hamburg.

During the night of 2/3 December, RAF Bomber Command dispatches 458 aircraft, 425 Lancasters, 18 Mosquitos and 15 Halifaxes, to continue the Battle of Berlin. There were no major diversions and the bombers took an absolutely direct route across the North Sea and the Netherlands and then on to Berlin. The Germans identify Berlin as the target 19 minutes before Zero Hour and many fighters are waiting there. Incorrectly forecast winds scatter the bomber stream, particularly on the return flight, and German fighters scored further victories here. A total of 401 aircraft bomb the target with the loss of 40 bombers, 37 Lancasters, two Halifaxes and a Mosquito, are lost, 8.7 per cent of the force. The Australian No. 460 Squadron loses five of its 25 Lancasters on this raid, including the aircraft in which two newspaper reporters are flying.. The inaccurate wind forecast causes great difficulties for the Pathfinders, who are not able to establish their positions correctly. The b ombing photographs of the Main Force suggest that the attack is scattered over a wide area of southern Berlin and the countryside south of the city. The Berlin report confirms this but adds that some useful damage is caused in the industrial areas of the eastern and western districts, with two more of the Siemens factories, a ball-bearing factory and several railway installations being badly hit. Damage elsewhere is light, only 136 buildings being destroyed. Five Mosquitos attack Bochum with three bombing the city and two hitting the Vereinigte Stahl steel plant; and one each Mosquitos hit Osnabruck and Witten.

AUSTRIA: nr. Krems: STALAG 17B: James Proakis and Ralph Lavoie attempted to escape under the cover of snow and darkness. Other POWs had tried to bribe a guard to cut the wire, but unbeknownst to Proakis and Lavoie, the other prisoners called off the escape attempt when the guard reported the attempted bribery to his superiors. When Proakis and Lavoie crawled past the wire, they suddenly found themselves under a hail of gunfire. Proakis began to run to a nearby air-raid trench but was immediately killed by machine gun fire. Lavoie crawled back toward the camp, but found his way blocked by two guards standing over him: one, with a rifle, and the other, an officer brandishing a pistol. When the officer noticed Lavoie was still alive, he repeatedly shot him in the legs, chest, and face. Kurtenbach and a few others ran up to stop the guards and demand access to the men. After a tense argument - during which the guard hit Kurtenbach in the mouth with his rifle butt - the POWs were allowed to take Ralph Lavoie to the hospital. Lavoie recovered and was repatriated in a prisoner exchange due to his wounds. The POWs were not allowed to recover the body of James Proakis until the next day. After the war, the incident was reported to the War Crimes Office under the violation of “unlawful wounding” in the Geneva Convention. (Mike Yared)

U.S.S.R.: The Russians cross the Ingulets River and advance on Znamenka.

ITALY: In the U.S. Fifth Army area, Allied aircraft and artillery pound enemy positions in preparation for Operation RAINCOAT (the assault on the Camino hill mass). Artillery concentrations are the heaviest thus far in the Italian campaign. The British X Corps continues an attack toward Calabritto but does not take it. Despite this failure, the 56th Division begins an attack on Mt. Camino from the south after nightfall. The U.S. II Corps opens an attack on the Camino hill mass from the northeast during the night of 2/3 December. The 1st Special Service Force moves against Mt. Ia Difensa, the 2d Regiment spearheading, and clears it before dawn. In the U.S. VI Corps 45th Infantry Division sector, the Germans continue a stout defense of La Bandita and positions on Hill 769. The U.S. 34th Infantry Division commits additional elements against Mt. Pantano and with great difficulty takes the second knob; Company L of the 133d Infantry Regiment gains Hill 180, on the southern slopes of Mt. Marrone, in a night attack, on 2/3 December, but the regiment is unable to gain further ground in the area after this.

The British 8th Army capture Lanciano and in V Corps area, Castelfrentano falls to New Zealand troops.

Bari: Frantic attempts are being made to conceal the inclusion in an Allied ship’s cargo of a consignment of mustard gas which is causing the deaths of dozens of troops and dock-workers after a surprise German air raid here today.

Over 100 German Ju-88 bombers hit the port during a 20 minute attack. During the attack, Duppel, the German equivalent of Window (tinfoil strips dropped from aircraft to simulate aircraft echoes and confuse ground search and night fighter radars), is used for the first time. They sink 16 ships, partially destroy four more, and set off major explosions in two ammunition ships, starting huge fires and extensive damage to the harbour, 70,000 tons of shipping is sunk with 38,000 tons of supplies. Hundreds of survivors were picked out of the harbour and taken to hospital suffering from no more than shock, exposure and burns. Or so it seemed; but within a few hours these apparently only slightly hurt men began to die. They had succumbed to the effects of mustard gas, a weapon which caused thousands of casualties in the last war and which the Allies have in the past declared too horrific to be used by decent nations. One of the ships hit in the raid, the SS JOHN HARVEY unloading at Berth 29, was carrying a top-secret US consignment of 2,000 deadly M47-A1 mustard gas bombs, ( brought in case the Germans resort to chemical warfare) and guarded by a unit of the 701st Chemical Maintenance Company. The ship explodes and the blast wave caused by the explosion destroys or sinks seventeen ships in the harbour and kills or injures over 1,000 military personnel, civilian workers and nearby residents of the town. As ship after ship explodes or catches fire, hundreds of men are struggling in the oil covered water in a desperate attempt to escape. The Americans will spare no effort in covering the incident up.

Most of the dead and injured were stricken by gas escaping from the John Harvey as they swam through the water. Many more deaths from the effects of gas are expected.

The Canadian-owned, British-registered merchantman SS Fort Athabasca (7,132 GRT), loaded with ammunition and, when fires broke out after the ship was struck, 44 men out of her crew of 56 are killed. With the Allied hospitals filling up with injured, the doctors are at a loss to know what caused the terrible burns on the victims. Of the 617 men who made it to hospital, 83 die during the first month. If the doctors had known at the time it was mustard gas, it possible many more lives could have been saved with the proper treatment. The Allies immediately clamp a tight security blanket over the whole affair and it is not until five years later that the public learns the whole truth.

USAAF Twelfth Air Force B-25 Mitchells, A-20 Havocs, and RAF light bombers support ground forces in the Monte Trocchio area, and other B-25s, A-20s, and RAF and South African airplanes support ground forces near Sant’ Ambrogio; more B-25s hit bridge and approaches near Chieti; fighters strafe trucks and trains while fighter-bombers blast gun positions along the U.S. Fifth and British Eighth Army fronts. .

Thirty seven USAAF Fifteenth Air Force B-24 Liberators, with fighter escort, bomb the town area, railroad bridge and marshalling yard at Bolzano while B-26 Marauders achieve excellent results in a raid on a bridge south of Orvieto and the marshalling yard at Arezzo.

During the night of 2/3 December, 11 RAF Bombers of No. 205 (Heavy Bomber) Group bomb Arezzo marshalling yard.

YUGOSLAVIA: German forces begin a major operation against the partisan army of Marshal Josip Broz Tito, Commander in Chief Yugoslav Liberation Army.

USAAF Twelfth Air Force fighter-bombers hit harbors and shipping along the coast at or near Omis, Drvenicki, Trogir, Vrbnik, and Ston.

CHINA: Eighteen Japanese bombers and 30 “Zeke” fighters (Mitsubishi A6M, Navy Type 0 Carrier Fighters) attack Suichwan Airfield. Nine USAAF Fourteenth Air Force P-40s intercept, shooting down one Japanese and two P-40s are lost;. Six P-40s on armed reconnaissance bomb villages between Sha Nyao and Chiao Tou Chieh; 16 others bomb Japanese positions northeast of Changte.

COMMONWEALTH OF THE PHILIPPINES: USN submarine USS Narwhal (SS-167) lands ammunition and stores, and evacuates certain people from Mindanao.

NEW GUINEA: In Northeast New Guinea, over 50 USAAF Fifth Air Force B-25 Mitchells attack the Borgen Bay area; 20 B-25s and B-26 Marauders hit Japanese forces in the Finschhafen area; and the Sio area is bombed by two B-24 Liberators.

SOLOMON ISLANDS: On Bougainville, over 20 USAAF Thirteenth Air Force B-25 Mitchells hit Malai and attack positions on the Porror River and Rigu Mission at Kieta; over 20 B-24 Liberators bomb Korovo and fighter patrols strafe the Chabai area.

CANADA: Frigate HMCS Victoriaville laid down Levis, Province of Quebec.

U.S.A.: Fifteen atomic scientists, including the Soviet spy Klaus Fuchs, arrive from Britain to join the atomic research project.

Washington, D.C., the Combined Chiefs of Staff (CCS) authorize the Allied Expeditionary Air Force to attack “sky sites” in the Pas de Calais area and on the Cherbourg Peninsula in France, which RAF photography and British intelligence have virtually identified as Fieseler Fi 103 (V-1) missile-launching sites.
Submarine USS Capitaine laid down.

Destroyer escorts USS Ulvert M Moore and William Seiverling laid down.


5 posted on 12/02/2013 4:35:27 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Rough adjustment for inflation of that $200 air fare would come out to about $2,699.95 70 years later. While coach is somewhat cheaper today, he seems to be describing business class. If you subtract out the taxes and fees, he wasn’t very far off.


6 posted on 12/02/2013 4:55:25 AM PST by PAR35
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December 2, 1943:


"Rabbi Stephen S. Wise (left) converses with U.S. Representative Sol Bloom of New York during a hearing of the House Foreign Relations Committee.
Wise's tireless efforts on behalf of European Jewry brought little relief for his persecuted brethren.
At this December 1943 hearing, Rabbi Wise reiterated a six-point program that he had introduced eight months earlier at the Bermuda Conference.
Those points called upon Britain to open Palestine to Jewish immigration.
British opposition prevented the idea from ever being seriously considered."



7 posted on 12/02/2013 5:42:25 AM PST by BroJoeK (a little historical perspective....)
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Thanks, Homer. Great read. Don’t miss the filler items on page 4 concerning Taft’s comments on the sending of 50,000 Roosevelt buttons to the Arabs and another noting that Cairo had run out of Scotch Whiskey upon Churchill’s arrival (wearing a ten gallon hat . . .). You can’t make this stuff up.


8 posted on 12/02/2013 6:12:29 AM PST by Charlemagne on the Fox
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. . . Taft’s comments on the sending of 50,000 Roosevelt buttons to the Arabs . . .

"Does it have any message such as 're-elect to a fourth term' on it?" [Senator Bridges asked]

"There is a message in Arabic but I don't know what is says," Mr. Taft answered.

Ha.

9 posted on 12/02/2013 6:24:04 AM PST by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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It’s pretty obvious where the Red Army has put it’s emphasis.


10 posted on 12/02/2013 6:27:12 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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This is pretty amazing. http://www.oldsaltblog.com/2012/05/the-irony-of-the-ss-john-harvey-deadly-mustard-gas-and-lifesaving-chemotherapy/
“Hundreds of survivors were picked out of the harbour and taken to hospital suffering from no more than shock, exposure and burns. Or so it seemed; but within a few hours these apparently only slightly hurt men began to die. They had succumbed to the effects of mustard gas, a weapon which caused thousands of casualties in the last war and which the Allies have in the past declared too horrific to be used by decent nations. One of the ships hit in the raid, the SS JOHN HARVEY unloading at Berth 29, was carrying a top-secret US consignment of 2,000 deadly M47-A1 mustard gas bombs, ( brought in case the Germans resort to chemical warfare) and guarded by a unit of the 701st Chemical Maintenance Company.”
11 posted on 12/02/2013 7:10:01 AM PST by freefdny
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lol


12 posted on 12/02/2013 8:55:21 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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I wonder if any American brass heads were rolled as a result of the German’s surprise on Bari?


13 posted on 12/02/2013 9:32:44 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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There are a number of interesting articles today. One thing in that p10 article about Col. Elliot Cutler's experience in Russia was his citing 2,000 Bolsheviks controlling 300,000,000 million Russians. I knew the Bolsheviks were a relatively small well organized minority but I suspect a 1917 figure of 2,000 was too low.
14 posted on 12/02/2013 9:45:00 AM PST by fso301
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I thought that was a very interesting article. You know Dr. Cutler got the “guided tour.” He was accurate that the average Russian soldier was a harder fighter than the average American. At least in the sense that the average Russian would probably have been more reckless with his life than the American. On the other hand, as Stalin himself said: “It takes a brave man to not be a hero in the Red Army.”

As for the figure of 2,000 Bolsheviks, that figure was probably correct in 1917, but had certainly increased by 1921. That expansion was necessary to take over and run the former tsarist empire. But in rapidly expanding the Party, they no doubt let in a number of people who were not up to Lenin’s rigid ideological and pathological standards. This was one reason for Stalin’s purges.

I’m not sure how many “card carrying Communists” were in the Party by this time of the war. Bravery at the front and the recommendation of a politruk were virtual guarantees of party admission by this time. And a large number of soldiers were signing up. So the Party rolls were probably quite fat by this time, again, not all of them up to Lenin’s standards. Many of the soldiers are applying for Party membership for one reason; Party members next of kin were notified of when killed in action. Non-Party soldiers’ deaths were not even recorded accurately.


15 posted on 12/02/2013 11:10:37 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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You know Dr. Cutler got the “guided tour.”

Yep. I didn't get a sense from the article that he visted any of the areas that German soldiers reported the Russians as not retrieving their wounded from the battlefield.

He was accurate that the average Russian soldier was a harder fighter than the average American.

I've read than on a number of occasions from German veterans.

At least in the sense that the average Russian would probably have been more reckless with his life than the American. On the other hand, as Stalin himself said: “It takes a brave man to not be a hero in the Red Army.”

The Americans had no Order No. 277 either. Although, I have read here and there of harsh measures being used on Bataan to maintain discipline.

As for the figure of 2,000 Bolsheviks, that figure was probably correct in 1917

2k in 1917? Wow! I always knew of the Bolsheviks as being a well organized minority but I never would have expected that they were that few in number.

I’m not sure how many “card carrying Communists” were in the Party by this time of the war.

Probably fewer than were in western intelligentsia.

16 posted on 12/02/2013 2:27:33 PM PST by fso301
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It seems even in the 1940's Harvard was enamored with the Soviets.

I also see today that at least some in Congress are still pushing for Kimmel and Short to be court-martialed.

17 posted on 12/03/2013 1:17:44 PM PST by colorado tanker
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