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Turbos Beat Displacement In Police Testing
The Truth About Cars ^ | 12/28/2013 | Jack Baruth

Posted on 12/18/2013 1:58:28 PM PST by nascarnation

It’s the kind of thing that makes you want to join the dark (blue) side. Every year, the Los Angeles Sheriff’s Department runs the newest crop of donut-holders around Fontana Speedway. With no significantly new entries available, it’s no surprise that the results are fundamentally the same as they were last year.

I’m not exactly sure what the justification is for using lap times to rank police vehicles, but we live in an era where police get to do pretty much whatever they want. Why not run ‘em around a track? Some of the significant laptimes:

Ford (Taurus) Police Interceptor: 81.25 seconds Chevrolet Caprice PPV 6.0 (355hp tune): 81.97 seconds Dodge Charger HEMI AWD: 82.19 seconds Ford (Explorer) Police Interceptor: 85.58 seconds Chevrolet Tahoe PPV: 91.71 seconds

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TOPICS: Business/Economy
KEYWORDS: automobile; lasheriff; police; turbo
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To: nascarnation

I didn’t see any specs or rankings for the Plymouth, Fury III?


21 posted on 12/18/2013 2:40:23 PM PST by G Larry
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To: Squantos

For civilian use, a turbo ‘T’ motor is the only way to go. For cops, you have a point about susceptibility to abuse. I don’t know how a turbo would fare under ‘cop’ conditions. Probably not so well and yes, expensive to replace.


22 posted on 12/18/2013 2:44:16 PM PST by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Dead Corpse

No expert here but this is what I know. Turbo’s only start to spin up at a certain RPM. If you are idling or accelerating normally you will get the fuel economy of the smaller engine. If you get the revs up you get the power of the forced air. Using recirculating valves and other methods car makers have figured out how to limit the lag. Only down side is that turbo’s are expensive to repair/replace and generally more complicated than naturally aspirated engines.

That all said, the V6 in my 08’ Caddy has more power AND better gas mileage than the turbo’d 4 cylinder in an 06’ Mazdaspeed6 I owned before it. And the Caddy is a couple hundred pounds heavier.


23 posted on 12/18/2013 2:53:24 PM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Dead Corpse

3.5L Eccoboost Ford engine 365HP

Turbo is a toy. Yes, it will go fast, and yes, Ford appears to have brought some serious reliability to turbo systems... but they still require more maintenance, and repairs are significantly more expensive.


24 posted on 12/18/2013 3:00:02 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: nascarnation

And do you know WHY they use Mustangs and Camaros?

Precisely BECAUSE there is no room for transporting detainees in the back.

They take no prisoners.

“If you run, boy, you just gonna die tired!”

At the inquiry, the question came up, “Why were there 56 bullet wounds in the deceased?”

“That was all the ammunition we had, your Honor.”


25 posted on 12/18/2013 3:02:49 PM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

I’m not so sure I agree... The new “multi-displacement” engines with the variable valve timing do an amazing job of economizing fuel use.

I have a ‘13 Ram 1500 with the HEMI - if I drive conservatively, I can get mixed-driving milage pushing 18mpg. Straight highway 22+. That’s right there with the F150 with an eccoboost engine and its turbo.


26 posted on 12/18/2013 3:04:48 PM PST by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: nascarnation

Generally lap times are rolling start. Couple warm up laps, then best times out of the high speed laps, then a cool down.

90 MPH average in a ‘sedan’ is quite good. I don’t know that course very well as I was an east coast racer, but on most any race courses there are curves that take you down well under 40 MPH.

I have ‘thousands’ of laps under my belt at Road Atlanta in F-production and would love to have hit a 90mph average. I was in a 4 cylinder ...


27 posted on 12/18/2013 3:14:28 PM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: nascarnation
my turbo MR2 on a racetrack

There is a walk around showing what the car is, and a session on lapping day chasing Corvettes and a Porsche. 131 MPH in 4th with 1000 RPM to go when I ran out of straightaway.

I can flog the car without mercy for 20 minute sessions. Gets 32 MPG at highway speed.

I did all the fabrication and tuning myself.

28 posted on 12/18/2013 3:39:47 PM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Small point, but cops are civilians also, even though they like to think of themselves as paras.


29 posted on 12/18/2013 3:44:01 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: nascarnation

I’m thinking about the Mad Max, supercharged ride.


30 posted on 12/18/2013 3:44:54 PM PST by PhiloBedo (You gotta roll with the punches and get with what's real.)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

Oops. Search youtube for MR2_HPR, it comes right up. I need to go to the sandbox for remedial HTML.


31 posted on 12/18/2013 3:51:46 PM PST by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: RandallFlagg

You can shut the gate on this one, Maxie... it’s the duck’s guts!

She sucks nitro... with Phase 4 heads! 600 horsepower through the wheels! She’s meanness set to music and the bitch is born to run!


32 posted on 12/18/2013 3:56:23 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Big Torque Rules...

The turbo’s push as much air as a 440 at a given RPM. The new V8’s have to get the RPM’s up to push that much air.


33 posted on 12/18/2013 3:58:26 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Bryanw92
my Mustang GT

How about posting a picture of it on your home page?

34 posted on 12/18/2013 3:59:19 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Miss Muffit suffered from arachnophobia.....)
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To: nascarnation
I’m not exactly sure what the justification is for using lap times to rank police vehicles ...

Think "because we have a hovercraft." [with or without eels]

35 posted on 12/18/2013 4:33:43 PM PST by NonValueAdded (It's not the penalty, it's the lack of coverage on 1 Jan. Think about it.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

>>How about posting a picture of it on your home page?

It’s just a plain-jane Sterling Gray GT right now. Once I decide on what kind of stripes I want and I get them installed, then I’ll be ready to post pictures.


36 posted on 12/18/2013 5:35:17 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: nascarnation

I’m a Whipple super-charged, fuel injected, big block kind of guy. Turbo’s always seemed like a goofy idea to me, but some folks swear by them.

If you can get it to produce the numbers, well... Good for you.


37 posted on 12/18/2013 5:40:56 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Venturer

Redline anything too long and it’ll die.

Turbo’s used to char the oil used to lubricate their bearing due to the exhaust heat pumping through them. Wasn’t sure if they’d fixed that yet or not...


38 posted on 12/18/2013 5:42:16 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: thackney

With the right gearing, you can tow a cruiseliner with a tricycle...


39 posted on 12/18/2013 5:43:26 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: TheBattman

Kinda what I expected. Everything seems to cost more these days.


40 posted on 12/18/2013 5:44:15 PM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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